PS5 Sales Will "Gradually Decline", Sony Expects; PS Business Model Has "Significantly" Changed Since PS4
Sony expects PS5 sales to gradually decline as the console has entered the second half of its console cycle.
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Sony says the PlayStation business model for consumers has shifted to playtime & engagement (Which Sony wants to take advantage of)
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Yeah their live service games are coming, we will have more than five within two years.
Same. That said it's an industry problem and not a Sony problem.
Edit: yooo I wanted to edit my previous message, turns out the mobile app can open both the editing box and the new message box at the same time?!
That makes sense.
Raw hardware sales metrics are becoming less relevant with time.
The article also mentions that software attach rates used to be the measurement of platform engagement. That metric is also losing relevance with subscriptions and live service titles dominating the industry.
Raw hardware sales metrics are becoming less relevant with time.
The article also mentions that software attach rates used to be the measurement of platform engagement. That metric is also losing relevance with subscriptions and live service titles dominating the industry.
We really need a thumbs up system on this forum, for this post alone.
The reality is a lot of casual's are just playing one to two games all the time and that's it. Makes sense to make GAAS's that you can just update every so often. It's why they planned 12 and were looking for just a few hits.
In a few years it'll just be Mario and Fortnite. Joking, but sometimes it does feel like it.
In a few years it'll just be Mario and Fortnite. Joking, but sometimes it does feel like it.
Sony is shifting? They already started during the PS4 gen with the huge amount of open world games they released and the other 20-30 hours long AAA titles lol
Damn....it does read that way.
And this.
That's great Sony. Keep copying the failing platform instead of the super profitable one. You idiots
I don't think the headline is what it actually says? Looks more like that instead of just focusing on selling consoles and basically restarting from 0 at each generation, now the community is there between generations and that keeping them playing is more important than just selling more consoles.
Sony is citing their first party offerings driving platform engagement and profits.
Sony is actively betting on their studios. That's the sort of bet I want to see.
They aren't betting on an unproven subscription model and publisher acquisitions to drive engagement.
But yes, driving engagement within their user base is the path to increasing their profits. This makes sense. Folks who spend their time actively on the system are going to buy games, subscriptions, and add on content. All of which are profitable ventures for PlayStation.
They're doing what they did during the PS4, as explicitly said in their slides.
PSN is king basically, not really a new thing or surprising, but definitely think stuff like console gens will just be a thing of the past for the most part now. Like a PS5 will be a low end option eventually, instead of "last gen".
Yep, decline was already announced and totally natural after peak year(18m is also a nice soft decline imo).
Increasing engagement sounds like the same problem gaas games can have in other much bigger spaces(mobile and Pc), people time aren't infinite andmany gaas will compete for people attention and time. People will not have time for other softwares and with a limited audience eventually other gaas games will be ignored.
The player base problem its been addressed by pc initiative already, but the gaas nature is to lock players time and money for multiple years, this means will be easy for players to see the benefit to play those games on pc rather than ps5 imo(if they make you pay for online of course, but I'm not sure if offline gaas exists honestly:)).
Increasing engagement sounds like the same problem gaas games can have in other much bigger spaces(mobile and Pc), people time aren't infinite andmany gaas will compete for people attention and time. People will not have time for other softwares and with a limited audience eventually other gaas games will be ignored.
The player base problem its been addressed by pc initiative already, but the gaas nature is to lock players time and money for multiple years, this means will be easy for players to see the benefit to play those games on pc rather than ps5 imo(if they make you pay for online of course, but I'm not sure if offline gaas exists honestly:)).
Almost reads like they will continue the longer cross gen period each new generation.
I think this was expected with the longer dev times.
What do people expect when the financials in the industry look as they do.
They are devastated.
They are devastated.
they are just saying that they will have to expand efforts in order to help with better engagement considering they know that the reason why PS4-PS5 transition did so well is mainly due to how seamless it all was, they will ofc try to keep those customers engaged. It doesn't mean "BOOM SINGLE PLAYER GAMES don't matter, we are all in on GaaS".
Man there really is this air of almost, I dunno desperation almost, to have Everyone follow Xbox. It's wild
I see this sentiment repeated a lot on this site. Do the people that say this even play Ubisoft open world games? Can you really not tell the difference?
This seems weird? I'd figure things like playtime & engagement are already key metrics for practically any gaming company (platform operator, publisher etc).
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