Lots of great new stuff.
It's too bad that we didn't get a whole new style, but World Builder is awesome.
It's too bad that we didn't get a whole new style, but World Builder is awesome.
Super Mario Maker 2 is getting its final update. Will add World Maker mode on 4/22 + insane amount of other new stuff
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A game like Super Mario Maker can still excel after the fact if the updates are good. This one is incredible, who knows, maybe it starts to do better. I am sad it got less than a year of updates.
I am surprised Nintendo actually made the World Maker mode. I always thought they'd be too afraid of people just being able to remake old games in their entirety while at the same time making the prospect of new 2D Marios less exciting. Very cool, even if it ends up limited to only 8 worlds per profile.
Can you really do paid dlc on a game like this, though?
It's not like a fighter where you can play against a newcomer but not as them, and I don't think they could separate levels online as easily as in MK8.
That looks awesome. I haven't checked in one the game in a while, but I definitely want to see what people do with this stuff.
It's disappointing that SMB2 never got its own separate style, that seemed like a given. Hopefully the SMB2 mushroom comes with the music!
It's disappointing that SMB2 never got its own separate style, that seemed like a given. Hopefully the SMB2 mushroom comes with the music!
This is gonna be the real shit, where I can play a series of levels from good content creators in a more digestible format. Great fucking update!
I almost cried watching the map part of that video, I've been wanting this since day one of the original game. Arguably I've been wanting this for something like 30 years, ever since I started drawing Mario levels in graph pads. It's just too bad this came out so late, there's no way I'm going to build up the initiative to actually exploit it as much as I wish I would. But grade school Tathanen is smiling.
I think the only things I was really hoping for that are truly missing now are:
- The remaining missing Power-Ups from each theme (Tanooki Suit, Hammer Suit, Ice Flower, Penguin Suit and Mini Mushroom)
- Some additional enemies (Chargin' Chuck, Swoop, Fuzzy, Scuttlebug, Ptooie)
- A full SMB2 theme (shame various circumstances led to this being scrapped, if Imran's info is correct)
- More Crossover Power-Ups (was really hoping for Kirby in SMB3 and Samus in SMW)
Nintendo doesn't care about stuff like that. They'll announce games when they want to.
I wonder if the SMB2 mechanics are recycled from a planned official SMB2 mode that got scrapped.
Welcome to Mario Maker updates, est. 2015, you're late though.
No, it's not a joke. I'm deadass serious, it's weird AF to me that we only got like two content updates and they're stopping, while with MM1 we got tons more with lots of mystery mushrooms to unlock, nintendo themed courses around them, and the fly minigame getting upgraded. MM2 had a beefy single player campaign, a very fun (tho laggy) online race mode, and a lot more creation tools to mess around with. But I can't help but feel it had stuff scaled back a tiny bit from the original?
Like woo, Nintendo took too many months to add friend races or the link costume from Mario Maker 1 (only now he can attack). Then this update comes and it's the biggest and coolest update so far! But it's also the last one. Literally right as the updates got big, they ended them. I was hoping for quarterly updates or something, maybe until the end of the year where they could add a bunch of cool stuff like some more costumes or the Game Boy games as styles, or heck, the return of the Mystery Mushroom costumes, even without fancy gimmicks or attacks. I'm still kinda shocked they just killed off that feature even if I find the single player a suitable content replacement due to how many levels there are (very good ones at that!)
But IDK. Should it be a crime that I was hoping for more updates like this, or paid DLC? My friend and I had a blast over the summer, taking turns to 100 everything, then when the first update hit we played for like two hours and didn't bother doing much because there was little of substance and the speedruns weren't really as solid as the core single player levels. We were waiting for new styles or some new Online MP features before we would jump back in... and we only got pieces of one and not much to the online MP itself. I do think though, that we'll spend more time taking turns racing online than with update 1, since all the new powerups and such means crazier levels and thus more renewed fun to race online. ...Whenever my friend is willing to come over to my house again that is.
But IDK. I just remember constantly playing MM1 for hours on end with every update and mystery mushroom batch, trying to hunt them down or play themed levels around them (And I STILL never got them all, which means I can at least go back and work more towards getting them all in 1). But with 2 it feels like they cut it off super early, revive it out of the blue only to finish it off way too early. I can't fathom them making a Mario Maker 3 on the Switch, so what gives? Maybe it's because of how long these updates took to come out to begin with, but it just feels all odd to me, and it's perfectly understandable to be bummed that MM2's support is lesser than Mario Maker 1 in some ways.
Hot damn, I never thought they'd add a map maker, let alone put it into online because let's face it, the commitment of playing through a randos entire slew of stages is unlikely to be seen through.
Definitely an option where you stick fully to recommendations I imagine.
Power ups are more my jam here, and one for each style to, been waiting on the frog suit for tonks, super acorn feels like it should've been in at launch on the original WiiU game and have they gone and made the P balloon actually fun?! Can't wait, this stuff is hype!
Definitely an option where you stick fully to recommendations I imagine.
Power ups are more my jam here, and one for each style to, been waiting on the frog suit for tonks, super acorn feels like it should've been in at launch on the original WiiU game and have they gone and made the P balloon actually fun?! Can't wait, this stuff is hype!
I think so along with the Cursed Key. Pretty likely they decided it was worth more to work on the new 2D Mario so it can be ready next year.
They probably chose the propeller suit over the super acorn back in mm1 so it would be more distinct from the cape.
I just want it to be fun to play content from creators. SMM2 hasn't really had great stuff from the user created side, it probably exists but I'm not seeing/playing them. Hope this shines more light on great levels to play
There goes any hope they'd add more themes. People were super insistent that because the 3D World theme was in its own category, more stuff would be added to that category as DLC.
One thing that is still missing to me though, music, more music!
Always felt like another wheel of handheld themes made perfect sense, we don't even have the standard NSMB theme
Always felt like another wheel of handheld themes made perfect sense, we don't even have the standard NSMB theme
With the ability to make world maps you will see a lot more quality worlds. One maker I follow who makes incredible levels in a a world style structure. He is 100% going to upload his levels in this world maker. Once it drops if you pop by MakerEra you'll see a lot of incredible projects. Also reddit. And I have a list of Makers to follow on Era with really high quality content.
WHAT THE EVERLIVING FUCK. I'm already losing it at Mario 2 Mushroom, Frog Suit and freaking Koopalings, and the video isn't halfway through. :O
More music and more backgrounds would have been such easy wins. That said, they said it's the last major update but we may get some surprises especially if sales pick up.
How can it be scaled down when at launch it had pretty much all the same features and more and then later added even more.
No, it's just dumb, if the game updates are always free asking for paid DLC is asking for being scammed and that shouldn't be normalized.
Probably cut short to move manpower elsewhere. Employees working from home definitely changed a lot in terms of development.
Doesn't help that MM2 probably didn't sell as well as they thought it would.
I agree 1000%.
The update looks great but the fact that it's the final one really blows.
Less than a years worth of support? Really?
Media Molecule were releasing new updates to LBP2 like 4 years after release.
The fact that we're never going to get any new styles is such a massive disappointment.
I don't get what's with this narrative that it didn't sell as well as they expected when in a few months it surpassed the original game's sales.
