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Switch 2/Switch 4k: Insider NateDrake shares info on expected release window, BC concerns, and talks about third party exclusives

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SilverX

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Apologies I listened to this work and can't do a detailed write up, but this is very interesting discussion and info being shared. I also apologize if NateDrake does not want a dedicated thread about this due to the ever changing nature of info like this but I am really itching for a good Switch 2 discussion so hopefully its fine

Here are the major takeaways (if I understood correctly while multitasking lol)

- No longer sounds like a Switch Pro but a Switch 2/Switch 4k based on what was learned, it all depends on how the marketing presents the product
- 4k will be achieved through DLSS
- Big publishers/developers got the devkits late 2020 with smaller ones getting them this year
- MOD EDIT: Dataminers have suggested that the Switch 4k/Succ will have challenges with being natively backwards compatible because of hardware differences, but MVG suggests Nintendo has options to pursue backwards compatibility.
- Devs are working on exclusives, some PS/Xbox ports
- Devs are targeting their games being "done" by late 2022, but a game being done doesn't necessarily mean thats when it releases for various reasons.
- Hears it will release within Holiday 2022 - Early 2023 period, within those 6 months (supply constraints make it hard to know exactly when it is possible, meaning could miss holiday season)

Again, some really juicy stuff and I thought it is worth a dedicated thread

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I don't trust insiders anymore, but if this is true

As of right now it is not naively BC with the Switch 1 due to it being different hardware and lacking TX1, but there are ways around it, depends on what Nintendo will do
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Nintendo can fuck all the way off.
 
dlauv

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Call it the Switch U so people will know to avoid it.
 
Tathanen

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Yo I'm not sure there's ever been a system that really needs to be backwards compatible more than Switch 2. They better figure that out.
 
Liam Allen-Miller

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I legitimately don't believe they would not have full BC. None of the big companies are going to do that anymore.

EDIT: To be clear I am not saying this report is faulty or unbelievable, just expressing that I don't think Nintendo will ship without BC.
 
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takriel

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If we're getting BotW 2 and Metroid Prime 4 at 4k, I'm all for it!
 
Dyle

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I have a very hard time believing Nintendo would go back on the many, many things they've said highlighting the importance of the Switch as a single unified platform moving forward. They know it's extremely important to both their users and their business partners and will ensure it will happen. I assume this is just a situation where the current firmware or dev tools aren't capable of running Switch games natively, which given it's more than a year out at the very minimum isn't that odd
 
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Pop-O-Matic

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I totally expect Nintendo to sell 4K ports of BotW, Mario Odyssey, Metroid Dread, et al. for $70 and for people to eat it up regardless.

Nintendo totally took the same lesson from the failures of the Wii U and 3DS that Sony took from the PS3:
  • BC expensive
  • Can make more money reselling people games they already own
  • Therefor, no more BC forever and ever
 
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Adulfzen

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I don't think Nate has ever said it's straight up not backwards compatible, just that it would be a challenge to make it work which is normal since it's gonna be a brand new SOC
 
Kalor

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Nintendo wouldn't release a non BC product in late 2022/2023. Especially when something like Splatoon 3 is out next year and that'll be supported for a while. If this is true, probably just a current limitation that won't matter at release.
 
JakeNoseIt

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Well if it's not backwards compatible then at least we'll have years of whining for 4K Switch ports lmao
 
Tophat Jones

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It's suicide if it's not BC. I absolutely need to be able to download my digital Switch library on this thing day 1.
 
Sinkfloridasink

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I'm what world could they call it a switch pro or a switch 4k without it being BC?

It would have to be a "new device". Literally nuts
 
erikNORML

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Holiday 2022 sounds super premature for a sequel console (especially if it is not BC). There would just seem to be no logical reason why Nintendo would cut the Switch off at the knees like that given how well it is still selling, that it has yet to get a real price cut, and that the OLED launched. It makes about 0 sense as a business decision. Late 2023 seems more believable.
 
Hero_of_the_Day

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No BC would be fucking massive. Not saying I wouldn't buy the system, but I would never buy a digital game from them again, that's for sure. I know it's Nintendo, but so blatantly ignoring the competition at that level would be insane, even for them.
 
Dust

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There is zero chance it won't be BC, Nintendo will move mountains to make it so.
 
luoapp

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Isn't the rumor having Nintendo partnered with NVidia again? If that's the case, no BC sounds very unlikely.
 
CloseTalker

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Would be an absolute dumpster fire if it isn't BC. If they are going that route, drop the Switch name
 
GasProblem

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End 2022 would be great. I wonder what chip shortages will mean for the supply.

No BC would make for interesting times on the internet...
 
Snake Eater

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Why would there be BC when Nintendo can re-release all their Switch games as 4K remasters for $60?
 
Xwing

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That release timeline sounds like complete bullshit. No way we get a successor console any sooner than holiday 2023 at the very earliest.

Also, after years of having at least 1 gen prior backwards compatibility with their cartridge based systems (Game Boy, DS, 3DS), there's no way they don't have backwards compatibility for Switch 2/Succesor.
 
bytesized

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Same as everyone else. I bought more games for the switch than any other console trusting that Nintendo would make future consoles BC. If that's not the case I'm out.
 
ApeEscaper

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Was a matter of time expected 2022/23, Switch released 2017 so good time for their next console
I refuse to believe there won't be BC
 
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