Demon Slayer is literally in the middle of the final battle right now. It's ending soon for sure.
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SuperEyepatchWolf: The Current State of Shonen Jump 2020
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I believe its ending, but outside of that small quote from last year jump hasn't said much.
A Jump issue from a month ago reiterated we were at the end. Then a color page saying "Final Battle" was made for a recent chapter. The popularity boost has not affected the commitment to end in any clear way.
The manga, and franchise overall, will keep selling and making money after it ends anyway.
Yeah, I misspoke. I meant that the record will get surpassed, and then some. I could possibly see KnY hitting 60 million this year. Maybe, possibly.
I mean shit it sold 24 million in 13 weeks of "2020" tracking. It's been doing stupid unprecedented numbers for a while now.
THE FUTURE IS HERE, THE FUTURE IS HERE, THE FUTURE IS HERE, THE FUTURE....
I don't think so. Most of this surge is backlog sales for all 19 existing volumes. That can't continue indefinitely, and it can't keep happening forever either. It's why I don't actually see the movie having that big of an impact at this point, because it'll likely be saturated by that point
Spy x Family is amazing and it stinks that it's not a weekly series :( Seriously such a great series that everyone needs to check out!
It's showing no signs of slowing down, though.
Once it slows down you can argue that, but Jump is purposely under-printing volumes, to enhance demand. So far it's working.
See, that's why I don't like Viz, their translations are off. It's supposed to be: "THE FUTURE IS BEST!"
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Okay, better, but still not great. Viz's translations always sound so awkward.
Chainsawman and Jujutsu Kaisen are the next big thing. Chainsawman especially is my favourite manga running right now.
It has all the things I liked about fire punch and switches or tones down the things I didn't like with more shonen-esque themes. So it's pretty much perfect.
It has all the things I liked about fire punch and switches or tones down the things I didn't like with more shonen-esque themes. So it's pretty much perfect.
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True, but I would be incredibly shocked to see Kimetsu collapse upon itself like that shit fire did.
Promised Neverland went bat shit insane in terms of direction and I use that term in the pejorative sense.
Jumps current fresh blood situation is quite bad, at the moment 4 of it's non-new series are wrapping up and should be done within 6 months (We Never Learn within this month, Demon Slayer, Haiykuu and Neverland anywhere from 2 to 6 months depending on how they want to play it). Of it's current new series here is the knowledge we have:
Samurai 8: Sales of the vol are pitiful, always in the bottom 3 of weekly rankings of ToC (yes, ToC is not a good standard on its own, but generally paints a simliar picture when bundled with sales data)
Yozakura-san: Vol 1 failed to chart in top 50 in first and 2nd weeks of sales, estimated by Shoseki* (French blogger who extensibility covers oricon weekly sales, these are the best "data" we have for anything that fails to make top 50) to sell 11K first week and another 2.5K the 2nd week (so better then Samurai 8's sales of it's first vol at least). Generally been stuck in the bottom 4 of the ToC.
Mitama Security: Vol 1 failed to chart in top 50 in first and 2nd weeks of sales, estimated by Shoseki to have sold 5K in it's first week and didn't bother giving a number for the 2nd week. Generally been found towards the middle to the bottom middle of the pack in ToC, while it being a gag manga should give it some more leeway when it comes to sales...I don't think even a gag manga can survive on those supposed sales.
Zipman!: No Vols have been released yet. ToC info is....bad, already has begun to claim the last place spot that was held by Samurai 8 the past month.
Agravity Boys: Either 2 or 3 weeks worth of ToC info (still can never remember how double issues mess with it) has shown it already stuck in the bottom half and trending into the bottom 5 rankings.
The rest of the newcomers are way too early to even have data on....though I can't see 2 of those 3 (the knight and witch one maybe depending on its direction, if it can capture the adventure shounen audience well) surviving past a year in the magazine. Jump doesn't need a newcommer that is a hit out of the gates like Neverland was, but it needs a few series that aren't dead on arrival.
Samurai 8: Sales of the vol are pitiful, always in the bottom 3 of weekly rankings of ToC (yes, ToC is not a good standard on its own, but generally paints a simliar picture when bundled with sales data)
Yozakura-san: Vol 1 failed to chart in top 50 in first and 2nd weeks of sales, estimated by Shoseki* (French blogger who extensibility covers oricon weekly sales, these are the best "data" we have for anything that fails to make top 50) to sell 11K first week and another 2.5K the 2nd week (so better then Samurai 8's sales of it's first vol at least). Generally been stuck in the bottom 4 of the ToC.
Mitama Security: Vol 1 failed to chart in top 50 in first and 2nd weeks of sales, estimated by Shoseki to have sold 5K in it's first week and didn't bother giving a number for the 2nd week. Generally been found towards the middle to the bottom middle of the pack in ToC, while it being a gag manga should give it some more leeway when it comes to sales...I don't think even a gag manga can survive on those supposed sales.
Zipman!: No Vols have been released yet. ToC info is....bad, already has begun to claim the last place spot that was held by Samurai 8 the past month.
Agravity Boys: Either 2 or 3 weeks worth of ToC info (still can never remember how double issues mess with it) has shown it already stuck in the bottom half and trending into the bottom 5 rankings.
The rest of the newcomers are way too early to even have data on....though I can't see 2 of those 3 (the knight and witch one maybe depending on its direction, if it can capture the adventure shounen audience well) surviving past a year in the magazine. Jump doesn't need a newcommer that is a hit out of the gates like Neverland was, but it needs a few series that aren't dead on arrival.
I fear Demon Slayer's future tbh. Not because I would dislike it continuing myself, but I feel like the manga-ka is going to get coerced into continuing the series. Muzan doesn't HAVE to be the finale villain afterall. They could explore the history of demonkind and the Demon Slayer Corps and all of that neat stuff.
Of course I'm not caught up so maybe they already have. XD
Of course I'm not caught up so maybe they already have. XD
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Jump seems to be giving Yozakura Family and Miitama Security some leeway, as they recently got color pages. That tends to be an indicator of what they want to stick around.
Undead X Unluck might be sticking around. An official Twitter page was opened, and it mentioned that fan demand has resulted in the first volume rushing out the door in April.
Undead X Unluck might be sticking around. An official Twitter page was opened, and it mentioned that fan demand has resulted in the first volume rushing out the door in April.
It would've been the 3rd week for Agravity Boys, but it's hard to say how it ranks overall, since there are 3 unranked series in Guardian of the Witch, Mashle Magic and Muscles, and Undead Unluck. Then there were color pages for things like Mitama Secutity Spirit Busters and Mission Yozakura Family. It is a rung above the lowest crop though, typically hanging around Act Age and Jujutsu Taisen.
Mitama Security Spirit Busters volume sales are bad, but it seems to be doing well in the magazine itself, usually in the top 10. It even got 2 chapters (as well as a color page) this week. It is a gag series, so it'll probably be around for that alone.
Undead Unluck is early on and unranked, but it seems to be blowing up as well. It got its first volume solicited super fast. Would not be surprised to see this in the top 10 when it is ranked.
I understand it's different people doing it so I don't blame any individual but, just from my perspective cause I keep up with it, it's become tiring to see the same "would Demon Slayer actually end tho?" knowing that they've kept reiterating it will lol. And also Jump generally doesn't demand authors stretch their successful series anymore apparently.
Prediction:
No One Piece volume will be in the 2020 yearly top 20 best-selling volume as estimated by Oricon
Or, another way to put it would be to say that every single Demon Slayer volume (volume 1 to 20) will sell more in 2020 (Nov 2019 to Nov 2020) that any OP volume.
No One Piece volume will be in the 2020 yearly top 20 best-selling volume as estimated by Oricon
Or, another way to put it would be to say that every single Demon Slayer volume (volume 1 to 20) will sell more in 2020 (Nov 2019 to Nov 2020) that any OP volume.
With the sales of the latest two DS volumes + the backlog + movie, I can see it.
Where I'm at. I had literally 0 interest in the Demon Slayer manga even after watching the amazing anime because... man, I've been too burned by a lifetime of reading shonen battle manga that take years to resolve a single arc. I just want stories to end these days and get what they want to say, said and done. OP might be the exception but that's because it focuses heavily on building a colossal world. Anyways, when I found out DS was ending I went 100% on board because now I can feel invested in these characters and world without knowing in the back of my mind it won't really go anywhere, or if it does it will take until I'm in an old age home.
Life is simply too short for long running shonen these days, for me at least.
Jump has definitely floundered in the past couple of years...most of the new series are really bad. One Piece has been on a godly run recently, though.
To put my prediction into perspective.
OP volume 95 is very likely to be the best selling volume of the year. It's tracking significantly behind the first volume of 2019, vol 91 which did 2.4m, and similarly to volume 92 which came out in March and did 2.1m. As such I believe it could reach 2.2m in 2020, since it came out in late December.
Right now, the best selling backlog volume of DS is volume 1 which sold 1.24m. The worst selling backlog volume is volume 17 which sold 1.15m. They basically need to sell around 1m more each to achieve that. Meaning they are already more than halfway there.
Volume 20 is not scheduled yet, so it won't come out in March or April. So May sounds fair (it looks like they are trying to slow down the volume release more than they need to). A 3 month gap would put volume 21 in August and Volume 22 in November.
Volume 17 came out in October and has sold a bit under 2.1m in 4 months. So I don't quite think an August volume 21 could beat OP volume 95, meaning DS will "only" get a top 20 instead of a top 21.
I do think that Kimetsu ending isn't a terrible thing, better to go out on top and to make things sharp and exciting without drawing it all out as long as possible. My only disappointment is that I thought we'd get an arc with each member of the pillars, which is kind of how things started out. A whole arc teaming up with Iguro or Himejima would have been sick.
I dropped it over the MC's dream of titties. There's a lot of things to read and watch these days, so I'd rather not spend time on junk like that.
The recent flashback arc in One Piece has been next level, though...I'd actually be surprised if One Piece volumes didn't blow up even bigger this year.
Yeah, but as SuperEyepatchWolf stated in the video, it goes beyond that.
I absolutely hated that aspect too.
Sales =/= Quality
An above average arc is not what drives sales. Movies, promo, anime adaptations are. And I don't think anyone considers volume 66-67 (the fastest selling OP volumes, that cover the end of Fishman Island/The beginning of Punk Hazard) as the best OP volumes quality-wise.
One Piece has been declining in terms of sales since its peak in 2011.
The only thing that has managed to slow that down are the movies (Z, Gold, Stampede). But as seen with Stampede, that only lasts for a single volume (Volume 93 came out alongside Stampede and outsold volume 92 in a shorter time span. Yet, volume 94, and then 95, kept the downward trend that 92 had, as if 93/Stampede never happened).
what happened that was so bad? I dropped it not long after the first arc
It's hard to describe without going face first into spoilers.
That's fair.
Definitely shouldn't put yourself through a bunch of degenerate crap.
Denji changes, but he (and everyone else) are still bad people.
