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Sony's PS4 exclusive Horizon: Zero Dawn is coming to PC this year, sources tell Kotaku.
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If first party games are now getting PC releases it's obvious everything could and likely will come to PC from their other studios. Why would you stop with just HZD? You don't. It's going to be everything. Just like when Rockstar doesn't talk about a PC release but everyone knows it's coming sooner than later. Same thing now applies to Sony first party games.
Sony made PS5 a lot less compelling/kind of pointless if you're really in to games like I assume anyone I reply to on here is. They clearly see PC as a big part of their future.
Of course. Although Sony may have similar concepts to MS, I expect them to implement it differently that's consistent with their overall business strategy.
You wonder if this was one of the bigger disagreement's shawn layden had with higher ups? I think it's fine to offer both, but i do believe I would rather have a tiered release so the developers can concentrate on one specific hardware spec, then later go all out and add features/DLC to a PC version.
I feel having it day one on PC hurts their sales for hardware, and I mean that in the sense they are looking at a potential customer to buy VR. Unless they make PSVR or PSVR2 available to work on pc?
Then things will get really interesting?
I feel having it day one on PC hurts their sales for hardware, and I mean that in the sense they are looking at a potential customer to buy VR. Unless they make PSVR or PSVR2 available to work on pc?
Then things will get really interesting?
I like Shawn and don't like Jim Ryan so this is my head canon.
It's presumptuous to assume this is going extend to PS5 games in any significant way.
Porting last gen heavy hitters to PC is a lucrative endeavor that won't negatively impact next gen hardware sales. When you consider they'll already be doing the leg work to "Remaster" a lot of these games on PS5, most likely as free updates to those who own the PS4 versions, it actually makes a lot of sense to port some to PC storefronts. It'll essentially replace their old remaster business.
Porting last gen heavy hitters to PC is a lucrative endeavor that won't negatively impact next gen hardware sales. When you consider they'll already be doing the leg work to "Remaster" a lot of these games on PS5, most likely as free updates to those who own the PS4 versions, it actually makes a lot of sense to port some to PC storefronts. It'll essentially replace their old remaster business.
Go to your grocery store and check the freezers. You'll find stuff like this for example:
See, what this restaurant realizes is that they make more money selling their food in a different format than they do by saying "you must go to our restaurant to eat this food." Do they make more off of you in the restaurant? Yep. But they recognize that, of these two groups of people:
1) people who would eat in the restaurant who will now just buy the food to make at home
2) people who would not eat at the restaurant who will buy the food to make at home
The second group's profit is more than the first group's loss.
Same principle here. It's an incredibly outdated view that PC gamers (and mobile ones too, for that matter) are just a different shade of console gamers. They are unique markets, with muuuuuuuch less overlap than traditionalists think.
It is pretty impressive that ever since Jim took complete control and Shawn got let go, Sony hasn't had a single piece of positive news for me. It's been either negative press or silence. For months.
TLOU 2 will be on PS4 so I guess you already don't need to buy a PS5 hehe.
I can see Sony releasing old gen games on PC when releasing their new console, is a smart way to make money again on previously released games.
They are generic boxes, that's the entire point of consoles.
They give people an option of a generic box that doesn't require any knowledge or messing around with and gives devs a generic baseline to develop games for.
I'd say that's harsh. But yeah the people saying that the changes in leadership were just a coincidence and a completely normal thing were talking nonsense in hindsight clearly.
You're missing the most important part of what I said - I'm talking about a generic box that isn't made by Sony or Microsoft and is thus exempt from their stupid little "our consoles are identical but we don't want our games on THEIRS" pissing contest. I want a generic console that plays both of their games.
Playstation has zero value as a CONSOLE without exclusives, the same way that Xbox has zero value as a console if all their games are on PC now. End the console war, move Playstation and Xbox to neutral ground.
'If you're really into games' you dont wait 2+ years for a game to come out on your PC.
The resetera bubble is really strong here.
Most people buy Playstations to play the yearly FIFA and COD. Most people dont even own a desktop anymore. PC gaming and console gaming will always exist. Consoles have ease of use. Thats why some people buy it over a pc.
I don't see them having it day one on PC in general but will make exceptions and may implement a strategy of doing PC ports years after they've milked the release on their console.
I'm ok with this strat. Just hope Jimbo isn't flying too close to the son. Their games and brand is at Nintendo peaks in the industry, people buy PlayStations for their exclusive games.
And with that I give you a Minecraft.
There will always be exceptions.
Jim Ryan's PlayStation is not going to be the same thing we saw for the PS4. Far from it.
I am expecting them to try and go head to head with Microsoft. If they had a Gamepass equivalent (in terms of actual value, not what PSNOW is doing) it would make so much money.
I was exaggerating. But it will sell a lot.
And, preemptively, if the people who don't think this will a shit ton are you the same people who think this will effect PlayStation's ecosystem? Why and how? lol
Not for me. I don't really care about hardware specs and I have literally zero interest in hearing or reading Mark Cerny talk about design philosophy. The only thing that matters is the actual software.
did sony do that voluntarily, or did MLB force their hand?
also there's minecraft, if one game is enough to consider porting all games.
this discussion is pretty dumb. MS and sony putting their games on pc doesn't mean they're gonna do the same for the competitor's console (other than some specific cases)
Bold of them to steal the game like this without microsofts permission and still get away with it
Truth. They couldn't even handle their TLOU2 blowout and that has to be the easiest layup in gaming right now.
That game was on the PS4 before the buyout.. I thought we been through this. Talk about this after MS actually brings something new to the table.
just saying.
So then what's the issue with the software being on PC?
I don't really agree that the features are the same. I've always leaned Xbox precisely because I kostly play 3rd party games, and the features on Xbox consoles have always come earlier than others (voice chat, cloud saves, name changes, etc...). And moving forward, I'm not really confident in the Playstation line's adherence to best practices for software (like BC, cross-platform functionality, etc...).
And even if I thought the features were the same, what a great world that would be. Console makers would have to improve their features to win customers instead of doing the Nintendo thing of locking you to a device that's missing features found on an original Xbox just because you can't play Zelda otherwise.
Exclusive games have always done one thing; paper over shitty feature sets and design flaws. Console makers can now join the rest of the consumer electronics industry and stop competing on easy mode.
I don't think developing for PC at the same time would negatively impact anything much if their tools supported it. Also a tiered plan would just cause the bulk of that market to wait or move on IMO. We see plenty of PC gamers waiting when all they need to do is download a free store. The barrier to entry increases when you need to spend $400-$500 to double dip or buy early. Launching day and date while hype is at its max for the title would likely result in more sales than making some gamers wait where their interest may move onto to newer releases.
The amount of PC enthusiasts who buy a PS just for exclusives will be relatively small compared to the market of PC gamers who would buy day one. There will still be a huge pool of console only gamers to fight over anyways.
Out of curiosity, do you consider this negative news?
Genius move. Port an old blockbuster like horizon to pc. Get a shit load of extra cash especially if Epic pay for store exclusive or timed exclusivity.
PC players realise how good this is and now want to buy a ps5 to play the brand new horizon 2.
Already on PS NOW so that's ticked off. All they need to do now is make it a PS plus game over the summer.
PC players realise how good this is and now want to buy a ps5 to play the brand new horizon 2.
Already on PS NOW so that's ticked off. All they need to do now is make it a PS plus game over the summer.
Having your console-exclusive big hitters being timed console exclusives seems like a great move to me. The kind of people who'll buy a console to play something will probably still do that (rather than wait more than two years for the privilege) and you get access to the additional buying power of the PC market.
Not to mention the fact that it means your game ceases to be landlocked on a console and becomes playable for far, far longer by many more people.
Not to mention the fact that it means your game ceases to be landlocked on a console and becomes playable for far, far longer by many more people.
Because there is a very weird train of thought that if a game is available elsewhere it somehow diminishes the value of my purchase.
I think expanding their user base reach with old exclusives and building hype for the sequels that will be temporarily exclusives to their new console is a great way to attract more consumers, also a way for more people to experience very good games. So yeah, I think this is actually a fantastic idea.
Maybe Sony games coming to PC will end the console wars. I'm still buying both consoles because I don't care for PC gaming but I think this will be best for everyone. Now I don't gotta hear " Sony and PC are the best combo to go with" in every damn Xbox thread. Interested in seeing those peoples views on this news. This will expose numerous fanboys. I think we're slowly headed to a PC only future which I think will be best for everyone besides not personally wanting it.
The fact that I'm happy about this shows how lazy I am. I have a ps4. I should've played this. But no, turning the ps4 on and switching inputs is too much effort for me apparently.
That's actually cool, I just always wanted to see one of Sony's AAA games on PC out of curiosity. Bring it on, and I look forward to new Sunhilegend gifs.
Makes sense. This isn't going to push hardware off of shelves now. May as well introduce people to the IP, and when Horizon 2 is revealed as a launch game for PS5, some PC gamers will likely want to invest in the PS5 because of Horizon 2. Not a bold move, but an unprecedented and tactical one.
But horizon 2 has to be 60fps or more on ps5 for pc gamers to make a jump.
The games are on Steam - using Windows Store and Xbox App is not the main goal, it's another option. They want you in their ecosystem wherever you are and whatever you prefer, including Steam which has XB integrated into it's games.
The same is going to be true with xCloud, and they'll have more reasons for you to also use their services, as an additional extension of the games you player wherever.
Valve also has cloud gaming plans of it's own AND integrating third party services. It is probable that Xbox services will join the likes of EA and nVidia, to reach that audience amongst lots of others they are after, where games are agnostic to devices so long as they can extend their ecosystem and attract to services that those customers find useful
Sony look to be doing the same. It make sense, its where the money is. Cloud gaming brings the barrier to entry lower, and extending the value of games you own by letting you play anywhere on whatever device you want, will be a big driver going forward.