They literally had 6 offers the day this all happened. They're taking a week break to figure out their options.
Tesla lays off almost all of its Supercharger and new vehicle development employees, causing concern for other automakers (Bloomberg)
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Because none of those other builders have displayed a baseline level of competence when it comes to building out new sites and maintaining them. Electrify America and EVgo have been notorious for issues related to broken charging stations and sluggish response to fixing those issues. For all of its many faults, Tesla has legit done a great job when it comes to the outreach of their Supercharger network AND maintaining those charging sites in order to minimize customer frustrations. It's not exactly a giant coincidence that all of the car companies have switched from CCS to NACS, and the capability of the Supercharger network and its NACS standard compared to Electrify America and EVgo's capability with CCS plays a big part. So when we hear news about the Supercharger department getting cut back, it understandably makes people hesitant because the alternatives haven't proven their worth when it comes to building out new sites.
All things considered - pretty great problems to have! You're friend sounds like a talented person!
OT - this seems perfectly in line with how fucking stupid everyone knows Elon Musk actually is.
Well, these laid off people will have a wealth of knowledge to bring to other companies. Will certainly hurt in the short term.
He'll call it a reciprocating pressure differential power device and his followers will be amazed.
Correct, I already acknowledged all that. Tesla's competency and price per site/unit is way ahead of everyone else but clearly State administrators (the party responsible for distributing the money) don't seem to be bothered by the performance of the competitors. So while it might be an issue for users that feedback either isn't being received by the decision makers or they aren't bothered by it. As far as government is concerned all is the same. The network is being expanded and the money continues to be doled out.
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Absolutely, it will be a boon for those companies. It doesn't negate answering the original question of "Why would there be a slowdown?", which is a bit of a silly question when the department responsible for building up the one charging system with the largest footprint and at the fastest rate in the United States has now been gutted.
Tesla's Head of Human Resources Exits as Staff Upheaval Spreads
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Tesla’s Head of Human Resources Exits as Staff Upheaval Spreads
Tesla Inc.’s top human resources executive, Allie Arebalo, has left the company, joining a handful of other senior leaders that have recently departed.
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Didn't see it posted, but thought this was a funny (also likely given Musk's micron thick skin)...
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Exclusive: Tesla retreats from next-generation 'gigacasting' manufacturing process
Just the dumbest timeline.
On the plus side? I don't think the Supercharger Network was the magic bullet everyone seems to think it was going to be. A nice marketing tool? Yep. A good option for backup charging for people? Absolutely.
But a majority of the things people love about the Supercharger Network go away once you broadly open it up to everyone. The one saving grace was going to be if Tesla could keep up with the maintenance side of things the way they have historically been able to and more stations are always a good thing! But once it's fully open it's going to be a worse experience all around without updating every single site and removing some of the 'nice' parts in the process.
But hey at least they got everyone to fuck around for a couple of years swapping out charging ports so we could all continue to use what's basically CCS with a new plug on the end.
On the plus side? I don't think the Supercharger Network was the magic bullet everyone seems to think it was going to be. A nice marketing tool? Yep. A good option for backup charging for people? Absolutely.
But a majority of the things people love about the Supercharger Network go away once you broadly open it up to everyone. The one saving grace was going to be if Tesla could keep up with the maintenance side of things the way they have historically been able to and more stations are always a good thing! But once it's fully open it's going to be a worse experience all around without updating every single site and removing some of the 'nice' parts in the process.
But hey at least they got everyone to fuck around for a couple of years swapping out charging ports so we could all continue to use what's basically CCS with a new plug on the end.
I don't follow the whole Tesla story much but it looks like the company is imploding. Is it imploding?
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The stock price never matched the concept.
Props for being first to market and sell a mainstream EV, but other companies are coming for them.
Hard to say without being a C-suit there.
From the outside, it seems like the current numbers and projections really spooked Musk, and he's flailing wildly to try to appear on top of the situation.
I wonder how Tesla fans will spin this one, the first lay off of 10% of the company was "routine stuff for Musk that always operated that way to only keep the best people" (lol).
So the Tesla stans have gone from "Supercharging network is an incredible growth opportunity. This is their moat." to "Oh we don't need that level of expansion" over the course of 24 hours?
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presumably the public policy team would also be necessary for getting autonomous driving licenses and lobbying for the laws it needs for robotaxis.
I thought the short term rebound in the stock was at least partly based on promises made last week to expand into the lower cost sector. An all-in bet on their crummy autonomous driving, esp one that just moved to a neural net (!!!) system this year and that still eschews LIDAR, seems nuts to me.
Musk will squander Tesla's incredible accomplishments if nothing is done. He should have been replaced by a functional adult long ago.
Well the good news is that all of those alternative builders have the luxury of several hundred skilled workers with expertise in EV charging infrastructure available for hiring literally today!
No idea what Elon is thinking and would love to see employees unionize to prevent his from screwing over so many workers like this. The man had the best charging network out there compared with the rest of the charging infrastructure and demolishes the team like this.
Honestly the U.S. govt needs to get serious about EV's and the charging network. There should be a mandate that any new gas station built must include EV chargers so we can get this transition moving once the "affordable" EV's arrive.
Honestly the U.S. govt needs to get serious about EV's and the charging network. There should be a mandate that any new gas station built must include EV chargers so we can get this transition moving once the "affordable" EV's arrive.
Tesla may try to rehire some of the employees it laid off
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Tesla may try to rehire some of the employees it laid off
Tesla boss Elon Musk may not be as "absolutely hardcore" about layoffs as he said he was in a Monday night email.
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Who needs engineers when GRONK could probably figure it out.
Outside of BYD hardly anyone else is making a dent in a meaningful profitable manner. It's basically the streaming wars all over again.
Where would the money come from? As it stands the states get to allocate funding. There is a whole agreed upon system.
Tesla slashes its summer internship program to cut costs, as Elon Musk fights to save his $45 billion pay plan
Tesla slashes its summer internship program to cut costs, as Elon Musk fights to save his $45 billion pay plan
Some of the internships are unpaid, while others reportedly offer $18 to $28 an hour.
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Tesla Lays Off Entire Team Behind Brakes
AUSTIN, TX—In the latest round of layoffs for the company’s struggling automotive division, electric vehicle manufacturer Tesla fired the entire team behind brakes, sources confirmed Wednesday. “As we continue to rightsize the Tesla workforce, we have come to the decision that stopping the car...
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(not the Onion's A+ work, but good enough)
Tesla may try to rehire some of the employees it laid off
Tesla may try to rehire some of the employees it laid off
Tesla boss Elon Musk may not be as "absolutely hardcore" about layoffs as he said he was in a Monday night email.
And along with this, surely that would probably mess with the stock vesting for a lot of those employees? Since I'm assuming Tesla has that as part of their payment plan. Cynically, I also wouldn't be surprised if their new offer comes back at lower pay rates for the affected employees too.
People thinking mentioning Musk on Twitter will somehow make him answer personally to actually fix a problem like some Samsung Support specialist will never not amuse me.
They think he somehow accidentally did this and just can't wait to put everything back to help idk Steve from Michigan. They also think musk cares for their handful of stocks.
They think he somehow accidentally did this and just can't wait to put everything back to help idk Steve from Michigan. They also think musk cares for their handful of stocks.
How are the institutional investors AT ALL ok with what Musk is doing? Do they really think every single good thing that Tesla has ever done has come fully formed from the mind of the God-King Elon? Are they just trusting him to pull another rabbit out of his ass while he dismantles the company bit by bit?
What's the issue though? An automated poop emoji response is sufficient. Customers just need to do hardcore installation.
Only slightly related, but whatever became of him tweeting at MS' CEO because he didn't like the Win 11 install process?
Elon Musk bought a new PC laptop and ran into some tech issues, so he complained to Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella
Elon Musk bought a new PC laptop and ran into some tech issues, so he complained to Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella
Musk got a new laptop over the weekend. It led to a fight with X's Community Notes feature and a callout to Microsoft's CEO.
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I'd be putting a pre order in on a car and canceling my Rivian if he was gone tomorrow. And I'd invest some money in it too.
Absurd this child still has power there.
Thanks for making me laugh on the train into work :DElon Musk bought a new PC laptop and ran into some tech issues, so he complained to Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella
Elon Musk bought a new PC laptop and ran into some tech issues, so he complained to Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella
Musk got a new laptop over the weekend. It led to a fight with X's Community Notes feature and a callout to Microsoft's CEO.
How about a THUNDERtruck?
Thundertruck
The Multi-Purpose EV. It was made for Outsiders, for those who choose to live and drive outside the proverbial lines.
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Sure why not, seems like we got here somehow. I'll take it until the Supertruck comes out.How about a THUNDERtruck?
Thundertruck
The Multi-Purpose EV. It was made for Outsiders, for those who choose to live and drive outside the proverbial lines.
No, I am confident in the size of my genitals and have nothing to prove.
I'd probably go Model Y