Still kind of flabbergasted that Sony didn't give a date or a cut off point so consumers would be in the know.
I read through this thread and I just don't understand how anyone can defend this shit. Like at all. How can you be allowed to purchase something, and something because it is a code no one will refund you and have it not work?
Like I don't give a shit if it will work in a months time or whatever, if i buy something I expect it to work or I want a refund.
If Sony had intentions of doing this why did they not remove all codes from stores and put out a press release with a date this would happen? If it's a big why is there no communication on this?
People give these things as gifts and I'm sure that people that are not clued in to gaming forums would have no fucking idea about any of this and feel like they have been burnt. Poor retail workers probably getting shit put on them and no one knows what's up. Seriously what a shit show
Like I don't give a shit if it will work in a months time or whatever, if i buy something I expect it to work or I want a refund.
If Sony had intentions of doing this why did they not remove all codes from stores and put out a press release with a date this would happen? If it's a big why is there no communication on this?
People give these things as gifts and I'm sure that people that are not clued in to gaming forums would have no fucking idea about any of this and feel like they have been burnt. Poor retail workers probably getting shit put on them and no one knows what's up. Seriously what a shit show
I'm pretty sure if your subscription lapses you can buy another year.
People have stated that even though their sub has expired it still won't let them redeem.
It's an absolute shit show. They should have had a date planned months ago with retailers to pull cards and put a press release out for people to know that after x date until the new launch they wouldn't work.
But the price of the service is unchanged?
EDIT: Actually, I read the tiers wrong it's not the same I think. This is awkward for sure lol
A previous poster mentioned that Sony might want to let it go until Friday just before end of business- the typical dumping ground for bad news that might upset your customers. Which sounds about right to me.
It really reeks of this, which is the same type of scammy contempt for the consumer that we saw when they left a $70 Horizon: FW on the PS Store even though the $60 version had a free upgrade. I bet some Sony executive is laughing to themself about all the gullible losers they were able to get to buy full-price PS+ codes and lock themselves into the PS ecosystem for years.
At this point, if Sony doesn't say anything by tomorrow, I'm starting to think they're going allow this to be a big 'fuck you' to their customers and just hope it blows over without any acknowledgement of the issue.
Don't forget the moment they got massive PS NOW subs from those who knew about the trick weeks ago, they suddenly decided to eradicate the majority of the long permanent and most important games to our big surprise, as the pretext to màe room for other games, yet by that they sliced the number of overall streamed games, in this case streamed onlyPS3 games which will make the premium tiers even less attractive by now. Do yeah, they got a flood of PS NOW subs secured, then blocked the access to it, and in no time they made PS NOW useless when they got more subs while when they barely had anyone using it they had more games. The irony. This scummier than other mischiefs they did before.
Edit: I forgot something I am still bitter at. The fact they offered many PS4 versions only of games through PS Plus and and did not offer their PS5 versions or blocked any upgrade from PS4 to PS5 version like with FF7F so many like me were forced not to claim he games but after months they decided to make the PS Plus version upgradable without any further notice the month they offered which angered those who were forced not to claim it. So it is always a loss when it comes to many PS Plus offers or deals or ideas.
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What would have been the plan for all those PS+ codes out in the wild anyway?
If they became Essential, you'd need to explain that, and even then, what happens if you have a Premium sub and try to extend it with an old Plus code after the change?
If they became Essential, you'd need to explain that, and even then, what happens if you have a Premium sub and try to extend it with an old Plus code after the change?
For those people the only option is to let the PSN autorenew the subscription paying full price (which is a no go for PS+) when you can get discounted cards anywhere.
Not saying people won't be able to get those games, it's just that they will be stuck with full price when much probably their cards will be unlocked again the following month.
Sony's gone on record numerous times in its feeling on trying to directly compete with Game Pass or otherwise (in Sony's outlook) devalue its big games. I don't think it's too outlandish to think Sony isn't completely sold on operating a loss leader product right now, especially given how recently Sony's commented on its feelings about the sustainability of Game Pass. Sony has specifically said that something like this could impact the quality of its games, and it's not difficult to parse the fact that Sony's fears could be exacerbated by the fact that people are paying less than expected to gain access to the new services tiers than expected.
How in the hell can anyone defend this lol, wtf.
Sony obviously can't figure out how they want to handle current subscriptions to the new services. This isn't rocket science, something they should have nailed down a long time ago and communicated to everyone in a clear way. Preventing people from using codes they spent money on is gross and illegal.
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This is the most perplexing thing. I thought they'd be out in front of this by now.
Find a code, a 3 month one would take you past the transition to the new service if you want whatever ps+ you have to convert to premium. Codes are HTF/overpriced in many regions.
You can get one year of PS+ at a discount from one of the online sources, which converts to Essential. Premium you'd presumably have to pay whatever upgrade fee they have for it at the time.
Yes, the cycle that never ends. The fact that Sony hasn't still given any official message about the ongoing situations is horrible. The lack of communication is almost worst that a company (even a multi-billion company) can do to their customers, especially as we speak about the products (PS+ codes) which many have bought, but can't be used like earlier.
Just communicate, Sony! Don't do shady actions behind your customers' back and leave them confused and angry! It shouldn't be harder than that. Do what you will, but inform it clearly and beforehand.
Funny I was thinking this exact same thing.
SIE must have a broken governance structure and/or is run by idiots, because situations like this should not happen.
Probably bin them.
I personally wouldn't buy any cards for a service that is announced to be ending imminently but I've been burnt a lot in the past with gift cards etc for stores that are closing that aren't honoured.
HMV being the notable one.
So I'm on the side that believes that the stacking block is intentional on the part of Sony. However, one curious thing I noticed is this. A month and a half ago I wasn't sure if my PS Now sub was set to auto-renew. I went to my web browser on my Mac and checked my Subscriptions Management on the Playstation Store and it didn't even list my PS Now, only PS Plus. Yesterday it started showing my PS Now on the Subscriptions Management list. So there is a small chance they are doing some sort of changes there that have caused this issue. But I still don't think so.
Confirmed Blocked - Conversion Rates to new Sub Tiers later this year
They updated the page. As we feared.
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I have a PlayStation Plus or PlayStation Now 1-month, 3-month or 12-month membership voucher. What will happen if I redeem it before the new PlayStation Plus service launches?
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If you do not have an active membership:
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They updated the page. As we feared.
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Yeah, fuck Sony. It's an exclusive machine now. This should have been in the blog to begin with.They updated the page. As we feared.
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I have a PlayStation Plus or PlayStation Now 1-month, 3-month or 12-month membership voucher. What will happen if I redeem it before the new PlayStation Plus service launches?
If you do not have an active membership:
- If you are not a current member of the service the voucher is for, you can redeem your voucher using PS4, PS5, Web and Mobile App. Click here for instructions. If you join PlayStation Plus and still have an active membership when the new PlayStation Plus service launches, you will transition into PlayStation Plus Essential. If you join PlayStation Now and still have an active membership when the new PlayStation Plus service launches, you will automatically migrate to the PlayStation Plus Premium.
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If you are an existing customer:
- The PlayStation Plus voucher you redeem will provide you access to PlayStation Plus Essential for the length of time denoted on your original voucher. For example, a one-month PlayStation Plus voucher will provide access to one month of PlayStation Plus Essential.
- The PlayStation Now voucher you redeem will provide you access to PlayStation Plus Premium for the length of time equivalent to the monetary value of your original voucher. For example, a one-month PlayStation Now voucher will provide access to approximately 3 weeks of PlayStation Plus Premium. See conversion chart here for details.
- The PlayStation Plus or PlayStation Now voucher you redeem will be converted to a length of time on your current PlayStation Plus membership plan equivalent to the monetary value of the voucher you are redeeming. For example, a 1-month PlayStation Plus voucher will provide access to approximately 3 weeks of PlayStation Plus Extra or approximately 2.5 weeks of PlayStation Plus Premium. See conversion chart here for details.
This isn't useful for me, I don't think but to clarify, if anyone here is on monthly, they could cancel now, wait until it expires and then stack vouchers, right? Well, presumably at that point you can stack for a maximum of only the longest voucher you could find?
So, annoying, but maybe some people can get 12-18 months cheap.
Now expires in July, plus at the start of June before premium launches. I'll be able to stack 1 year of plus to make it premium since its before premium launches right?
Also cannot believe Sony are actually pulling this shit. My plus hasn't lapsed since igc on ps3 but apparently it'll have to.
Also cannot believe Sony are actually pulling this shit. My plus hasn't lapsed since igc on ps3 but apparently it'll have to.
Yeah you will be able to.
I don't understand how this will all end up being legal.
lol bozos
My PS+ is ending in august and they're putting in more work in stopping people trying to subscribe to their mystery service than trying to actually sell it to anyone.
My PS+ is ending in august and they're putting in more work in stopping people trying to subscribe to their mystery service than trying to actually sell it to anyone.
They deserve to get dragged for this. They should have communicated it before actually disabling anything and leaving paying customers fucked. They went about this in the worst way possible.They updated the page. As we feared.
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I have a PlayStation Plus or PlayStation Now 1-month, 3-month or 12-month membership voucher. What will happen if I redeem it before the new PlayStation Plus service launches?
If you do not have an active membership:
- If you are not a current member of the service the voucher is for, you can redeem your voucher using PS4, PS5, Web and Mobile App. Click here for instructions. If you join PlayStation Plus and still have an active membership when the new PlayStation Plus service launches, you will transition into PlayStation Plus Essential. If you join PlayStation Now and still have an active membership when the new PlayStation Plus service launches, you will automatically migrate to the PlayStation Plus Premium.
- If you currently have a PlayStation Plus or PlayStation Now membership, due to changes we are making to the service prior to launch, you won't be able to redeem a voucher code for that service until your existing membership expires and deactivates, or after the new PlayStation Plus service launches in your area, whichever happens first. Rest assured that your voucher code is still valid. See next question for further information.
If you are an existing customer:
- The PlayStation Plus voucher you redeem will provide you access to PlayStation Plus Essential for the length of time denoted on your original voucher. For example, a one-month PlayStation Plus voucher will provide access to one month of PlayStation Plus Essential.
- The PlayStation Now voucher you redeem will provide you access to PlayStation Plus Premium for the length of time equivalent to the monetary value of your original voucher. For example, a one-month PlayStation Now voucher will provide access to approximately 3 weeks of PlayStation Plus Premium. See conversion chart here for details.
- The PlayStation Plus or PlayStation Now voucher you redeem will be converted to a length of time on your current PlayStation Plus membership plan equivalent to the monetary value of the voucher you are redeeming. For example, a 1-month PlayStation Plus voucher will provide access to approximately 3 weeks of PlayStation Plus Extra or approximately 2.5 weeks of PlayStation Plus Premium. See conversion chart here for details.
They couldn't have had that info in the original e-mail? I was never interested in PS Now, and only grabbed a couple of months to take advantage of the conversion on the slim off-chance there is something more appealing about the service down the line - and now the 12 month Plus subscription I bought is only good for 6 months? I'd rather it tack 12 months of Essential on at the tail end of my current sub rather than this, I couldn't complain about that - I'd just be getting what I paid for.
