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The "sexy baby" line is so so bad 😭 Karma is trash. The whole album is trash.
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Taylor Swift announces new album The Tortured Poets Department out April 19
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Midnights is great, y'all are on one.
Got to get through a grim day today and really looking forward to the album drop to hear its sound and soak.
Keep that shit in spoilers until the drop
Got to get through a grim day today and really looking forward to the album drop to hear its sound and soak.
Keep that shit in spoilers until the drop
lmao 🎖️
It's totally ok not to like Midnights but you're so riled up about it that your post reads like the "Square can kiss their business goodbye" meme post.
I think you just don't like EDM. Midnights is lyrically a lot better than 1989 at least. Sexy baby notwithstanding.
When it comes to Anti-Hero then...
relatable for anxiety/depression:
relatable for dysphoria days:
So two of my most sung verses on the album, I don't get the hate.
relatable for anxiety/depression:
relatable for dysphoria days:
So two of my most sung verses on the album, I don't get the hate.
When it comes to Anti-Hero then...
relatable for anxiety/depression:
relatable for dysphoria days:
So two of my most sung verses on the album, I don't get the hate.
too right
Continuing with the theme of trans-relatable lyrics in Midnights, this section from You're On Your Own, Kid really hits when it comes to transition:
You're On Your Own Kid
Would've, Could've, Should've
Bigger Than The Whole Sky
Hits Different
Are all fantastic songs. The rest of Midnights is all sorts of average.
Her real bangers recently have been the vault stuff on her Taylor's Version albums, why are they all so good???
Would've, Could've, Should've
Bigger Than The Whole Sky
Hits Different
Are all fantastic songs. The rest of Midnights is all sorts of average.
Her real bangers recently have been the vault stuff on her Taylor's Version albums, why are they all so good???
Anti-Hero is a song where she thought of one good line and built a song around it and it is very obvious. Courtney Love staying right.
I loved Evermore but didn't care for Midnights, so I guess i'm vaguely optimistic for this one, but we'll see.
Midnights sure brings out the wild opinions around here, though.
Midnights sure brings out the wild opinions around here, though.
The Tortured Poet is not even her, she says this about Matt Healy/Jon Alwyn.
Midnights was one of her weaker albums because it lacked a coherent idea, imo. It was a collection of songs, some better than others.
It's totally fine though. Folklore and Evermore were artistic peaks in her career and imo fulfilled her mission as a songwriter - they gave me everything I'd wanted from her discography, together with her earlier albums. So now I'll forgive any lesser albums going forward, but hopefully they do have more of an interesting identiy than Midnight, just because I'm greedy.
It's totally fine though. Folklore and Evermore were artistic peaks in her career and imo fulfilled her mission as a songwriter - they gave me everything I'd wanted from her discography, together with her earlier albums. So now I'll forgive any lesser albums going forward, but hopefully they do have more of an interesting identiy than Midnight, just because I'm greedy.
Definitely agree, but every song stood out on its own, which I really loved. This one sonically isn't as exciting, so I hope on the next album she at least works with new producers or explores her sound a bit.
Only 10.5 hours until the album actually drops and people can hear it for themselves 🤷♀️
I like the concept of Midnights and found it interesting to explore a bunch of sleepless nights and the reasons behind them, since a lot of things can keep you up at night and have you thinking. From the good to the bad. Not my favourite theme across the albums but I thought it was neat personally. Especially with the 12,000 days tie-in, was cute.
I like the concept of Midnights and found it interesting to explore a bunch of sleepless nights and the reasons behind them, since a lot of things can keep you up at night and have you thinking. From the good to the bad. Not my favourite theme across the albums but I thought it was neat personally. Especially with the 12,000 days tie-in, was cute.
How excited are you Kyuuji?
I'm hyped to listen to it 2moro when I've finished work!
I enjoyed Midnights, not as much as her other work but it's still a great album!
Far from a Swiftie FWIW.
I dunno it seems like a massive stretch to call it appropriating and saying imagine if it was race comes off like trying even harder to create a controversy.
No one actually thinks she's a tortured poet. It's a common phrase used by a lot of people. Hell it's probably been used countless times by other artists who happen to be wealthy, middle class, or poor.
I mean this sounds like saying AC/DC shouldn't sing Highway to Hell anymore because they are now rich and other people are actually living in a hell and they aren't.
Extreeemely excited!! Haha. I have an hour of really intense pain later in the afternoon, a day of anxiety before it, and then usually a couple of hours in a dark room afterwards. So having brand new Taylor at midnight will be my salve for all that. Her album drops are always an exciting time for me and my bestie, but after the past couple of weeks we've had with the Cass review and with the events of today it's really coming at a well needed time.
Agreed! It's not my fave album (evermore is) but I like all of her albums (and most of the songs on them) bar Debut and they get frequent rotation. I hope you get some time and space to enjoy it when you finish work tomorrow 💜
I hope your intense pain and the anxiety etc goes okay for you! I won't ask as it's your own thing but I enjoy your posts around here and your threads Kyuuji!
If I didn't work in IT whilst taking calls I'd listen to the album as I'm working but I know it'll be "start listening....phone call, pause the song, after the call, unpause etc" so I wanna listen to it in one proper go!
Are we allowed to rank her albums? if so even though I haven't listened to all of her albums
1. 1989
2. Folklore
3. Red
4. Reputation
5. Evermore
6. Midnights
7. Speak Now
8. Lover
The title is a dig at the "boys club" chat group that her ex-boyfriend ("The Tortured Boyfriend Club") created with the rest of his dudebro friends to complain about their girlfriends and female friends.
Lover is my favorite album of hers. I've always loved the whimsicalness of Lover and 1989 the most. But I can't help but also love Midnights simply because it resonates with me as a woman in my mid 30s which she is too.
Anyway, stoked for tomorrow.
Anyway, stoked for tomorrow.
Only if you have the correct ranking, which is this
1. Evermore
2. Lover
3. Midnights
4. 1989
5. Folklore
6. Reputation
(I don't really care about the rest but I'll just finish it for the thought experiment)
7. Fearless
8. Red
9. Speak Now
10. TS
Literally the only thing I agree with is Debut being #10, damn.
Damn you're the first person I know that puts Evermore at 1 and waaaay above Folklore! Fair play!
Aw, thank you!
Love the avatar btw, it's cool
That makes sense, better to wait until you can properly enjoy it! I hope the calls that do come in aren't too annoying!
Oooo ranking. I like Taylor rankings because peoples are always very different outside of usually having Red in the first half. I hate Taylor rankings because outside of evermore I'm like 🤷♀️ I have no clue haha. They're all different, with different meanings, emotions and vibes about them. With the sole exception of debut I like them all, and most of the songs on them. So any ranking I give always changes wildly lol. Fwiw I only listen to the TVs and don't go back, with the exception of Rep until we get its rerelease.
So atm umm…
- evermore
- Red TV
- folklore
- Speak Now TV
- 1989 TV
- Midnights
- Lover
- Reputation
- Fearless TV
- Debut
I respect Folklore a lot, but it skews a little bit too close to elevator music for me. It's so well produced everything blends together. Evermore has more songs that (are more melodious and therefore) pop out from the rest.
- folklore
- Red TV
- Evermore
- Midnights
- 1989 TV
- Lover
- Reputation
- Speak Now TV
- Fearless TV
- Debut
hope you love it! I'm really enjoying this recent trend of 'no singles before release' (TTPD, Billie Eilish's next album) -- makes for such a fun first listen experience, where you have absolutely no idea what to expect.
not the biggest Taylor fan in the world but I admire her incredible work ethic and output. must be so much fun to be a bona fide Swiftie; y'all have something new to look forward to every few months or so
Aw, thank you!That's really nice of you!
Love the avatar btw, it's cool
That makes sense, better to wait until you can properly enjoy it! I hope the calls that do come in aren't too annoying!
Oooo ranking. I like Taylor rankings because peoples are always very different outside of usually having Red in the first half. I hate Taylor rankings because outside of evermore I'm like 🤷♀️ I have no clue haha. They're all different, with different meanings, emotions and vibes about them. With the sole exception of debut I like them all, and most of the songs on them. So any ranking I give always changes wildly lol. Fwiw I only listen to the TVs and don't go back, with the exception of Rep until we get its rerelease.
So atm umm…
…but again, everything between 1 and 10 can shift lol.
- evermore
- Red TV
- folklore
- Speak Now TV
- 1989 TV
- Midnights
- Lover
- Reputation
- Fearless TV
- Debut
Interesting list!
Oh yeah I forgot to mention my ones that have TV out is on my list, ain't giving Scooter any of my streams haha
Also underrated banger is No Body, No Crime from Evermore
It's so catchy
Also Cowboy Like Me
Can't wait to see where we all put TTPD on our lists!
I should never had opened my fingers because there was only one way this would go. Ive just been scrolling the OT for weeks now and every time I see the thread title I roll my eyes. Then it went from annoying to upsetting after repeated exposure. I could just ignore it yeah, but I felt a responsibility to share my perspective.
Yes. I know how this reads to normal persons, nevertheless Swifties. Like a bitter madman's rant. I'll also admit I didn't communicate my point very well. So think of it like this:
A neurotypical person romanticizes neurodiverse people.
Because that's what it is. Tortured poets almost always connotes mental illness. Saying it's "just an inside joke" would not fly as a valid excuse for any other type of privileged person making light of their antithesis as a fun art concept about their ex.
Tortured artist - Wikipedia
"The trope has been criticized for romanticizing mental illness, treating it as a necessary ingredient for creativity.[1"
So then Tay is romanticizing the romanticizing of mental illness, but its a jUsT a JokE lol about Healy (who, in her defense, does suck.)
This person is beaming in every single photograph taken of her. You can see the serotonin doing it's magic in her mien and manner. Take any random gif or image or anecdote of Taylor Swift that displays torture and I'll be flabbergasted. Until then its going to feel like appropriation to me for the points I've laid out.
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Ah thank you!! Same, it's so nice to head into in album completely blind on what you're going to hear. Never quite sure if it will be an extension or a clean break. Excited to hear new Billie as well! Honestly between her, Taylor, Dua and Ari we are blessed rn.
It is a lot of fun! Especially in the run up to albums with all the clues. It's been a really nice through-thread across the years, especially growing up alongside her and seeing how many other women/girls share that. Just a general feel good element in life, and we take those.
Amen to that! No Body, No Crime is a banger indeed. The entire album is just incredible. It's a fair way above the rest for me. Same for where TTPD will sit in rankings!! Ahh!!
I agree with just about everything you said here but ultimately, the album is just boring to me more than it is infuriating. I think going from Folklore/ Evermore to Midnights was such a letdown of a move because I really had hoped that we reached Taylor's "grown up" stage (which is a stupid thing to say, I know). There's a part of me that wants her to take Beyonce's cue and just really hammer into themes and explore new avenues for her sound.
It's time to ditch Jack.
I've got Evermore on now, I feel like it's her most underrated album
Tons of bangers on it!
It's a really wonderful album from top to bottom! 🧡 🍂
Also, since we don't get swiftie chat on here much and if you don't have the physical or missed it, one little touch I loved about folklore and evermore being sister albums, is how that's reflected in the album artwork:
It leaked in the early AM. Please spoiler impressions until release tho 🙏
It's a really wonderful album from top to bottom! 🧡 🍂
Also, since we don't get swiftie chat on here much and if you don't have the physical or missed it, one little touch I loved about folklore and evermore being sister albums, is how that's reflected in the album artwork:
evermore and folklore are just so pretty.
View: https://open.spotify.com/track/07NxDD1iKCHbAldceD7QLP?si=bc764a55d15e4922
From Out Of The Woods to Labyrinth, all her best work is with Jack.
I should never had opened my fingers because there was only one way this would go. Ive just been scrolling the OT for weeks now and every time I see the thread title I roll my eyes. Then it went from annoying to upsetting after repeated exposure. I could just ignore it yeah, but I felt a responsibility to share my perspective.
Yes. I know how this reads to normal persons, nevertheless Swifties. Like a bitter madman's rant. I'll also admit I didn't communicate my point very well. So think of it like this:
A neurotypical person romanticizes neurodiverse people.
Because that's what it is. Tortured poets almost always implicates mental illness. Saying it's "just an inside joke" would not fly as a valid excuse for any other type of privileged person making light of their antithesis as a fun art concept about their ex.
Tortured artist - Wikipedia
en.m.wikipedia.org
"The trope has been criticized for romanticizing mental illness, treating it as a necessary ingredient for creativity.[1"
So then Tay is romanticizing the romanticizing of mental illness, but its a jUsT a JokE lol about Healy (who, in her defense, does suck.)
This person is beaming in every single photograph taken of her. You can see the serotonin doing it's magic in her mien and manner. Take any random gif or image or anecdote of Taylor Swift that displays torture and I'll be flabbergasted. Until then its going to feel like appropriation to me for the points I've laid out.
I don't particularly have a strong opinion and like I said I'm not a Swift fan.
I think it's pretty dangerous to assume mental the person smiling in all the photos can't be struggling with mental health. I don't know how many rich celebrities like Robin Williams or Anthony Bourdain etc need to kill themselves before we realize mental illness is a human condition and not solely a condition of financial circumstance.
How many beaming photos and stories of Robin Williams making people laugh exist?
Had a friend get a copy early by fluke, not stealing, not a leak, so my wife and I were able to listen through it last night (staying up until midnight is not something we're physically capable to doing as tired as all heck parents). We took the opportunity to listen early and be able to enjoy it together.
It's more Taylor Swift, and that's all the detail I'll leave here so as to not spoil it for anyone else.
It's more Taylor Swift, and that's all the detail I'll leave here so as to not spoil it for anyone else.
