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Sony Interactive Entertainment developing a new kind of game cartridge (UP: Likely for Toio device)

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Yurinka

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Looking at the OP (connector in the bottom) it seems to be just a USB pendrive.

Maybe it's a way to sell their games in a more compact or cheaper way than in these 100+ GB bluray for PS5.

It seems to have this hole that reminds me of the cards (not cartridges) they use to sell digital games, PS+ or PS credit. So maybe they want to have a way to sell retail games in a more compact way than in boxed discs.
 
Rosebud

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Japan is all mobile/portable gaming now so I don't blame them, but I was betting in a streaming only device.
 

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Would be sweet to see a unique cartridge and new cases for the PS5.

Portable gaming is still a profitable area that they need to take seriously considering the market size. But it would have to be a portable system that would allow you to take your PS5 games on the go without limiting the power and quality of the base PS5 console, otherwise its completely pointless.
 
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I would do terrible things for a portable TLoU.
 
Shin-Ra

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I'm not sure where this idea that equivalent capacity flash storage is cheaper than optical media (mass-produced ROM) comes from.
 
Doskoi Panda

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Cartridges just make sense. If Sony can make em cheap then they'd be so much better than Blu Ray disks for home consoles. I'd love for them to pave the way for faster loading times and smaller consoles.

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Not sure why you're surprised. The forum is a Nintendo hive. Obnoxious doesn't even begin to describe the level of discourse around here.
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You haven't been paying much attention since this site opened if you think Nintendo is the standout preference here on Era. Reflecting the market situation rn, PlayStation has always been ERA's favorite machine, for better or worse, and if you haven't seen that, well, it's not hard to imagine why, lol. Talking about obnoxious when you used to waltz into crossplay threads just to say "lol nobody gives a FUCK about this"... doesn't leave you with much room to point fingers.
 
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Braaier

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Solid said:
Cartridges just make sense. If Sony can make em cheap then they'd be so much better than Blu Ray disks for home consoles.


You're high as fuck.
Or you just haven't been paying much attention since this site opened if you think Nintendo is the standout preference here on Era.
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Why would they be better than bluray? Bluray is cheaper, has more storage and the next ps will need a bluray drive for movies. Bluray sounds much better for them
 
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Kyoufu said:
PS5 is gonna be called PSV isn't it
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It wont stay dead.
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Braaier said:
Why would they be better than bluray? Bluray is cheaper, has more storage and the next ps will need a bluray drive for movies. Bluray sounds much better for them
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Cartridges enable much faster load times and much smaller form factors. I forgot about movies though, lmao
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Yeah movies is a good point. But Sony also didn't include a UHD Bluray in the pro, so... even though it seems unlikely they woiodnt include a disk drive, part of me wouldn't be surprised to see no optical drive if they chose cartridges.

Like people keep saying, the future is digital. We are also potentially getting streaming only consoles next gen as a second option and xbox is already releasing a discless console soon.

Was the max storage of UHD Blurays? Would a cartridge cost more to manufacture?
 
Doskoi Panda

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Braaier said:
Games are typically installed on the hard drive so load times aren't that important. The next ps should have an ssd standard
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that would be nice. I wrote off SSDs in consoles a long time ago bc we always just end up with slow cheap hdds in our consoles anyway, maybe we'll see that next generation.
 
Kyoufu

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Obviously cartridges won't replace Blu Ray just because of this patent. Sony recently released 128GB BDXL which I think is far more likely to be used for next-gen games.
 
Braaier

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CG Amor said:
Yeah movies is a good point. But Sony also didn't include a UHD Bluray in the pro, so... even though it seems unlikely they woiodnt include a disk drive, part of me wouldn't be surprised to see no optical drive if they chose cartridges.

Like people keep saying, the future is digital. We are also potentially getting streaming only consoles next gen as a second option and xbox is already releasing a discless console soon.

Was the max storage of UHD Blurays? Would a cartridge cost more to manufacture?
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A uhd bluray should I expect cost a lot less than a cartridge. Switch cartridges are significantly more expensive than a standard bluray disc. A uhd bluray I would not expect to be much more expensive than a standard disc
 
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IllumiNate said:
Why would that bother you? lol if you don't want it portable then keep it connected to your TV... How is choice a bad thing?
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Because portable means it will be underpowered which means it will not be a generational leap. It also means the next generation VR devices will be worse of too because horsepower is super important there. I care more about these things then being able to play for a few minutes during commute. I suspect millions of people buy a playstation for that reason.

I do not care for Handheld gaming and gloing hybrid will have severe tradeoffs.
 
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Toriko said:
Because portable means it will be underpowered which means it will not be a generational leap. It also means the next generation VR devices will be worse of too because horsepower is super important there. I care more about these things then being able to play for a few minutes during commute. I suspect millions of people buy a playstation for that reason.

I do not care for Handheld gaming and gloing hybrid will have severe tradeoffs.
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Braaier said:
Games are typically installed on the hard drive so load times aren't that important. The next ps should have an ssd standard
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Yeah, the only real advantages for solid state now are those that benefit portable devices (durability, footprint, energy draw, no moving parts). As long as you're making a stationary box that goes nowhere else you might as well use optical.
 
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NateDrake said:
This really doesn't need to mean anything relating to the PS line of product.

SIE has a patent out for the reconstruction of a 3D human.

https://patents.google.com/patent/G...e=Sony+Interactive+Entertainment+Inc&sort=new
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btw, it's not just patent, they have implementation in Sony Xperia phones


though, it's indeed weird that they applied this patent under SIE name. That technology was developed by other Sony division.

edit: on second thought, by reading those docs, seems like it's much more complex system, not just AR.
 
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Oh look, another proprietary format Sony will try to force on the market...

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There were different brands of Mindiscs, both the discs themself and the players. I know that both JVC and Panasonic produced their own Minidisc player. It was not a proprietary format in the sense like PS1 and PS2 memory cards, that only had one usage for one device. Which memory solution were used by other in the PS1 and pre-PS2 era by the way?
 
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CognitiveAtrophy said:
Not sure why you're surprised. The forum is a Nintendo hive. Obnoxious doesn't even begin to describe the level of discourse around here.
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These kind of people are the worst and what I've learned is just to put them on ignore and not deal with them period. But that goes for any extreme side on this site so I would just see it as it goes.
 
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