Sony's Jim Ryan: We had to make changes to deliver our PlayStation 5 dream
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Feels like they're just continuing towards 2 types of games: massive highly processed single AAAA game campaigns of which there are about 3 per year, and courting a bazillion indie publishers. "quality and quantity". The problem is, if you don't like 3rd or first person action adventure shooters, but you DO want to play AAAA quality titles, you won't get it with Playstation anymore. All their AAAA games are different flavors of the same game: visual splendor, kill or be killed action, illusion of openness, and set-piece moments (usually just cinema or QTE). The "emotion story" of the games are the same. PS4 got a couple truly fresh titles in No Mans Sky and Last Guardian, but one was really just an indie and the other was 1 gen too late. Dreams is a strong idea but it's just a dev studio with little to play at a pro level of polish and tons of work to create something worth playing, plus it will probably officially launch beside PS5 now. 3rd parties are bringing some freshness but my PC can play these portably and probably other devices via streaming soon.
Bottom line, I'm a PS4 day 1 buyer who was let down by the new Playstation and may not be around for PS5 unless they can deliver a couple ground breaking exclusives that are NOT cut from the same cloth they have been using for the last 3 years.
Bottom line, I'm a PS4 day 1 buyer who was let down by the new Playstation and may not be around for PS5 unless they can deliver a couple ground breaking exclusives that are NOT cut from the same cloth they have been using for the last 3 years.
I can't wait for a journalist to claim that the Decima engine was created by Kojima and Co and not Guerrilla, lol.
So we just going with the MS pretentious marking name of AAAA now? Its a stupid term.
To you're point they arent just because you continuall ignore the titles that sony puts out that arent in the AAA space doesnt meant they arent making them. I have a quite a few of them and once i pick up VR this month i'll have even more.
For those of us for whom VR isn't really a possibility, though, the number of titles that Sony's putting out that don't fit into the Critically Acclaimed Sony Formula has definitely contracted considerably. They're certainly serving their primary macro-niche extremely well, but they don't have a LOT of options for people who want something outside of it.
I'm really curious how this all falls together. When I was in Europe the PS brand had a very different "feel" based on what was marketted (Singstar and FIFA). Curious if you can deliver a single message across the board without needing to significantly water down the brand differences across regions.
Well, if not American than the second biggest potential market, China. Not sure that's a win there.
The INDUSTRY HAS CONTRACTED. Asking sony to put out as many games as before is disingenuous when literally nobody can put out as many games as before. There are still plenty of titles without VR but you're choosing to ignore them.
This guy doesnt even remember how many PSones theyve sold.
Probably because he doesnt think anyone cares about that library.
Yeah, after the launch window and first years passed, PS4 really signaled that Sony was going to be primarily about huge blockbusters.
The Vita was shuttered early, and PSVR is where most of the smaller projects are, which is still new tech.
I guess they're hoping indies will fill the vacuum left where the Starhawks, Twisted Metals, and Vib Ribbons used to be.
Probably because he doesnt think anyone cares about that library.
Yeah, after the launch window and first years passed, PS4 really signaled that Sony was going to be primarily about huge blockbusters.
The Vita was shuttered early, and PSVR is where most of the smaller projects are, which is still new tech.
I guess they're hoping indies will fill the vacuum left where the Starhawks, Twisted Metals, and Vib Ribbons used to be.
Yup. Unfortunately indies really aren't good at filling the kinds of niches that used to make Playstation consoles so appealing. They're more making the PS platform feel more like PC sans mods than anything else.
agreed. I'm a huge Sony 1st party fan and I think they had enough underperforming games during PS3, that they're just going to stick to big Naughty Dog-esque games.
Whenever a Concrete Genie exists, it doesn't seem to be prioritized enough.
Was WiLD ever cancelled?
I'm not sure. I think Michel Ancel said it was still being worked on a while back but as far as public showings go, it's been a couple years.
No, Ancel has repeatedly said that it's still in development. But he's splitting his time between it and BG&E2, plus Wild Sheep is a small studio. Some of us think that it's been moved to the PS5.
I dunno about that regional marketing thing. Yeah its great to tailor marketing to region where appropriate but thinking ff7 is a japanese segmented thing where most of se priority lies global seems misplaced somehow. Dont make things too segmented
They do seem to have the best VR platform in terms of library depth and price point, plus the experiences are fresh, if a bit short. This could be their best angle for me on PS5; affordable full wireless VR and 2nd gen VR games with greater depth and better execution. I never bit on PSVR due to all the wires and other hardware weaknesses. Maybe this BF I'll take a look if they have a headset only option (I have 2 Moves). As for 'AAAA' I don't know what else to say. They're spending a lot more on a lot fewer titles.
Glad he's giving us some clarity on the direction they're heading.
Also: wouldn't be a Jim Ryan thread without people bringing up that out-of-context BC quote.
Also: wouldn't be a Jim Ryan thread without people bringing up that out-of-context BC quote.
No matter how many times the context is pointed out, certain people are still sticking with the notion they prefer.
Really hope that turns out to be true. Sony absolutely must embrace their history, they've got a lot of great content there.
I saw this video last night and thought it was excellent.
Ben Hanson is already putting in some good work over at MinnMax.
Ben Hanson is already putting in some good work over at MinnMax.
I don't know, I just saw japan live action ad for CoD Modern Warfare, seems like Sony still do regional marketing. I mean yeah FF7 got that 15 minute advert that probably will stay in Japan, but I'm sure they will still market it heavily globally as well
It's notable that with the exception of Layden and House, the people that he mentioned as leaving weren't there when Sony launched the PS3 and then managed to turn things around. They joined during or after the transition to the PS4. So shakeups and new looks at the company aren't necessarily new.
This post is pretty funny considering Death Stranding is launching right now
Eh. Death Stranding, for all its weirdness, is still an open world third person adventure game with a huge budget. Just because it's a shooter where you're encouraged not to shoot people doesn't change the fact it is still a shooter.
That comment about wanting to transition PS4 owners to PS5 faster than ever been done before sounds like more than just PS4 backwards compatibility to me.
They aren't. Social media made people leaving or changing positions out to be some new spectacular thing.
They aren't. Social media made people leaving or changing positions out to be some new spectacular thing.
If you place a PS5 next to a PS4 it will devour it and gain its strength.
Very optimistic with the messaging. The ship is in the right hands for the ever changing industry.
I don't believe in some hyperbolic statements which overblow the situation. I feel more optimistic than ever especially with how Sony has handled this upcoming transition to PS5 and how they're cleverly unveiling it piece by piece.
I don't believe in some hyperbolic statements which overblow the situation. I feel more optimistic than ever especially with how Sony has handled this upcoming transition to PS5 and how they're cleverly unveiling it piece by piece.
If you told someone that Death Stranding was a shooter, and then they went and bought it, is there any way that they don't end up being disappointed in the game? Yes, you can certainly shooter in it, but that's not the heart of the game. And when you use that term to describe game, it immediately makes them think of a certain type of game, and that's just now what DS is. That poster was replying to someone that views No Man's Sky and TLG as fresh titles, there's no way that DS doesn't fit in with those two games in terms of how different it feels compared to pretty much any other game.
That's like calling Uncharted or TLoU a shooter.
Don't we usually use that label for...FPS? Or games with military themes?
Like I wouldn't call Recore a shooter, even tho shooting is heavily used in it.
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In my book, if the primary combat loop involves aiming a gun at things and shooting them, it's a shooter. So yes, Uncharted is a shooter. The term isn't inherently a bad thing - it's just a descriptor.
It's more just that when you're sick to death of holding L2 to aim a gun and tapping R2 to shoot things in their weak points, games like Death Stranding really aren't going to move the needle for you in a good way, especially when they're wrapped up in the same open world drudgery as most modern AAA games but with the banal part dialed up to Super Saiyan 4.
God dammit I just lol'd so hard in my office.
Don't let his charming good looks fool you, this man is ruthless to the core.
Death standing is right in line with everything I said. It's a narrative driven 3rd person action adventure game, like every other major PS title.
I am actually one of the people that agrees with his bc comments. Like I don't understand why so many folk want to go back to ps1 and ps2 games on a current console.
However though I did accumulate so many games during the ps3 era digitally and on ps4 and then for them to disappear also on the ps5 seems a bit messed up.
So suddenly my tune changed lmao.
Anyway a good read. We will have to see the execution obviously. There was still a lot of FUD after Layden's departure and there probably still is? This one interview is a first step surely.
However though I did accumulate so many games during the ps3 era digitally and on ps4 and then for them to disappear also on the ps5 seems a bit messed up.
So suddenly my tune changed lmao.
Anyway a good read. We will have to see the execution obviously. There was still a lot of FUD after Layden's departure and there probably still is? This one interview is a first step surely.
Oh yes, tell us who would be a better fit for the job, oh wise one!
I guess we will see how this business transition effects the transition into a new gen.
In this day an age all that matters is the quality of the product, news of products spread like wildfire.
In this day an age all that matters is the quality of the product, news of products spread like wildfire.
Oh please. You can reduce anything to fit that silly classification if you wanted. This and your previous post reeks of:
