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The master hand battle in this game should just keep going on and on until its revealed that Sandbag was in control the whole time. They've been using the cast as a punching bag. What a twist!
I want the Waluigi == master hand meme to become true so badly.

Partly because it will mean Waluigi will never be playable
 

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Are the people playing in the stream getting anything for winning these free for all? Many are just winning by running away and projectile camping. lol

Kinda tryhard for 4 player free for all with items on.

At least those games have the slim justification of being medieval fantasy and being Japanese developed where cousin marriage is legal.

There's no excuse for sister-fucking like in Fates.
They're not blood siblings. Anyway, incest implications were always a thing in FE.
 

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If you like amputee hands and a voice that sounds like the Marge Simpsons sisters

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Abadango got a win right now.

edit: and he just lost the 3rd match he needed killing himself in a fake smash ball. lol
 
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Apopheniac

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that new walky bomber seems... pretty damn strong

not gonna fun dealing with those in single-player
 

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Pichu's grab seems significantly buffed (from Reddit)
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It now leans forward and extends its arm out, giving it increased range compared to its pretty crap range in Melee.
 

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So I read that there's supposed to be another tourney on the 22nd? Is it another JP stream?
 

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Pichu's looking less and less like a joke charater and more like a proper glass cannon.

Jigglypuff mains on suicide watch.
 

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Didn't Wolf in Brawl have cloned moves for his aerials & smash attacks, but not from Fox, rather from other characters?

This kind of "Frankenstein cloning" would be good, if only Shadow could get Mewtwo's teleport.
 

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Didn't Wolf in Brawl have cloned moves for his aerials & smash attacks, but not from Fox, rather from other characters?

This kind of "Frankenstein cloning" would be good, if only Shadow could get Mewtwo's teleport.
So he could teleport out of Smash and into PS All-Stars, a game more suitable for a character of his caliber?

But more seriously, I'd be down for Frankenstein clones.
 

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So he could teleport out of Smash and into PS All-Stars, a game more suitable for a character of his caliber?

But more seriously, I'd be down for Frankenstein clones.
I'm just saying Shadow as an example because people now want him for some reason.

It's weird. I don't even want him. And I thought no one really wanted him either. But when Echo Fighters happened, coincidently Shadow is now in Top 2 Echo Fighter requests. I guess people want a joke character and couldn't get Waluigi?
 

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It's weird, since making Shadow an echo would actually be pretty inconsistent with his character. Sonic doesn't use any guns in his attacks, so it wouldn't suit Shadow to be just an echo, given how firearms are a key part of his identity. He'd have to be a semi-clone at least.
 

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I'm just saying Shadow as an example because people now want him for some reason.

It's weird. I don't even want him. And I thought no one really wanted him either. But when Echo Fighters happened, coincidently Shadow is now in Top 2 Echo Fighter requests. I guess people want a joke character and couldn't get Waluigi?
Just to play devil's advocate, Shadow actually is a popular character and in his own games he's usually identical mechanically to Sonic, if he's playable. He's basically the perfect candidate to be an echo.
 

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Pichu's grab seems significantly buffed (from Reddit)
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GHfRNHu.gif


It now leans forward and extends its arm out, giving it increased range compared to its pretty crap range in Melee.

Since we cant see the hitbox we dont know it its buffed or reduced. Pichus grab in Melee was already better than Pikachus despite appearances. In the above gif hes grabbing a whole body length in front of him because his arms are so short, so they could just be animating it to better represent the range rather than having it invisible. (Pikachu in Smash 4 grabs very similarly to this animation)

Theres also the possibility that this is a whiff animation and theres no active hitbox.
 
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It's weird, since making Shadow an echo would actually be pretty inconsistent with his character. Sonic doesn't use any guns in his attacks, so it wouldn't suit Shadow to be just an echo, given how firearms are a key part of his identity. He'd have to be a semi-clone at least.

It would be like taking guns from a baby, which is fine by me.
 

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It's weird, since making Shadow an echo would actually be pretty inconsistent with his character. Sonic doesn't use any guns in his attacks, so it wouldn't suit Shadow to be just an echo, given how firearms are a key part of his identity. He'd have to be a semi-clone at least.
The majority of Shadow's playable appearances, he's identical, or nearly identical, to Sonic for his abilities.
 

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I mean personally Shadow has so many moves that would be original, that Shadow being an Echo would be like if Dixie was Echo. It would be huge disservice to the character.

Although guns really aren't his identity, those were more one game deal.
 

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I mean personally Shadow has so many moves that would be original, that Shadow being an Echo would be like if Dixie was Echo. It would be huge disservice to the character.

Although guns really aren't his identity, those were more one game deal.

I mean it's either he gets in as an echo fighter or he doesn't at all, same thing with Dark Samus.

They're not gonna put too much effort into a secondary third party character.
 

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The majority of Shadow's playable appearances, he's identical, or nearly identical, to Sonic.

Yet his starring role, that he is best known for, he uses guns. It's safe for everyone to admit at this point, when they think Shadow the Hedgehog, they think guns. It would simply be unfaithful to make him playable without his iconic pump-action machine gun.

Another issue is that Shadow is well known to use foul language, so they may have to tone him down a bit for Smash. It begs the question though, is it really Shadow if he can't say "Damn!"?
 

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Yet his starring role, that he is best known for, he uses guns. It's safe for everyone to admit at this point, when they think Shadow the Hedgehog, they think guns. It would simply be unfaithful to make him playable without his iconic pump-action machine gun.

Another issue is that Shadow is well known to use foul language, so they may have to tone him down a bit for Smash. It begs the question though, is it really Shadow if he can't say "Damn!"?
Honestly, I would say Adventure 2 is Shadow's most famous appearance.
 

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Yet his starring role, that he is best known for, he uses guns. It's safe for everyone to admit at this point, when they think Shadow the Hedgehog, they think guns. It would simply be unfaithful to make him playable without his iconic pump-action machine gun.

Another issue is that Shadow is well known to use foul language, so they may have to tone him down a bit for Smash. It begs the question though, is it really Shadow if he can't say "Damn!"?
after memoryman and cybersai it's really hard to know who's joking or not
 

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Yet his starring role, that he is best known for, he uses guns. It's safe for everyone to admit at this point, when they think Shadow the Hedgehog, they think guns. It would simply be unfaithful to make him playable without his iconic pump-action machine gun.

Another issue is that Shadow is well known to use foul language, so they may have to tone him down a bit for Smash. It begs the question though, is it really Shadow if he can't say "Damn!"?
I still think Shadow's most well known appearance is Sonic Adventure 2, where he premiered. And arguably, not even the DC original version, but the GCN port. Maybe that's because I've never played Shadow's game, though. SA2 was the first Sonic game on a Nintendo console. It was a huge deal, and being a launch title on the GCN certainly didn't hurt, either. It was all over Nintendo Power, all over the Internet. Future Sonic games would continue to heavily reference SA2, and future Sonic ports and games would implement SA2:Battle features into them (like SA:DX). For Shadow's boss fight in Generations, it was SA2 that was what they went with, not Shadow the Hedgehog.

That was the game that cemented Shadow in people's minds as a popular character. Shadow (the game) was created because Shadow was already iconic and very popular.

And Shadow hasn't used guns or swore in almost 15 years, and yet the character keeps being used and remains very popular. I don't really think it's as much a part of the character as you think.
 

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Yeah, Shadow is sounding more and more inappropriate in Smash. Wouldn't be surprised if they cut him out of the game altogether now.
 

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Another issue is that Shadow is well known to use foul language, so they may have to tone him down a bit for Smash. It begs the question though, is it really Shadow if he can't say "Damn!"?
the alt for Falcon now says "Hell Hawk," so that shouldn't be an issue

I think having Shadow say "damn" was implemented first, and then when they got away with that they realized they could change the alt as well
 
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