tullisse(Toni) Murdock would have been the university's chancellor and is the one Reade named.
Tara Reade appears to have lied under oath about her education, defense lawyers seek to get convictions overturned in cases where she testified
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tullisse(Toni) Murdock would have been the university's chancellor and is the one Reade named.
That's why perjury is a threat; so they can't go lying.
Potentially but -- Reade names Toni Murdoch as the chancellor -- she was the Chancellor of Antioch University Seattle. Though there was a separation in 1997, it seems.
Chancellor Toni Murdock on Antioch University and Higher Education
In 1997, Tullisse (Toni) Murdock was appointed the first female president of an Antioch campus (Seattle), where she served for nine years. She became…www.wyso.org
I don't know how you can have read that, and made this post:
She became Antioch's first female chancellor in 2005 and during her tenure the University underwent several major transitions, including its separation from Antioch College.
This clearly says that the university split after she became Chancellor, and in fact, this took place in 2008, long after Reade would've attended:
Antioch University Moves Forward After Separation From College
It was a year ago that Antioch University and Antioch College in Yellow Springs became two separate institutions. Antioch College Interim President,…
www.wyso.org
It was a year ago that Antioch University and Antioch College in Yellow Springs became two separate institutions. While the college is making plans to reopen next fall, the university is also looking ahead to the future. But Murdoch says knowing about the past is a priority as well, and that the University has hired an historian to begin research.
Article posted SEP 8, 2010
Yeah this is actually more what I'm thinking of over the bad people getting out because of this; what if her expert testimony put Innocents in jail and they've had no way of proving it. Not a year goes by anymore without someone who has been in jail for decades getting proven innocent
"But Ms. Hamilton, the Antioch spokeswoman, told The Times that it had spoken with Ms. Murdock, and that there was no such special arrangement with Ms. Reade."
Part of having their voice heard is having the case and overall context of the story investigated properly. I think it behooves us all to let that work be done before declaring something definitively and that didn't happen in this case. Even at this point none of us can say with 100% certainty that something didn't happen but there is a substantial cloud of doubt now. This will ultimately end up in some hazy conclusion where we probably won't ever know what really happened unless Tara or Joe step forward admit to lying one way or the other and that means people will take what they want from it moving forward.
Edit: Just saw the NYT article which means that she is still lying about things to cover up her trail at this point though. Pretty crazy.
Edit: Just saw the NYT article which means that she is still lying about things to cover up her trail at this point though. Pretty crazy.
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Yeeouch.
But the crux of the current issue is her falsifying her credentials in relation to being an expert witness, and being a legislative assistant who worked on the Violence Against Women Act was supposed to be a component of that.
But the crux of the current issue is her falsifying her credentials in relation to being an expert witness, and being a legislative assistant who worked on the Violence Against Women Act was supposed to be a component of that.
What's most crazy for me is not the falsifying of documents and credentials- but purposefully going forward and seeking out the opportunity to be an expert witness in not just one-but MULTIPLE criminal trials. Its almost begging to get caught. The consequences are disastrous.
I mistyped, I meant 2007 and not 1997 -- I'm dyslexic and saw the 1997 in the article and that's where my brain went to type. My point was that it was pretty clear that she was the chancellor of the university in Seattle.I don't know how you can have read that, and made this post:
She became Antioch's first female chancellor in 2005 and during her tenure the University underwent several major transitions, including its separation from Antioch College.
This clearly says that the university split after she became Chancellor, and in fact, this took place in 2008, long after Reade would've attended:
Antioch University Moves Forward After Separation From College
It was a year ago that Antioch University and Antioch College in Yellow Springs became two separate institutions. Antioch College Interim President,…
It was a year ago that Antioch University and Antioch College in Yellow Springs became two separate institutions. While the college is making plans to reopen next fall, the university is also looking ahead to the future. But Murdoch says knowing about the past is a priority as well, and that the University has hired an historian to begin research.
Article posted SEP 8, 2010
I really appreciate this post, it helps dissipate the deliberate fog surrounding those context-less gifs and video clips.
Well, once you lie your way into law school you can't really stop then.
The very reason why people fight against the death penalty, and if not for DNA imagine how many people would still be in jail based of bogus "expert" testimony.
Well, okay, but I can only read the post you made. And she was president of the seattle school, and Chancellor of the entire system (they have 4 branches, from what I remember reading.)
yep. Being a visiting professor (lie), her degree(BA At Least a lie), and legislative assistant (lie), all tied into her being an expert witness most likely. All three were partially or entirely fabricated.
New article by NYTimes:
Tara Reade Is Dropped as Client by a Leading #MeToo Lawyer (Published 2020)
The lawyer’s departure came after concerns over the expert witness credentials of Ms. Reade, who has accused Joe Biden of sexual assault.www.nytimes.com
This sounds really weird.
So either Reade, Hamilton, or Murdock is lying. If the spokeswoman is lying, it'd be easy for Murdoch to call her out. So either Reade is lying or Murdoch is lying.
Well... fuck. Kinda pissed she took us for a ride and super pissed that her behavior will lead to criminals being released, or led to innocent people being incarcerated... holy shit what a mess.
She read a Bret Stephens Op-Ed, and assumed the entire paper was like that.
(Only half-joking, there).
I'm saying that I mistake and you were correct in your assessment. Yes, you can only read the post I made, that's why I apologized for the confusion.
I'll take your word for it of course, you worked in Congress. I see your point.
Thing is, she may well could still have been raped by Biden. But there's no 2nd accuser, a lot of information revolving around her job, the incident is actually iffy, and if this pans out, she seems to lie a lot in very material damaging ways for others.
Until more information or more clarification can come out, I don't think she's telling the truth about the rape.
20 cases of domestic violence, ugh that's so bad for everyone involved. Obviously who knows if her expert insight swayed trials but the right thing is to revisit the cases.
That's 100% bullshit. She's literally admitting to never getting a degree and instead claiming she has a secret one!
I missed what happened but is this what led to the exodus from PoliEra?
It seemed that anybody that refused to brandish Joe Biden as a convicted rapist or were hesitant to believe every aspect of Ms. Reade's allegations was set upon pretty fiercely.
I appreciate trying to be fair to all involved -- but, it's pretty clear that Reade is the one lying here. A major university has verifiable records of who attended and graduated.
She's probably going to jail if this is true. Most people aren't dumb enough to commit jailable offenses by lying to legal minds and judges who deal with winning at all costs.
and what if some of those were innocent and had to suffer years in prison with no freedom because a bad expert witness
The constant brigading calling PoliEra posters rape apologists when they started noticing inconsistencies and contridictions
It's fucked up either way. Either innocent people went to prison partly because of her, or people who are actually guilty are now getting off the hook entirely because of her.
Well, I was apologizing for going after you so hard, since it was just a mistake. I should've made that clearer.
I wonder if along with the nonprofit status protection reason, another reason that Times's Up and other similar groups did not help Reade that much is that they did investigations into her background and felt that things such as this would go public. Even if Biden did sexually assault and/or rape her, all of the things coming out are damaging her credibility fast.
Its a little better now, but only cause those attacking anyone that didn't call Biden a rapist got banned soon enough.
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It means she either made the whole thing up or the Chancellor called in favors and is now denying it to save herself. Either way it means she likely didn't get a degree. "The president took it from the registrar and did it herself for complete confidentiality" isn't a real thing that happens.
Why Would Murdoch be lying? She has no incentive to lie here, at all.
Yeah, this is gonna end with overturns/new trials and Raede is going to get all the blame.
I assume that charges will be brought against her and she'll be prosecuted for perjuring herself. Perjury usually isn't even an offense worthy of prosecution but this is a whole nother level and I assume there would be some interest in pursuing it if these cases are overturned.
It's a disaster all around and the number of people affected is just unconscionable.
Can you even imagine if some of those people were actually innocent and were put to jail? Luckily it is only 20 cases and not more.
His response is probably so tepid because he doesnt wanna catch a ban like many others great users over this story.