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JonnyDBrit

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The Measure of a Man is validation for this entire video's existence. Love the mundane air of it all
 

Wrexis

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15 minute video on legal shit in Starfleet? Too much for me.

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So anyway I'm 8 minutes in.
This is really good.
 

Mivey

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I mean, it makes sense why there aren't lawyers in Star Trek.
Clearly the entire profession went poof after ChatGPT5 came about in the first half of the 21st century. And any problems you might run into can always be easily solved, after all, it's Star Fleet that has the biggest ships and the superior weapons tech, most of the time. Not that they would use it, but I'm sure it helps.
 
One of his best skits.

Funny enough I seem to recall one of the trek writers bibles (?) stating that the Federation had mandated common law be made clear and simple enough that any citizen could be expected to understand it directly and advocate for themselves in court. Which is funny when considering the increased complexity of not just a planetary government but a multi-civilizational star federation.

Maybe Gene was just bitchy about a lawyer he didn't like and wanted them to be obsolete.
 

B.K.

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One of his best skits.

Funny enough I seem to recall one of the trek writers bibles (?) stating that the Federation had mandated common law be made clear and simple enough that any citizen could be expected to understand it directly and advocate for themselves in court. Which is funny when considering the increased complexity of not just a planetary government but a multi-civilizational star federation.

Maybe Gene was just bitchy about a lawyer he didn't like and wanted them to be obsolete.

So Lionel Hutz was right?


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tsmoreau

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Steve Shives is awesome, binged his DS9 stuff awhile back but haven't watched anything in a minute! Thank you for reminding me he exists!
 

NCR Ranger

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Okay, his rant about baby birds reminds me so much of my brother telling me how hard it was for him to get out of the government to the private sector. I couldn't help but laugh my ass off at that point. Hell, from that point on he sounded like so many government people I knew crushed by their meaningless, but cushy jobs.
 

Mivey

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Just need to put one in the main cast at some point.
I don't think that excuse even works, you have characters like Barclay who serve as technical specialists and still got a lot of screen time. Just feels like the writers didn't care much about legal expertise in general; "just have a few grand speches and everything magically works out"
 
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I don't think that excuse even works, you have characters like Barclay who serve as technical specialists and still got a lot of screen time. Just feels like the writers didn't care much about legal expertise in general; "just have a few grand speches and everything magically works out"
Oh, that wasn't meant as an justification for why.

It wasn't meant as suggestion for how to fix it. Put a JAG officer in the main cast. Have her do away missions with other crew members on planets that have established civilizations. Give her the same kind of commentary other technical and sociological characters get every now and then. Toss her an episode or two every now and then where the crew needs some obscure knowledge that falls within her purview to solve a problem. Doesn't even have to be the main problem in the same way you occasionally have Scotty or Geordie or O'Brien pop up in episodes they are otherwise uninvolved in to say they did x, y, z and the plan that the actual featured characters of the episode have in place should be good to go.
 

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Oh, that wasn't meant as an justification for why.

It wasn't meant as suggestion for how to fix it. Put a JAG officer in the main cast. Have her do away missions with other crew members on planets that have established civilizations. Give her the same kind of commentary other technical and sociological characters get every now and then. Toss her an episode or two every now and then where the crew needs some obscure knowledge that falls within her purview to solve a problem. Doesn't even have to be the main problem in the same way you occasionally have Scotty or Geordie or O'Brien pop up in episodes they are otherwise uninvolved in to say they did x, y, z and the plan that the actual featured characters of the episode have in place should be good to go.
Do we really want a character to not have anything substantive to say ("Nothing significant to report, sir") among operators and the general staff... but then shoehorn in an awkward scene between her and the Captain (who is still fighting off Borg possession or worrying about deploying forces to the Delta Quadrant) that she spent hours upon hours of off-screen time researching the Starfleet regulation on promotion actions and that's why Harry Kim is still lawfully an Ensign? Or that she researched technical order concerning transporter usage, because you know that JAG is going to be leading the Equal Opportunity complaint against LT Barclay's holodeck proclivities?

Also, she's helping the random LCDR write the reprimand for the Ensign who showed up late to work because he spent too much time at Quark's.

In theory, you could have a steely-faced JAG briefing Picard that the governing Starfleet rules of engagement prohibit firing upon the Crystalline Entity because it hadn't been declared hostile by the random evil Admiral who ate a brainworm, and said Admiral withheld such declarations from subordinate commanders ... unless, nudge nudge, the Enterprise was acting in self-defense?

Also, the JAG would totally be the one to pull together a massive chronology in Adobe Acrobat CCCLV Pro Edition for all of CAPT Janeway's timeline shenanigans, and she would spend about 72 hours fighting with the software to create a decision memo for another corrupt Admiral (maybe secretly also a Timecop).

Also, she would approve the bake sale fundraiser dedicated to the memory of Tuvix.

Maybe it could work! Let's cast the guy who plays the lawyer on It's Always Sunny!

Source: I am a JAG officer. We are not usually very interesting.
 
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Source: I am a JAG officer. We are not interesting.
Your expertise is irrelevant here, a fiction writer can make any job interesting. Especially when not having to abide by general human principals or modern day rules!

Source: I am a fiction writer. Everyone is interesting.
 

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Your expertise is irrelevant here, a fiction writer can make any job interesting. Especially when not having to abide by general human principals or modern day rules!

Source: I am a fiction writer. Everyone is interesting.
I agree with you, sir, but insist you cast Matt Berry for this role.

Then why was their an entire syndicated series about y'all? You can't handle the truth!
That phrase is whatever the opposite of a safe word is.
 

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Mivey

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This is in the Enterprise era, so before the Federation and before Earth was cashless
Oh, yeah, that explains the uniform and look of the place. Just assumed it was some kind of engine area that looked a bit less nice than what we see in the shows, but it being in the ENT area makes a ton more sense