Television Displays and Technology Thread: The ERA of OLED is Now
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I think the colors pop so much more because of the great contrast and because the Peak brightness can be very high. Deep blacks are as important as the bright sunlight for that matter. The overall picture with HDR is often times even a bit darker overall compared to non HDR.
Will I be able to play PUBG and be just as bad as I already am or will that amount of lag make me noticeably worse?
I'm not really sure what's considered good or bad. Tv noob.
If you use a PC monitor then the lag will feel really bad.
However, there is a 120hz mode on this TV but it's only for 1080p and not 4K, this mode brings the lag down to around 16 ms which is more then double the lag of some of the best PC monitors out there.
Guys, I just setup my newly received Sony A1... look at the disaster. What are these awful stains on the screen?! Burn in? It is supposedly brand new! Other defect?
I just launched the screen refresh to check it disappears but I have no hope... I think I will to return it under warranty.
I just launched the screen refresh to check it disappears but I have no hope... I think I will to return it under warranty.
I already use a pre-HDR Samsung 4k tv with my PC so I imagine I wouldn't really notice any difference. Thank you!
Guys, I just setup my newly received Sony A1... look at the disaster. What are these awful stains on the screen?! Burn in? It is supposedly brand new! Other defect?
I just launched the screen refresh to check it disappears but I have no hope... I think I will to return it under warranty.
Burn in is something that may occur over a long period of time, so this is a defective screen and should be replaced.
Can you tell me the model of your TV?
So when should I run the screen cleaning function on the B7? I figured it's something you should do every now and then for maintenance, but I also hear you shouldn't use it as it ages the pixels?
The TV will do it automatically when the it is used for more than 4 hours. Jsut make sure the TV has power when turned off.
I know about that one, but I hear the manual one is more in-depth?
Hey I'm a new B7 owner and I'm still dialing in settings for HDR game mode. How do I know if I have "Active HDR" enabled?
I don't know what's going on there but my A1 was nothing like that. After extensive gameplay use...it's nothing like that.Guys, I just setup my newly received Sony A1... look at the disaster. What are these awful stains on the screen?! Burn in? It is supposedly brand new! Other defect?
I just launched the screen refresh to check it disappears but I have no hope... I think I will to return it under warranty.
Get it replaced fella.
Are you sure it wasn't just what the background looked like? Or was this present on everything?
If that picture is brand new out of the box and the uniformity has corrected after a compensation cycle there is no need to return the set.
OLED's uniformity can be awful until a few compensation cycles (the auto ones that run every 4 hours after a set is switched off) have run.
No need to return if it has disappeared!
It's fairly common for the compensation cycle to clean up a lot of stuff early on. My LG was pretty terrible initially and it was gone after 1 cycle.
Spider-Man: Homecoming in Dolby Vision OMG
Edit: my first introduction to 4K HDR for movies was UHD discs played last night on the X1X and wow that was a mistake. Not sure if it's the player or the settings I had going but Dolby Vision thru VUDU is absolutely amazing. No way I could ever go back to my plasma.
Edit: my first introduction to 4K HDR for movies was UHD discs played last night on the X1X and wow that was a mistake. Not sure if it's the player or the settings I had going but Dolby Vision thru VUDU is absolutely amazing. No way I could ever go back to my plasma.
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Active HDR only works on anything that's not HDR game, you need dynamic contrast on low, for it to be activated.
Just want to make sure I understood your response to him about HDR Game Mode not being dim. When I put the TV in Game Mode when being fed an HDR signal, I should have Dynamic Contrast set to low or should I have it off? Or am I completely not understanding what you mean?
OLED TVs need a few compensation cycles to settle in. That's why it's a pain to replace one, you need to watch at least ten hours of content before telling if your TV is ok or not.
Your TV will keep improving in the first month, one another common thing with OLED is that your blacks are gonna be crushed at first. Wait several cycles before choosing a definitive picture setting.
Only do it if you notice any image retention. That's it sole purpose. Auto comp cycle are fine by themselves.
The Dark Knight DV looks like ass to me
Spider-Man: Homecoming, Dunkirk and Blade Runner 2049 all look AMAZING to me though.
Spider-Man: Homecoming, Dunkirk and Blade Runner 2049 all look AMAZING to me though.
Active HDR doesn't work on 2017 models for HDR game mode, but it does work for movies etc.
You can have DC set to low for gaming, but it essentially just manipulates gamma, not a dynamic tone mapping response, like the 2018 models have for game mode.
Does anyone with an OLED have some weird (horizontal mostly, sometimes) colour banding in cartoons every now and then, and if so what is the reason for it? It's not the regular OLED banding since it's not even always straight. It's very difficult to photograph, but you can kind of see it here:
https://imgur.com/a/Vw5mEnFp
https://imgur.com/5yXb5Kb
It's more obvious in person, only shows on some colours (mostly blue-ish and brown-ish) and I don't (or at least very rarely) have the problem with non cartoon shows. Is this a problem with the quality the channel puts out, quality of the cartoon or some TV-settings? Only thing I tried to change was the gamma, but that doesn't make any difference. I've got an LG E7 by the way.
Edit: no clue how image posting works, both img tags and and inserting it via the top bar doesn't seem to work.
https://imgur.com/a/Vw5mEnFp
https://imgur.com/5yXb5Kb
It's more obvious in person, only shows on some colours (mostly blue-ish and brown-ish) and I don't (or at least very rarely) have the problem with non cartoon shows. Is this a problem with the quality the channel puts out, quality of the cartoon or some TV-settings? Only thing I tried to change was the gamma, but that doesn't make any difference. I've got an LG E7 by the way.
Edit: no clue how image posting works, both img tags and and inserting it via the top bar doesn't seem to work.
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Honestly I am not a fan of dynamic tone mapping on the C8 in games/movies, messes with the EOTF curve, and consequently, picture too much. Does not really work like it does in Dolby Vision.
Actually on my C7, DeWayne calibrated it to 2.35 gamma, with the target gamma being 2.4, in PC mode... it did not clip the blacks. Personally prefer that for SDR movies. Some/most games are mastered at 2.2 gamma anyway seems like. Like RDR for example which I recently played on the 1X.
On the C8, can't use 2.4 target gamma in PC mode as for some reason it clips some blacks. Yup use it in dark room, and still looks awesome :)
Actually on my C7, DeWayne calibrated it to 2.35 gamma, with the target gamma being 2.4, in PC mode... it did not clip the blacks. Personally prefer that for SDR movies. Some/most games are mastered at 2.2 gamma anyway seems like. Like RDR for example which I recently played on the 1X.
On the C8, can't use 2.4 target gamma in PC mode as for some reason it clips some blacks. Yup use it in dark room, and still looks awesome :)
I'm not entirely happy with skin tones yet. Not sure I can really do much about that without a proper calibration (which I don't have the knowledge or equipment to do).
This is what I've been trying to say about DTM, when i did a ton of testing, around 50% of scenes looked better without it, loads of blowing out of highlights too.
Also the assumption that DTM always looks brighter, when in fact it doesn't.
I'm confused about RGB settings on PS4. Should I be using Full or Limited. Setting to automatic the system seems to default to Full. I'm using HDMI on OLED
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Have to say, I have been tinkering with my B7 settings for 2 days now and HDR game mode is def dimmer than the others. Cinema mode looks best to me.
Have to say, I have been tinkering with my B7 settings for 2 days now and HDR game mode is def dimmer than the others. Cinema mode looks best to me.
Make sure dynamic contrast is off in cinema, when you are comparing, I've lost count of the times I have compared and seen absolutely no difference.
Comparing Cinema and Game Mode directly both with Dynamic Contrast set off you are indeed correct, but I think Cinema looks better with Dynamic Contrast set to low and it is the recommend default setting by Rtings.
I use it for cinema too, but not all scenes are brighter or more impactful compared to off, and it definitely does not do a great job for gaming, as games look really overblown in bright scenes.
I've been thinking about how different the mediums are, as in films and games, and how dynamic tone mapping would differ between them.
So in regards to films, the majority of scenes just flick from one to the next, little movement or change a lot of the time, so the tone mapping algorithm has an easier job, unlike games, the camera is a 24/7 free flow, 360 degree constant, and at any given time can change it's surroundings and conditions, with zero break, so it does make me wonder how efficient it is, because I would walk around taking in lots of different sights, but never notice any adaption from the DTM, but if I turned it on and off, you'd then see the difference, and it never quite looked as it did..........just a thought.
I've always wondered: does this occur after 4 hours of continuous use? Or after 4 total hours, even if they're broken up by days?
That I don't know.
I set black level to high and rgb to full for Switch. However, users said that HDR screws this so I would say set it to limired and black level to low for PS4.
I've had the LG SK9000 for a while now, but I only noticed the terrible backlight bleed yesterday while playing Dark Souls. It's an IPS panel, so I'm aware this problem was to be expected. I could still return it. According to Rtings, the Sony X900F has much better black uniformity. However, the Sony model has input lag of about 40 ms, while the LG only has roughly 15 ms. In fact, that's the main reason why I opted for the LG.
No idea what do now. Can anyone tell me if the Sony's black uniformity is substantially better? How noticeable is the difference between 40 ms and 15 ms?
No idea what do now. Can anyone tell me if the Sony's black uniformity is substantially better? How noticeable is the difference between 40 ms and 15 ms?
What are these horizontal lines that I keep seeing on lower resolution content on the OLED? They are like red/blue horizontal stripes that show up in bright scenes. Is this color banding?
The only time you should use Full is if you are using your TV as a monitor for your PC. For EVERYTHING else it should be set to limited.
The X900F only has 40ms input lag at 1080p.
At 4k it's 24ms
You'd be going from an IPS panel to a FALD VA panel.
The difference will be substantial.
I believe Sammy only support it with 1080p signals (currently).
Thanks, I guess in hindsight it was pretty foolish to opt for the IPS panel when I could get a VA for the same price. I think I'll return the LG and get the X900F instead.
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