Stanley Kubrick seemed like an asshole during this behind the scenes of the shining
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I also think it's all in context. I'm sure they've reamed out someone once or twice in their careers. But in an actor's world get yelled at for a repeated bad take is probably par for the course so it's like no biggie. But the stuff Kubrick did, by Hollywood standards he was an asshole. By any other standards downright nutjob
Reaching in a Rob Ager video? That dude is totally full of shit.
I'm not saying it was, but that was part of who he was.
Fincher is the type that does a fucking ridiculous amount of takes. Some directors are like that (though Fincher is widely known for it), others only shoot a couple, others insist on the absolute minimum. Some are fine with actors going off script and others lose their shit if they don't stick to the script. Each has their own thing, but they are trying to make something that is a substantial investment (Whether the budget is tens of thousands or many millions, it's still risky), with a lot of moving parts, and needs to get done in a set amount of time. Usually takes a big personality to pull it off, and big personalities tend to come with big quirks.
Honestly, you could've stopped the thread title after the word "asshole" and you'd still be right. Kubrick was not a nice guy.
Yeah and he was especially cruel to actress Shelley Duval. I think she said that her experience with the Shining made her want to quit acting. It was known in Hollywood that Kubrick was a narcissistic asshole.
Of course he was, it's well known. I have been told that was his way to push his actors out of their self-made boundaries.
Once the mental wall is broken with anger or other extreme emotions, the acting is freed.
(I don't know if that was really a searched effect or just a byproduct).
Once the mental wall is broken with anger or other extreme emotions, the acting is freed.
(I don't know if that was really a searched effect or just a byproduct).
Lol Kubrick being a huge asshole is not a secret. The female actress used to cry on the set almost every day. Jack Nicholson kinda defended Kubrick saying that Kubrick upsetted her on purpose so that she would look more 'desperate'in the movie.
I thought the story there was they got along really well and McDowell thought they would be friends afterwards but Kubrick didn't reciprocate.
Kubrick still put him through the ringer and nearly blinded him.
Well obviously... Allen had to get home to read his partner's bedtime stories and make sure they did their home work. Funny and amazing writer but fucked in the brain.
Anyone see the new doc out about Kubrick and his long time and very loyal assistant? The trailer looked super interesting.
https://www.npr.org/2018/05/10/6094...ssistant-comes-in-from-the-cold-in-filmworker
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https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/filmworker
https://www.npr.org/2018/05/10/6094...ssistant-comes-in-from-the-cold-in-filmworker
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https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/filmworker
Impatient... He shot it for fifty weeks.
This is a very tough thing. Like during The Exorcist, that director literally assaulted his cast, and like shot guns off on set and stuff. To what degree do we think it's acceptable to upset actors? A director's job is to drive the actor to their greatest performance. Obviously they shouldn't be physically assaulting people, but being a dick? Seems fair game to me.
This is a very tough thing. Like during The Exorcist, that director literally assaulted his cast, and like shot guns off on set and stuff. To what degree do we think it's acceptable to upset actors? A director's job is to drive the actor to their greatest performance. Obviously they shouldn't be physically assaulting people, but being a dick? Seems fair game to me.
in the making of for the shining, scatman is seen near tears because of how kindly kubrick treated him ... people are complex creatures, kubrick was demanding as a director but all evidence points to him being a very kind human being outside directing. he paused filming during full metal jacket because one of the trees they brought in for foliage crushed a rabbit hole killing some.
Check out what the cast of the Abyss thinks of James Cameron sometime. Ed Harris almost drowned on set and had a mental breakdown driving home from the set that day. The female lead hated Cameron's fucking guts and vowed to never work with him again.
You would be an asshole too if you had to carry the secret that you just filmed the fake moon landing footage and fooled the whole planet. Just kidding.
He mainly loses me when he gets on his Freudian shit, man sees dicks everywhere. He's also a real old curmudgeon about newer movies.
He was difficult to work with but I am not sure people should be calling him a terrible person. I can't recall any actors saying they outright hated him and most had complex feelings about working with him. I mean the composer Wendy Carlos is pretty open in her life about people she doesn't like and gave praise to him while admitting it was frustrating at times to work with him because they are both perfectionists and she always wanted different takes then the ones Stanley wanted to use in his films.
He had a very exhausting personality but does not necessarily mean he was mean spirited, Spielberg was a friend of his and said he had phone calls with him about various things but Stanley wanted to keep talking hours on end.
He had a very exhausting personality but does not necessarily mean he was mean spirited, Spielberg was a friend of his and said he had phone calls with him about various things but Stanley wanted to keep talking hours on end.
This is a logical fallacy - you assume his approach is right because his output was great. Who's to say it wouldn't have been better if he'd been more cordial on set?
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You can be a dickhead and like animals.
Shit, he'd be more of a genius if he could bring about his vision without hurting others in the process.
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Didn't Harris actually punch in the Cameron in the face after the near-drowning incident?
Just another in a long line of great male directors that got away with all kinds of shit because they were heralded as geniuses. Kubrick, Hitchcock, Jodorowsky... the line goes on and on...
Not really. And this mindset gets people to think that kind of stuff is considered okay.
Yes, Fincher has explained that he's often looking for something in particular. For example, in The Social Network where Zuckerberg is throwing down his bookbag after entering his dorm and opening his fridge, he wants it to look like he's done this a hundred times; that there isn't any thought behind it. But, it's one thing to demand a hundred or so takes, it's another to be an asshole on top. I don't know if Fincher is also an asshole.
I'd you watched the doc Cameron put himself the same shit. It was an awful, demanding shoot.
Other actors have worked with him multiple times.
Not as big of a name but Kevin Smith has always been held in high regard with the people he works with.
From all accounts Willis was the asshole during CopOut, but I did forget about that until you just mentioned it.
There was a book that came out a few years after he died by the screenwriter of EWS, and it was a very interesting take on his personality. From this guy's anecdotes, Kubrick came off as not only an enormous prick, but kind of an intellectual fraud compared to the image he maintained about himself. The book did read like fan fiction a lot of the time, but I chose to believe the gist of it. You might take a lot of this as Kubrick just not wasting any of his intellect or energy on this guy as they worked together, but the stories were really sad to read.
Unless you're purposefully trying to drain actors of all their "acting" for a raw performance, Ive always thought directors who took that many shots just didn't know what they wanted.
Like Lord n Miller in Solo throwing everything against the wall to see what stuck, and Ron Howard coming in and going "you stand there, I want the camera there, and this scene needs to accomplish this" and doing it in two takes.
Like Lord n Miller in Solo throwing everything against the wall to see what stuck, and Ron Howard coming in and going "you stand there, I want the camera there, and this scene needs to accomplish this" and doing it in two takes.