Better late than never but pretty bad timing with how Xbox has been performing lately. But if their next games can run on Switch 2 and is day one on PC they should be able to get more sales than remaining exclusive.
Please justify why Sony would give a shit about a worthless genre like JRPGs in the larger scheme of things. They have more or less completely abandoned the Japanese market with their first party titles. Why would they go back?
It's clear when they talk multiplatforn it is about their biggest games.
A lot of their smaller games are multiplat but thar also been part of a strategy from the previous CEO to ramp up more mid tier games. The new CEO is refocusing on AAA and those games which previously had been timed or defacto exclusives will now go multiplatform
A lot of their smaller games are multiplat but thar also been part of a strategy from the previous CEO to ramp up more mid tier games. The new CEO is refocusing on AAA and those games which previously had been timed or defacto exclusives will now go multiplatform
Dear Square Enix,
Release Kingdom Hearts from Epic on PC and put it on Steam.
Congrats on your $100 million in sales, I would like a 5% advice fee.
Thanks!
Release Kingdom Hearts from Epic on PC and put it on Steam.
Congrats on your $100 million in sales, I would like a 5% advice fee.
Thanks!
they're a platform holder so they tend to like having key things fill out their portfolio even if it doesn't set the world on fire
this is from last year in May during their business briefing:
Usually if they themselves don't make it they have some other third party replace it with a timed deal/exclusivity
here though it says "PS Studios" so these genres will cover the first party bracket
I don't know how pedantic people get about the JRPG definition if it's not specifically made in Japan, but I wouldn't be surprised if one of the China hero projects turns out to be a JRPG.
Why is stating that Switch 2 will most likely be successful such a controversial statement to you?
I mean, it's not a 100% certainty but it's a pretty safe bet? This is one of those cases of Nintendo (presumably) making the right moves to continue their current momentum. There's nothing I can see at this time that suggests they are making any particularly poor business decisions. BC will be there, the price will probably be fine, there probably won't be any naming flops, they probably intend to make it readily available asap, ECT. The console is also going to have several sequels to dozens (!) of multi million selling games for both casual fans and longtime gamers, and many will only be there. No reason to bet against a machine that will be exclusively carrying the latest Mario Kart, Splatoon, Legend of Zelda, Pokemon, Animal Crossing and so on.
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FF, Xenoblade and persona on a single platform its pretty nuts ngl
Switch 2 will be the definitive JRPG machine, pretty exiting:)
…But they'll have to add a day to the week to be able to play them lol, those games are too long lol
Switch 2 will be the definitive JRPG machine, pretty exiting:)
…But they'll have to add a day to the week to be able to play them lol, those games are too long lol
It was always inevitable to happen at some point, but it's still probably not going to happen until after the third game unfortunately
Yes those are broad genres. Sony has plenty of RPGs to cover that ground. They just don't need to be FF-like JRPGs. Sony has moved away from Japanese platforms and Japanese actions games. They have abandoned all the quirky Japanese indie/digital games.they're a platform holder so they tend to like having key things fill out their portfolio even if it doesn't set the world on fire
this is from last year in May during their business briefing:
Diversity is subjective and Sony is clearly much more of an international/western facing first party now than ever before. Even something very Japanese like Death Stranding is a deal that uses technology from Guerilla Games.
Sony is hardly Japanese anymore and people need to wake up to that and stop pining over ages past.
Finally. SE releasing games day 1 on PC and Nintendo hardware means I'll be able to get rid of the PS5.
The Switch is already selling mainly for Nintendo games. Besides, the S.E. games released on Switch (outside DQ) are not big successes either and apart from Monster Hunter, Minecraft and a few f2p like Fornite what are the big third-party publisher successes on Switch? Look at the top 10 Japan, there are 90% Nintendo games in it
Do people think it's more or less likely that the Sony contract has the FF7 games as console exclusives in perpetuity?
Square will definitely check to see if Microsoft is willing to give them a huge bag of cash for the ports and a game pass release I think.
Pretty sure a lot of the Switch games they released have been successful: the Dragon Quest games , Triangle Strategy, and the first Octopath all did well afaik
You mean like forever? There's no chance of that lol
Monster Hunter Rise is the only major third party title that released on the Nintendo Switch and that was massively successful. What major third party games do you think launched on Switch and failed? Even Falcom has pivoted to develop Switch ports of their games and you're insinuating Square Enix wouldn't find success there? Come on son.
No contract is in perpetuity. It's why the royal lives clause is a thing.
I am of the group that singles it as a JRPG due to the genre and how the game is rather then where it was made.
Mate, half of all games sold on Switch (excluding digital only titles) are 3rd party.
the thing with FF7R is that possibly the deal was inked during the PS4 gen and could possibly cover the entire costs and exclusivity for the trilogy and not just a single game
instead it is more easier to assume what these statements mean for future FFs or KHs, etc...
The 2 most popular "JRPGs" not called pokemon right now are not final fantasy, persona, or dragon quest. Are Genshin Impact and Honkai Star Rail. Kudos to the japanese developer Hoyoverse for that achievement
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They definitely paid them a certain amount to keep it exclusive for x period of time otherwise we wouldn't have 12month or 6month exclusivity period notes on the ads.
a change in strategy doesn't seem like a clear indication that existing contracts will be voided because of underperformance. You have to assume that Part 3 will also be exclusive to PS5 because Sony probably has dibs on the whole trilogy. I don't know how SE could overturn that unless they bought the contract out for a multiplatform release which sounds like something that never happens.
Wait im confused. Isn't practically all Square games Multi-Platform except the 2 most recent Final Fantasy games? They can't just be making this decision off of just those 2 games.
The industry itself isn't stagnant, companies change plans all the time as much as consumers change games.
Sony could choose to chase after making their own JRPGs again if it makes sense for them and that is something they know and not us.
At the same time you won't see plans truly manifest into the public sphere until years from now due to development time lines being overly bloated.
Off the top of my head, at least two Dragonball games (Xenoverse and Fighter Z), Octopath 1, Takio no Tasujin, the Dark Souls remaster, Persona 5 R and SMT V all cleared a million. Dragon Quest 11 did well too. The Pixel remasters sold what were printed. I've also heard some smaller games like Live a Live and Shiren and House in Fata Morgana have done well for themselves. It's hard to tell unless the devs say something since it's hard to keep track of digital sales, but there's plenty of success stories. They don't have to sell more than Nintendo, just sell enough to meet expectations (or exceed them)
They are also F2P games that capitalise on low barrier of entry and a business model built around character appeal and gambling. Things that core traditional JRPG fans and developers tend to be against. Nothing sign of an incompatibility between what the traditional JRPG market is, and the market that leads to top tier earners today.
What are the other big third party releases that you're referring to? You named em all
It isn't that weird when you consider that they are simultaneously the two big cases of Square doing major exclusives and also two big cases of Square having some high profile games underperforming (more 7Re than 16, but even 16's PR has to try and couch things to cover up it not doing great).
They are indeed paying for it, that's why you're seeing this in their trailer:
Yeah Sony could choose to chase a dying market that is getting less and less relevant year on year. Sure. More power to them.
I ain't betting on that happening though. Lol.
I agree with you it seems very unlikely, I feel like (before today) I had still seen discussion of the possibility. Or if exclusivity ending after the trilogy finished was the "best case" scenario
People are speculating about Part 3, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was a clause in whatever contract currently exists that gives SE a way out for the third game. Whether that be a trigger like certain sales targets not being met with Rebirth or simply a condition allowing SE to buy their way out of it.
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Yeah this is probably their main goal they're aiming for with "multiplatform."
And I expect Xbox will miss out on some ports, but will still get the big stuff.
Switch is a good marketplace for 3rd party games despite it being filled almost entirely with modest successes, but it's important to remember that the vast majority of those games also have modest budgets and ambitions.
Can't expect massive success on the Switch if you're not putting your big hitters on the Switch.
Welcome to ResetEra lol there's always concern when announcements like this happen.
I mean Squeenix themselves state that Xbox is a platform going forward, right in the OT text - and in your example of DQ11 the DE did come Day 1, and with this announcement, it'd only make sense to continue doing so considering the dire state that both of these companies are in.
They would be shooting themselves in the foot (heh) if they didn't release their big multiplatform games Day 1 - all the momentum is at release and your odds of success/profitability taper off significantly the more delayed your release is, not to mention the sheer cost/effort of doing it for a single box. - this entire announcement is to state that basically...BUT it is Squeenix, so I assume it will be implemented terribly.
I'm of the opinion that it was signed in perpetuity for the games called Remake, Rebirth, and _______, but that if they decided to make a Legendary Edition, a la the Mass Effect trilogy, that would be exempt and able to be shipped on other platforms.
They make some DUMB decisions, but I can't in any universe see Squeenix locking down THE definitive version of their most iconic game onto a single platform lol, I just can't.
Considering how Remake still isn't on Xbox, I think it pretty much has to be the case. If that console exclusivity window was gone they would have shopped it for a Game Pass by now
You are describing what they already been doing.
This means a release like DQXII would hit NS/PC/PS/Xbox Day 1.
Is it a dying market?
Tales of Arise did well, so does Persona, Yakuza (Like a Dragon) is doing well, etc...
Maybe it is dying in Japan but most companies are chasing the growing global market.
People aren't buying FF but they are buying other JRPGs and now you have a new generation that hasn't even been raised by the old JRPGs for you to attract and grow.
Konami also had a major success with their Momotaro games on Switch. Bomberman did well enough at launch that it revitalized the franchise (and its two followups showed up as multiplatform as a result).
Forspoken was also console exclusive. Not that it mattered. It's also a question of "day one multiplatform" which this seems to be implying. They're not going to be single-platform exclusive at day one with anything.
Many of the questions sparked here are whether or not that affects existed releases. Genki had a follow-up about that which I think is interesting:
View: https://twitter.com/Genki_JPN/status/1790016636461736204
Basically, we may not see much change in the next couple years. It's probably not easy to try to switch mid-dev, but it does mean future announcements will likely be multiplatform.
I find it surprising since it felt like Sony were getting a good bang for their buck since they are currently getting many additional month of "free" exclusivity out of their deals. FF16 6 month exclusivity deal is already now close to a year. And pretty much everyone expect Rebirth 3 month exclusivity to end up being ( much ? ) more than that because they will need to space out ff16 PC/ff14 Dawntrail/ff7 Rebirth PC releases.