Southwest passenger injured midflight by engine shrapnel, partially sucked out of plane [UP: 1 dead]
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Every twin engined airliner is supposed to be able to maintain flight on a single engine before it is certified to be manufactured. Four engined airliners like the 747 and A380 are a dying breed.
If anything their infrequency makes me feel better. I feel like I hear about an engine failure maybe once every five years, if even that. Admittedly it happens more often than I hear of, but I always feel like this is the kind of shit we should be hearing about all the goddamn time.
Hey, what I said was a fact.
This is pure truth, I'm sorry you can't handle it.
They are lucky the components didn't hit any hydraulic lines or otherwise disturb the control surfaces. But as I said earlier uncontained engine failures are a big no no.
I have two irrational fears. Heights and Spiders. I'm ok with avoiding both.
Correct. You really need 2 to properly take off but you can maintain a holding pattern and land with one. Even in some cases you can still continue climbing with one engine to a certain limit.
I've not lost anyone I care about to either. I did serve on a jury following a plane crash. That was an awful experience.
You are more likely to die in a car crash than for the engine of an airplane to blow up, open a window, and then suck you out. This was a freak occurrence.
That does sound awful. I assume part of trial was determining monetary damage for amount of suffering passengers went through?
There would be few things more terrifying, so I really feel for her. Hopefully she will recover fully, or close to fully and be okay. That had to be horrifying.
Indeed. on both points.
The incident has already hit AV Herald
http://avherald.com/h?article=4b7725fb&opt=0
One engine down and a loss of cabin pressure. That's a hell of a pilot that put the wheels on the runway.
For those who like poetry, here's a poem by James Dickey (author of Deliverance) inspired by the true story of a flight attendant who was sucked out of a plane when a cabin door blew open in flight.
https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/42716/falling-56d22155e5c45
https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/42716/falling-56d22155e5c45
Indeed, that's what is concerning here.
The shrapnel had to go up and over the wing to smash that window. It should have been sucked out through the engine and away from the fuselage in the event of a failure. That's what the engine is designed to do and in most cases, does.
That it perhaps didn't do more damage to the fuselage than break the window, or didn't damage the wing if it blew out in front of it, is something to breathe a quick sigh of relief over.
Yeah, it sucked. The photos of the crash scene and victims was down right horrifying.
I'll be interested to read the full report in a few months. This smells like a manufacturing defect to me but time will tell.
This should make you want to fly more. An entire engine failed, broke a window, depressurized the cabin and THE PLANE STILL LANDED FINE.
Try that in a car.
Well I'm certainly MUUUUUUUCH more afraid of even the prospect of dying in a plane related accident than I am in a car related one. I'm just saying that, statistically, the latter is much more likely than the former
It's also annoying to see the complete lack of understanding and acceptance of basic statistics and facts.
Exactly.
Every time I start looking in detail at plane windows while imagining nightmare scenarios, I rationalize it with "oh well, we'd hear about these accidents".
In what context? I agree the goal should be to make all of them equally safe.
You'd be amazed at all the weird and outrageous circumstances that have struck commercial aviation over the years.
Not what I needed to see a day before I am flying, in a window seat. But as Superman says, still statistically safe means of travel. But I'll probably hit the bar before I go...
Because it's not fearmongering (fuckin lol) and I don't work for the airplane lobby
I have an irrational fear of Hippos, I know that I'm more likely to die from NOT A HIPPO but that doesn't mean I wanna see one in a zoo
This statistical pedantry is boring as fuck and makes you all sound like lame ass fortune cookies tbh
Did you know planes are way faster than cars? That's all the facts I need to know in order to keep flying over long distances instead of driving.
But yeah, this still must've been damn terrifying. I try not to think about the age of the plane and the maintenance corners that are being cut when I travel.
Then car travel has some serious work to do to match the safety record of air travel.
Not sure if the seatbelt was on our not, but yes folks wear your fucking seatbelt at all times when seated. Unexpected turbulence is a thing and people die from it.
Hope she recovers
Hope she recovers
Because people who rely on statistical information are nerds. I see, I see.
Man, I'm going to have nightmares now, seriously. What accident was that ?You'd be amazed at all the weird and outrageous circumstances that have struck commercial aviation over the years.
Man I forgot how weird Brandon Routh looked in that movie. Who the hell thought those blue contacts were a good idea?
No, it's actually fearmongering. If BS about airplane safety leads to more people choosing to drive long distances vs fly, they are being exposed to excess risk of death or severe injury. Fearmongering can lead to well meaning but bad policy, which could lead to excess morbidity and morality. See https://theincidentaleconomist.com/wordpress/when-good-intentions-make-bad-policy-car-seat-edition/
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If you get partially sucked out of a plane, you have to rely on the strength and quick reaction of the other passengers to save you
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Wow, your pedantry has surely eased the tension of any nervous flyers in this thread, keep fighting the good fight.
Neil DeGrasse Tyson would be proud.
Injured by shrapnel THEN partially sucked out of the plane?
That's just insult on top of injury.
That's just insult on top of injury.
I am less likely to be pulled over and beaten by police if I'm flying.
On a serious note this is terrifying.
On a serious note this is terrifying.