Supreme Court overturns Roe v Wade (See Staff Post)

[djplaeskool]

Question for people who might know better: I know this does not help people who don't have the means to do this but is it legal for someone in one of the states where this is banned to travel to a state where it is legal to get an abortion?

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At this point, yes. Some states, like Missouri, have already hinted at trying to halt travel for abortion, however freedom of interstate movement (unless bound or prevented via incarceration or other legal decree on an individual basis) is guaranteed in the constitution. States will probably also try to prevent outside organizations from providing travel assistance.

 

[MasterChumly]

How does it always end up with both being fault. As if there's no dems fighting against.

Honestly xir that's just stupid.

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Pay them no attention. They are probably happy roe was overturned. Otherwise they wouldn't be so lazy and would get out and vote for people that support the right to abortion

 

[pink]

What is with all the infighting that's what got us in this mess, now is the time to unify and take control back.

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🤝

 

[ezekial45]

Thomas will protect his own marriage ;)

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"Freedom for me, not for thee!"

The rich and privileged will continue to do whatever they want. I'm sure there's tons of congressmen and powerful people in right-wing states that continue to push for abortions and other outlawed things in private.

 

[Pokémon]

Religiously motivated lawmaking should be enough to warrant firing some of those judges. Separation of church and state should be protected for all costs.

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I hate that more and more countries are trying to revert that separation.

 

[Seventh Swordsman]

This is a fucking travesty

 

[Deleted member 8257]

Except we just had 4 years of a President who used the bully pulpit quite literally as a BULLY pulpit, and he didn't get even half his agenda passed.

So no, that's not how it's always been done.

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Come on. Trump couldn't fucking get people to play at a Casino on the Boardwalk, and went bankrupt. There was no way he could convince anyone.

When people say Bully Pulpit, they usually refer to Teddy Roosevelt and LBJ. Even Abraham Lincoln for that matter.

 

[VorpalNonsense]

Supreme court obviously doesnt work.

Nobody gets voted in by the people, everyone is appointed kings for life, no actual rule about how many there should be, and presidents just take advantage of lucky openings to enforce partisan rule. Like how the fuck is this even remotely acceptable? Kindergarten classrooms are more tightly managed than this dumb luck shitstorm.

A reasonable government should not have such an important aspect of their function devised about as well as your kid neighbor's treehouse club.

With shit this broken dems should just take advantage of the complete systemic failure to pack the court until somebody decides to make the rules make any amount of sense.

 

[Astronut325]

This will only get worse if the Republicans gain control of the senate again. The left needs to vote every election, not just presidential elections, every election. That includes your local city/state elections too.

This was said and done when Trump won. The first course of action is to prevent further erosion of rights. They seem to be set on I doing almost all landmark rulings of the last decade or two.

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So much could have been done to prevent this. This is a result of a perfect storm.
- The Dem leadership thinking the right wing leadership was acting in good faith in the Obama years.
- People thinking Trump winning would be a good thing to spite the left for not meeting promises.
- Justices not retiring when they should have.

 

[Lightning Count]

I'm talking about assassination attempts on Republicans.

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Much more likely the republican voters start taking shots at Dems. Kamala, AOC and Ilhan Omar in particular.

 

[entremet]

Supreme court obviously doesnt work.

Nobody gets voted in, everyone is appointed kings for life, no actual rule about how many there should be, and presidents just take advantage of lucky openings to enforce partisan rule. Like how the fuck is this even remotely acceptable? Kindergarten classrooms are more tightly managed than this dumb luck shitstorm.

A reasonable government should not have such an important aspect of their function devised about as well as your kid neighbor's treehouse club.

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The all knowing Founders messed up, right?

If only there was a functional way to amend the Constitution? It's nearly impossible now.

 

[BFIB]

Never leaving Illinois now.

 

[Figments]

If we can't even manage a basic coalition because we turn on each other the second we don't get what we want, we will NEVER take power back from the right wing. At the end of the day, that is the problem - the right wing coalition is completely unshakeable, whereas the left wing collapses in on itself like a black hole with infighting whenever it matters most for us to be unified.

Don't vote for Democrats. Vote for whatever stops Republicans from having a majority. And in a two-party system, that means voting for Democrats to vote AGAINST Republicans. A third party is not going to ever build enough of a coalition to break the Republican wall.

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i didn't say "vote third party". the mitigation of evil is a valid reason to continue voting democrat, but to pretend that democrats haven't been in a position of being able to address any of the Actual Concerns of people in this country, even ignoring the fact that democrats do nothing to slide the scale back towards the left (hell they barely do anything to slide the scale back towards "the middle"), is disingenuous at best and blatantly lying at worst.

 

[Deleted member 47700]

Republicans are absolute fucking scum.

 

[Thordinson]

The Senate and governor hold power. You can't change the law without the lower legislature, which won't flip in the near future. But flipping the state ad the federal and governor level would definitely help

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The Governor in Texas holds little power compared to the Lt. Governor. Cornyn didn't win by a tight margin. Cruz is unlikeable so he might lose but this does nothing for folks now.

 

[Bushido]

Feeling really sorry for every sane person (and particularly girls/women) in the US, absolutely abhorrent to see and it looks like it's just gonna get worse and worse. Beyond fucked up...

 

[Deleted member 9241]

Abortion will be banned in Michigan ASAP. The Jane collective needs to come back, which is unfucking real in 2022.

 

[Goat Mimicry]

Question for people who might know better: I know this does not help people who don't have the means to do this but is it legal for someone in one of the states where this is banned to travel to a state where it is legal to get an abortion?

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Depends on the state, but some red states are already accounting for that loophole.

 

[Deleted member 2802]

 

[andymcc]

Why, they are reaping what they sow.

Fuck that country, go somewhere more civilized.

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go fuck yourself you piece of shit

 

[Volimar]

Ohio about to make abortion illegal I'd guarantee

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He's only been hesitant in the past because of businesses in the state. But with a SCOTUS ruling, it likely gives the Republicans here all the cover they need.

 

[4CornersTHSA]

Mitch McConnell should never have been allowed to pull his bullshit in 2016. It is the express duty of the Senate to vote on Supreme Court appointees.

He has almost single handedly ruined civil rights in America.

 

[evrythngwastakn]

Who know trump was referring to his own country when he talked about shit holes!

 

[maigret]

Question for people who might know better: I know this does not help people who don't have the means to do this but is it legal for someone in one of the states where this is banned to travel to a state where it is legal to get an abortion?

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Depends on the state. Missouri for instance has made it so anyone who is involved in an out-of-state abortion (where it is legal) can be sued in Missouri state court.

 

[yogurt]

What is with all the infighting that's what got us in this mess, now is the time to unify and take control back.

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No no, this is the perfect time to blame the Democrats! Don't you see! It's the most productive thing to do!

This feels like an inflection point :(

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One of many we're sure to face in the next few years.

 

[Cerulean_skylark]

So if the electoral college exists and is undemocratic, how is voting harder gonna fix it? It's not a democratic institution

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There are states that have razor thin competitive margins, ie: the traditionally blue leaning midwestern states that swung to Trump

 

[ZeroMaverick]

y'all ain't talking about tearing this shit down, tho

 

[ned_ballad]

i didn't say "vote third party". the mitigation of evil is a valid reason to continue voting democrat, but to pretend that democrats haven't been in a position of being able to address any of the Actual Concerns of people in this country, even ignoring the fact that democrats do nothing to slide the scale back towards the left (hell they barely do anything to slide the scale back towards "the middle"), is disingenuous at best and blatantly lying at worst.

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Over half the states in this country still have legal abortion after this ruling thanks to Democrats

 

[KtotheRoc]

Any word on the situation when the pregnancy is outside the uterus so both mom and child are destined to die, if no abortion is performed?

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They'll both die.

 

[Psittacus]

Now democrats will eat themselves because the only thing that can change ANGTHING is to keep voting democrats. Which is the one thing democrats hate doing.

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The Democrats will never make the changes to the political system required to fix America because it's not in their best interests. If there was ever a time post the ink drying on the Constitution to fix the electoral system I fear it's long past.

Time to do what you can to exit this country if you're able and have the means - it's a lost cause. Christian minority theocracy is the future (and present) of this shithole. They're coming for everything.

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Shit like this is why the Puritans got tossed out of England.

 

[NookSports]

This feels like an inflection point :(

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It is, but it can go either way if people vote

 

[Rampage]

Obama had 60 senators caucusing with Democrats for 4 months. He never had 60 pro-choice senators. At least 2 Dems were openly pro-life and there were others from red/purple states that probably wouldn't have supported changing the status quo on abortion.

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Yeah, that is what I thought. And he lost that majority because of his push for the Affordable Care Act.

Did (Bill) Clinton every have enough?

 

[pink]

This will only get worse if the Republicans gain control of the senate again. The left needs to vote every election, not just presidential elections, every election. That includes your local city/state elections too.

This was said and done when Trump won. The first course of action is to prevent further erosion of rights. They seem to be set on I doing almost all landmark rulings of the last decade or two.

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literally this

vote, people

 

[PlanetSmasher]

i didn't say "vote third party". the mitigation of evil is a valid reason to continue voting democrat, but to pretend that democrats haven't been in a position of being able to address any of the Actual Concerns of people in this country, even ignoring the fact that democrats do nothing to slide the scale back towards the left (hell they barely do anything to slide the scale back towards "the middle"), is disingenuous at best and blatantly lying at worst.

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The entire democratic majority is held up by two scumbags who never do a fucking thing when it counts. We need a much larger majority in the legislative wing of the government to be able to pass any meaningful legislation. You know this. As long as our entire political platform hinges on Manchin and Sinema, we have no actual power.

 

[bbg_g]

Man seeing what is happening in the US is terrifying. Also as a Canadian I see we're going down the same route if we don't actively work together for progress.

Remember rights are fought for, not given. Get to the streets and protest!

 

[maximumzero]

This seems a very rational thing to be angry about.

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Fair.

What keeps echoing in my head is the speech my mother was giving me this weekend about the state of this country and how worried she is for my daughter's future, citing transgender individuals trying to "groom" children plus the other usual conservative talking points.

And yeah, I'm worried about her future now, but for a completely opposite reason than she was implying.

 

[Slappy White]

Never leaving Illinois now.

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Same.

 

[yogurt]

Nothin's wrong but thanks for asking.

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Having zero empathy for others is concerning. Enjoy your victory lap though, I guess.

 

[Ensorcell]

Also now in purple states like Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, the legality of abortion is probably going to change on an election by election cycle. Confused times ahead! How wonderful!

 

[LegendofJoe]

The Governor in Texas holds little power compared to the Lt. Governor. Cornyn didn't win by a tight margin. Cruz is unlikeable so he might lose.

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I wasn't saying the chances were good (especially for TX), but there's at least a puncher's chance in several states. My state definitely isn't one of them unfortunately.

 

[Volimar]

Abortion will be banned in Michigan ASAP. The Jane collective needs to come back, which is unfucking real in 2022.

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They got the votes to override Whitmer?

 

[Inyourprime]

People need to start realizing that neither party cares about you. It's all talk to get elected and further their own lives.

Country will always be shit under both these parties. They've spent decades poisoning everyone to be against each other. It's sad.

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More both sides bullshit. I love it. Yall are pathetic.

 

[Katamari]

Independents will read headline and blame Biden then votes republican.

 

[BWoog]

Question for people who might know better: I know this does not help people who don't have the means to do this but is it legal for someone in one of the states where this is banned to travel to a state where it is legal to get an abortion?

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Yes...for now. Red states are already planning on putting laws into place that would punish residents who would try this and I'll give you two guesses how the SC would rule when it comes to shit like this.

 

[Tahnit]

Time for riots.

 

[Razgriz417]

 

[kalindana]

 

[idonteven]

they care so much about kids but when they get shot down by some crazy fucker with a gun they don't care

weirdos

 

[LegendofJoe]

Abortion will be banned in Michigan ASAP. The Jane collective needs to come back, which is unfucking real in 2022.

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Jane’s Revenge - InfluenceWatch

Jane’s Revenge is a far-left extremist group which claimed responsibility for an attack against an anti-abortion group’s office in Madison, Wisconsin, in May 2022 after leaks revealed that the U.S. Supreme Court was considering overturning the Roe v. Wade decision that found a constitutional...

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[Zip]

Outrageous. This shit feels like it's setting up for a very big snap somewhere.

The supreme court has failed the American people.