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Can you smell the desperation? The opening of Intel's CC yesterday:
Thank you, John, and good afternoon, everyone. Q4 was the culmination of a year of tremendous progress toward our IDM 2.0 transformation. We consistently executed on our plan to reestablish process leadership, further build out our capacity and foundry plans, greatly improved product execution, and began to execute on our mission to bring AI everywhere across our product segments.
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Intel continues its mission to bring AI everywhere. We see the AI workload as a key driver of the $1 trillion semiconductor TAM by 2030. And given our foundry and product offerings, we're the only company able to participate in 100% of the TAM for AI silicon logic. We have already discussed how our 50-year heritage and high-performance computing transistors and our advanced packaging positions IFS to benefit from the accelerating move to AI.
Within our product portfolio, we are the only company with the products, IP and ecosystem reach to empower customers to seamlessly integrate and effectively run AI in all their applications from the cloud through the network, into the enterprise client and edge. For the developer working with multitrillion parameter frontier models in the cloud, Goudi and our suite of AI accelerators provides a powerful combination of performance, competitive MLPerf benchmarks, and leadership TCO. As AI proliferates and the world moves toward more AI-integrated application, there's a market shift toward local inferencing and smaller, more nimble models. It's a nod to both the necessity of data privacy and an answer to cloud-based inferencing cost and round-trip latency.
With AI-accelerated Xeon for enterprise, Core Ultra ushering in the AIPC era, and OpenVINO enabling developers seamless and versatile support for a range of clients and edge silicon, we are bringing AI to where the data is being generated and used rather than requiring it in the cloud. Our expansive footprint spanning cloud and enterprise servers to volume clients and ubiquitous edge devices positions us well to enable the AI continuum across all our market segments. In Q4, our server business experienced solid sequential growth, consistent with market share, which we believe was flat with Q3 levels. Since launching 4th Gen Xeon in early 2023, we have shipped more than 2.5 million units with approximately one-third of all 4th Gen demand driven by AI.
With our 5th Gen Xeon launch, we enable up to 42% higher AI inference performance, compared to the industry-leading 4th Gen Xeon. 5th Gen Xeon has reached general availability at Alibaba is entering public and private previews with several CSPs and is on track to ship with OEMs next month. More importantly, our improved execution is strengthening our product portfolio with Gen 4 and Gen 5 Xeon ramping well, Sierra Forest and Granite Rapids coming soon and Clearwater Forest already going into the fab. Momentum is building and positioning us well to win back share in the data center.
Our Gaudi2 AI accelerators...
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Thank you, John, and good afternoon, everyone. Q4 was the culmination of a year of tremendous progress toward our IDM 2.0 transformation. We consistently executed on our plan to reestablish process leadership, further build out our capacity and foundry plans, greatly improved product execution, and began to execute on our mission to bring AI everywhere across our product segments.
Then later:
Intel continues its mission to bring AI everywhere. We see the AI workload as a key driver of the $1 trillion semiconductor TAM by 2030. And given our foundry and product offerings, we're the only company able to participate in 100% of the TAM for AI silicon logic. We have already discussed how our 50-year heritage and high-performance computing transistors and our advanced packaging positions IFS to benefit from the accelerating move to AI.
Within our product portfolio, we are the only company with the products, IP and ecosystem reach to empower customers to seamlessly integrate and effectively run AI in all their applications from the cloud through the network, into the enterprise client and edge. For the developer working with multitrillion parameter frontier models in the cloud, Goudi and our suite of AI accelerators provides a powerful combination of performance, competitive MLPerf benchmarks, and leadership TCO. As AI proliferates and the world moves toward more AI-integrated application, there's a market shift toward local inferencing and smaller, more nimble models. It's a nod to both the necessity of data privacy and an answer to cloud-based inferencing cost and round-trip latency.
With AI-accelerated Xeon for enterprise, Core Ultra ushering in the AIPC era, and OpenVINO enabling developers seamless and versatile support for a range of clients and edge silicon, we are bringing AI to where the data is being generated and used rather than requiring it in the cloud. Our expansive footprint spanning cloud and enterprise servers to volume clients and ubiquitous edge devices positions us well to enable the AI continuum across all our market segments. In Q4, our server business experienced solid sequential growth, consistent with market share, which we believe was flat with Q3 levels. Since launching 4th Gen Xeon in early 2023, we have shipped more than 2.5 million units with approximately one-third of all 4th Gen demand driven by AI.
With our 5th Gen Xeon launch, we enable up to 42% higher AI inference performance, compared to the industry-leading 4th Gen Xeon. 5th Gen Xeon has reached general availability at Alibaba is entering public and private previews with several CSPs and is on track to ship with OEMs next month. More importantly, our improved execution is strengthening our product portfolio with Gen 4 and Gen 5 Xeon ramping well, Sierra Forest and Granite Rapids coming soon and Clearwater Forest already going into the fab. Momentum is building and positioning us well to win back share in the data center.
Our Gaudi2 AI accelerators...
Intel (INTC) Q4 2023 Earnings Call Transcript | The Motley Fool
INTC earnings call for the period ending December 31, 2023.
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I don't think Intel has a moat anymore.
They literally only make money because the competition isn't able to meet all the supply (mainly for laptops). They aren't a set leader in any category, lol...
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Think its dumb to be accumulating positions in IWM waiting for it to pop off interest rate reductions?
I've been trying to find the stocks that I want rather than just going all in on IWM. (Emphasis on trying.) I do own a bunch of it, though.
doing an experiment -
-bought 100 shares of SAVE for 597$ this morning -(5.97 a share)
-sold 6$ calls expiring today for 15 bucks premium,
-rolled it at 3pm to next friday for 58 bucks
-73$ profit, that's 12% of my initial investment back in a day….not sure how sustainable this is, but if i can get to 600 then ill be rolling with all houses money
i'll keep going until it blows up in my face 🤷♂️
-bought 100 shares of SAVE for 597$ this morning -(5.97 a share)
-sold 6$ calls expiring today for 15 bucks premium,
-rolled it at 3pm to next friday for 58 bucks
-73$ profit, that's 12% of my initial investment back in a day….not sure how sustainable this is, but if i can get to 600 then ill be rolling with all houses money
i'll keep going until it blows up in my face 🤷♂️
As long as 'Murica sees a need for homeshoring (threat of China invading Taiwan), I think Intel will keep benefiting from government investment. A risk here is if we get a Republican president unless Trump still has a hate boner for China 🥴 EDIT: https://www.theverge.com/2024/1/27/...-is-preparing-to-announce-chipmaker-subsidies 🤔
Long term, I'm bullish on the stock. There's going to be some pain in the meantime but I view this as Intel's AMD moment. I'm still waiting to see what Jim Keller cooked up before he left with his project rumored to release in 2025 or later. I'll bail if my Jim Keller hopium doesn't turn the ship around.
Are you familiar with "the wheel" strategy? https://www.reddit.com/r/thetagang/comments/lui6k9/complete_guide_to_trading_the_wheel_thetagang/
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yeah i did that in 2021 during the insane bull runs and made a pretty decent amount. the only issue is in a non bull market if the stock falls below your cost basis, the premiums dry up if you want to stay even on the execution price. so you have to use the modified cost basis to find new executions (original cost-total premiums earned/number of shares= new cost). but then if the stock jumps you miss out on profit
my sustainability comment comes from the situation with SAVE. what's unique about spirit airlines is, it's a 6$ stock giving out 80$ weekly premiums…. so i'm making 10%+ of my initial invest of 600 bucks (these are non earning week numbers). so that doesn't make sense. i might get out next week by just letting it execute, cause the numbers look fishy
I'd rather do it on something more "safe". And I would sell it slightly ITM and further out in time so you are collecting your investment back + all the extrinsic. For example you could buy write QQQ for two weeks out at ITM 420 strike for over $700. You are netting $400 in premium. That's ~$800/mo net. Granted you lose out on any QQQ gains but that's not the point of a high frequency bearish wheel strategy.
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There might be a bump in stock, it hasn't been able to hold value on earnings beats in the past though. Maybe that changes with profitability but I'm skeptical.
I'm expecting a drop as usual, but I just want shorts to be hurt badly. That's all.
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Jan 2024 MSFT vs AAPL 2.0 poll
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NEW POLL - NOTE MULTIPLE CHOICES AVAILABLE
Will they open green or red on Wednesday morning? Poll closes in the afternoon.
Will they open green or red on Wednesday morning? Poll closes in the afternoon.
Taxes make this a strategy that's not really viable, unless you're only up a very small percent and think it's going to really crash (>10%).
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That's valid if it's currently, or is planned to be, a long term hold. If it's a shorter term hold then the tax consideration is moot.
EDIT: Or in an IRA, as Chuck just mentioned.
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Yeah, that's true. Trade to your heart's content inside an IRA. I also HATE trying to time the market based on earnings, which sometimes act completely nonsensical and can turn on a dime.
That's my long term holding mindset right there.
buy a small rental property and it'll wash away all your tax woes. depreciation by itself will give you yearly 25k of paper loses for the next 27.5 years
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I guess by "the market" you mean the Mag 6?
Problem is they need to provide insane AI/cloud/ad guidance to validate the rally and let it continue. Otherwise we will get sideways movement with a few dips (see Apple). Earnings beat is already priced in.
Tragic the general populace won't see/understand that and give credit where credit is due :/
What the USA has thus far pulled off is insane.
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Fed day tomorrow.
So we have MS, AMD and Google this afternoon, Fed tomorrow, then Apple, Amazon and Meta on Thursday.
Advance market preview:
So we have MS, AMD and Google this afternoon, Fed tomorrow, then Apple, Amazon and Meta on Thursday.
Advance market preview:
This coming from Ken Griffith of Citadel is downright shocking, because Citadel loves to short TSLA typically. Makes me wonder if Citadel is loading up now:
View: https://twitter.com/thejefflutz/status/1752358277541757137?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1752358277541757137%7Ctwgr%5Ec35a20fac087d8e46d730ffba161790fa92742a8%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fteslamotorsclub.com%2Ftmc%2Fthreads%2Ftesla-tsla-the-investment-world-the-perpetual-investors-roundtable.139047%2Fpage-22125
View: https://twitter.com/thejefflutz/status/1752358277541757137?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1752358277541757137%7Ctwgr%5Ec35a20fac087d8e46d730ffba161790fa92742a8%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fteslamotorsclub.com%2Ftmc%2Fthreads%2Ftesla-tsla-the-investment-world-the-perpetual-investors-roundtable.139047%2Fpage-22125
is this what's pushing tesla up?
the recovery is ahead of schedule and fucking up sold calls. i did 205 last week, rolled it to 207.5 this week, but the stocks recovering too quick
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I saw news earlier about positive China sales.
Also, it was oversold, down 30% in a month. I was buying calls yesterday morning based on giving it a couple days to settle down after the earnings drop, which allows the implied volatility to drop a bit, also it wasn't making new lows by then. All pointed to a rebound imo.
There's a big gap to fill to $207.
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Re Fed day tomorrow, market now pricing in basically 0% chance of a cut tomorrow, 40% chance of one cut in March, 55% chance of one cut by May and 30% chance of two cuts.