State of Decay 2 Review Thread
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I'm buying the game and even have 2 days off for it but man Microsoft can't create a first party gem. I'm sure me and my wife will have a good time though all things considered.
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That would be a mountain of frustration. Maybe they should've done an extended beta.
That would be a mountain of frustration. Maybe they should've done an extended beta.
That's just it, though: it's personal opinion. Not everyone feels that way.
With that reasoning, half of Japanese games should be getting 5s because they are far jankier than most triple-A western productions. It's down to reviewers' personal tastes and experiences to decide how decisive those bugs were on the amount of enjoyment they got from the game. GTA: San Andreas erased my 40+ hours save once and has a lot of bugs, I still think it's one of the best games ever made and I'd rate it close to 10.
Depends how jaded a reviewer is and if they see no hope of patches, updates etc. If they firmly belive nothing will ever change, then feel free to mark it down. Personally, I like to stay positive but reviewers are just a random person's experience of a game, guess it depends on how many crazy world ending bugs happen.
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But then again reviewers job is to inform on some of these things. Let's say there is a very common save breaking bug but you don't happen to encounter it. Should you talk about it in the review? Should it affect the score?
Some reviewers aren't encountering major game breaking bugs. Without that the game is apparently pretty good. This is going to be divisive.
Most of the reviewers seem to be praising the base building and the community management, which is the only thing i'm interested in.
7 is a good average. I didn't expect it to be worse, didn't expect it to be better.
It's a sequel to a XBL arcade game and i'm glad it's just a pure sequel. 22nd of May can't come soon enough.
7 is a good average. I didn't expect it to be worse, didn't expect it to be better.
It's a sequel to a XBL arcade game and i'm glad it's just a pure sequel. 22nd of May can't come soon enough.
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Eurogamer reviews have been way off the mark lately, I wouldn't pay too much attention to that one.
That's a shame about the bugs, the first one to me was basically Busywork: The Game where I was constantly not able to do the thing I wanted to do because person x needs help or thing y needs attention. Was hoping this one would deliver a better balance but the bugs sound terrible.
I think there's no harm in mentioning it (especially if it involves things like save game bugs) but if the reviewer didn't experience it personally then I don't think it should be considered in their final score.
But they only have their own experiences to go off of. How are they supposed to review an experience they did not have? It's not about positivity, it's about the reality of their playtime.
I genuinely find this line of reasoning incredibly confusing.
The most a reviewer can do is mention them but if it personally didn't happen in your game then it shouldn't affect the score.
Not comparable, completely different dev teams , and circumstances.
Back on topic hopefully the team can focus on fixing bugs , they definitely have an interesting game that some really do seem to enjoy despite technical shortcomings. Unfortunately those same shortcomings are a real blocker for others.
Here's our review, would love to get it in the OP! We gave it 4/5.
https://gaminglyf.com/reviews/2018-05-17-review-state-of-decay-2/
Any feedback much appreciated.
https://gaminglyf.com/reviews/2018-05-17-review-state-of-decay-2/
Any feedback much appreciated.
I dont know if Crackdown was really suffering from bugs but latest we've heard on it is that the delay did a lot of good.
Can you substantiate your statement? No.
Please don't make statements that you can't back up with evidence, especially when you didn't need to make statement to make your point.
Oh please. I expect websites to review games based on what they are at the time of review, not what they might be like several months down the line.
Final Fantasy XV launched with all kinds of issues. Bayonetta ran like shit on PS3 and gad some hit detection issues back then that I remember (not played the Wii U/Switch re-release yet). The recent Xbox One port of Ys Origin had very janky and uncomfortable menus. The Warriors games and their spin-offs are often a technical mess, in particular Bladestorm on X1 would dip below 10fps during the tutorial. From the top of my head, and I don't even play many Japanese games outside of Nintendo stuff like Mario Kart.
Games can definitely be good regardless of the technical issues. Bethesda's RPGs are like the poster boys of this concept. Implying a 9 can't be given to a game with technical issues, that the specific reviewer may not even have encountered besides a couple framerate drops or hit detection troubles, is kinda absurd.
Exactly, it's funny these people got the games they deserve after all.
About State of Decay i saw this coming years ago. Original game never got it's problems fixed even after the re-release, so don't expect anything different here.
There's a lot of room between really buggy and GTA-esque polish and plenty of budget games have plenty of polish (Hellblade, Yakuza 0, billions of indie games) so I don't think they deserve a pass just because of that, they have MS backing them too, so far more than most other budget games.
Hopefully they can fix it up though, as the first had a lot of charm once you got past the clunkyness.
This is getting ok reviews so let's slow down with these types of posts.
a lot of people disagree with that *shrug*
not me, necessarily, but it's not a black and white issue
I agree with this, budget can't be a catch-all excuse for all technical issues. But certain reviews seemed surprised this feels like it's a budget title. It is a budget title, though. But I liked the first game enough despite its jank to be up for this sequel, and with the fact it's in Game Pass, a service I would have got even without State Of Decay 2, if it ends up being too buggy for me to enjoy it I wouldn't have wasted money on it.
Can we not do that thing where people attack Japanese games with absurd blanket comments like these in order to defend underwhelming Western productions?
Some reviewers simply don't encounter bugs.
Some reviewers encounter a ton of bugs.
Some reviewers like the game so much that a bunch of bugs don't detract from their enjoyment.
We're going to see all of those types of reviewers in these reviews.
Some reviewers encounter a ton of bugs.
Some reviewers like the game so much that a bunch of bugs don't detract from their enjoyment.
We're going to see all of those types of reviewers in these reviews.
Thats just Bethesda games.
They're all incredibly broken yet everyone falls over themselves.
In the end, the majority of reviews seems to have had an ok to good time, some even great which to me is all that matters.
Having played the first game, it was easy to know what to expect from a sequel as they focus more on the mechanics than other areas which is where the majority of the praise come from.
Or Skyrim, for that matter - the re-releases on the billionth console still have bugs from back in the day, yet most people still claim it's one of the best games ever made. It was a really weird statement that a buggy game can't get a 9.
Bullshit, FFXV wasn't a janky mess, it was one of the most polished open world games.
Well, not excusing a buggy mess but at least they can be fixed eventually.
The concept of SoD is solid and as it's on Game Pass I can try it risk free but it's sad to see such a level of bugs present as it'll potentially kill off sales.
Surely the release date wasn't so important as to release in such a state?
The concept of SoD is solid and as it's on Game Pass I can try it risk free but it's sad to see such a level of bugs present as it'll potentially kill off sales.
Surely the release date wasn't so important as to release in such a state?
FFXV had framepacing issues on PS4 but it was not buggy. I couldn't find articles mentioned these issues you stated it had. However you haven't provided evidence to backup your statement. Not only was it hyperbole you yourself argued against the premise. I never had a problem with the second half of the statement but the first.
Didn't say it was a mess, it was a reaction to a post that implied a game with issues can't get a 9.
And yet Forza 7 was released in a far more complete state than Gran Turismo Sport. One game doesn't have much bearing on the quality of another, but I agree that SoD2 shouldn't have been released in this state. Crackdown 3 is clearly a much bigger project than this though.
Any game can get a 9 or a 10 if it gives that kind of experience to the reviewer. If the game is so good that any bug matters to you, score the game what you like,.
Expect it's not broken. It has bugs - mainly in the visual area. Two different things.
And about your "2018" reference ...
http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/fallout-3
91% Metacritic. Buggy as fuck. Ten years ago.
You must have missed the stellar ratings games like Fallout 3 or Skyrim got last-gen, and those were truly full of bugs.
I'm sure there'll still be plenty to enjoy despite the bugs, the first game was incredibly addictive despite having a lot of issues and it seems 2 is better in everyway, outside of bugs. I'll probably get to it later this year, as I plan to finally get round to my XB1 backlog (Sunset Overdrive mostly), so hoping it's all fixed up by then.
I know Metacritic scores should not be the most important thing to decide to buy or not a game, but the total average of scores are mostly correct.
Some reviewers won't be affected by bugs as much as others and that's why we have the 8,5 or even 9 scores but in the end the Metacritic average gives the correct idea of a game quality.
In this case a 7.2 seems fitting while describing a good game but really buggy.
Some reviewers won't be affected by bugs as much as others and that's why we have the 8,5 or even 9 scores but in the end the Metacritic average gives the correct idea of a game quality.
In this case a 7.2 seems fitting while describing a good game but really buggy.