Seems like they're complaining a lot about things that will never affect or come in to play for 99% of people. Seems like fear mongering to get you to buy from the big 3 instead.
Tesla Model 3 teardown (by firm that consults with Big 3) Reveals Flaws Like 'A Kia In The 90s'
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Build quality is shockingly bad. I couldn't believe the part where they had just glued extra felt strips onto the window frame. There are also numerous safety concerns highlighted, like opening the hood and the lack of a mechanical release on the rear doors. Lawsuits are on the horizon.
I've never been in a car where you couldn't mechanically open the rear doors. Is that like a thing in electric cars, or what?
And the fitting issues make it look like a rush job with awful quality control.
Because no other car needs a working battery for the rear doors to be opened, as its are mechanical?
ding ding ding, but hey people wanna circlejerk cuz "I hear musk too much on internet! so he bad!"
yeah i'm sure they are; because multi million dollar company is bunch of morons who don't have any lawyers and morons, but you guys are geniuses of course
Not sure what you are getting at but Toyota basically did this because they saw Tesla rise from being a non-threatening testbed of electrical vehicle technology into a serious competitor who had essentially pushed past Toyota in both mind-share and practical implementation. Unfortunate for them to have sold the shares when they did as that value has almost doubled since that sale.
Getting at its not like Tesla blazed this heroic EV technology trail on their own like a previous poster insinuated
My in laws bought a top of the line model x that had so many issues as well. In terms of raw body work, a shop quoted over 7GRAND, for a car which was brand new and rolled off the lot.
What I will say is that I've seen Teslas service has been pretty good. They'll take care of everything if you'll settle for that. My in laws did not, so they purchased the car back and are giving them another one.
What I will say is that I've seen Teslas service has been pretty good. They'll take care of everything if you'll settle for that. My in laws did not, so they purchased the car back and are giving them another one.
Why are you reacting so angrily, do you not think these are valid points? What if you were in an accident that disabled the power to the rear doors, and you needed to evacuate an unconscious person or child from the back seat. Imagine the car was on fire. Having no mechanical release in the rear is inexcusable.
Some people in here are VERY defensive. Of a billionaire's car company...? Or maybe we're seeing who has Model 3 pre-order and who doesn't.
Um, a firm that has ties to big 3 Auto says Tesla is bad? Can we get unbiased review? Consumer reports?
it's like it was a 1990s kia made in the 70's that you can fit your thumb into it.
Here you go, courtesy of last page.
Your question has been asked more than once in this thread, with no response except for one (laughable) answer that it won't effect 98% of the people. That's the whole reason Democrats have been fighting so hard for regulations of industries such as this, is for the safety of everyone - including the 1-2% of people that a rollover/entrapment/unconsciousness situation could happen to. It's the Right's side to suggest that it will cost big companies money to require nitpicky safety features that won't effect 98% of the people that use a product - wasted money that could go into CEO's pockets. But now suddenly a large percentage of forum members in this thread thinks it's nitpickey or "Big Three Bias" to point out obvious major safety flaws that won't effect 99% of owners. Wow...
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Evidently it is "Big Three Bias" to point those flaws out, because it will never effect the majority of Tesla owners........
I can't put my thumb into the panel gaps on my Infiniti G37 though.
A firm whose entire job is to tear down cars and point out flaws that could be safety problems.
I don't get the defense force around trying to make a car safer.
Ha, I actually have a pre-order. When the first reviews came in and were generally positive I placed a pre-order. Not sure if I'll actually buy one, but I figured I'd hop in line.
I love that Tesla is forcing the big automakers to focus more on EVs than they would have, especially the Germans because the Model S is stealing sales from their flagships. I like Elon Musk's attitude and focus on futurism, despite his flaws as a person (we all have them).
However, I don't understand why Tesla fanboys can't cope with the fact that the company makes some incredibly shitty decisions and performs some incredibly shoddy work in the name of progress at all costs. It comes with the territory of your reach exceeding your grasp. Stories about medicore build quality and questionable design decisions come out monthly with this company. From the poorly tooled robots at the factory, to the customer who received a brand new, $100,000 car with a cracked A-pillar and Tesla offered to repair it instead of replacing the vehicle, to the countless other fit and finish issues, missed deadlines, and service/repair wait-time problems.
However, I don't understand why Tesla fanboys can't cope with the fact that the company makes some incredibly shitty decisions and performs some incredibly shoddy work in the name of progress at all costs. It comes with the territory of your reach exceeding your grasp. Stories about medicore build quality and questionable design decisions come out monthly with this company. From the poorly tooled robots at the factory, to the customer who received a brand new, $100,000 car with a cracked A-pillar and Tesla offered to repair it instead of replacing the vehicle, to the countless other fit and finish issues, missed deadlines, and service/repair wait-time problems.
The defence force here is just weird. Can you guys not accept that something may be flawed? It's a good thing people point out these flaws and make it public, it will force Tesla to rethink some of their choices and hold them accountable.
Say what you will about finished, but if I noticed my 50k+ car having these, I'd be upset. Doesn't matter if it's a Tesla, Audi, Ford or Hyundai, you expect a certain quality in this day and age, if they aren't hitting it they need to be called out, just as any other automaker would be.
Stop the silly defence force and come to grips with the fact this feedback is GOOD, it will only help with the future build quality of Tesla's to be exposed to real criticism.
Say what you will about finished, but if I noticed my 50k+ car having these, I'd be upset. Doesn't matter if it's a Tesla, Audi, Ford or Hyundai, you expect a certain quality in this day and age, if they aren't hitting it they need to be called out, just as any other automaker would be.
Stop the silly defence force and come to grips with the fact this feedback is GOOD, it will only help with the future build quality of Tesla's to be exposed to real criticism.
It's like saying that you don't need insurance because it don't affect 99% of people.
Handle bar or estetic build quality might not matter,
But security issue cannot be ignored.
For those brushing Sandy Munro's assessment off, Munro & Associates are highly regarded and sought after for their work. Dude knows his shit, and takes his craft seriously.
I hope you realise this is utter nonsense. Not only do I and many others I know check the body work on cars, we check for defects, paint swirls, sounds, vibrations and so on.
When I test drive a car I also push, prod, flick, poke etc elements within the exterior and interior to ensure the level of cabin and build quality, materials etc is up to snuff. If you're paying top dollar of your hard earned, and you'll be spending tens of thousands of miles and countless hours driving it, why the hell wouldn't you? If any panel is wonky, or there's an issue with the bodywork or interior etc, I'm rejecting the car unless they can fix the issue right away and guarantee the work.
Granted the Tesla Model 3 isn't exactly super expensive, but $32k is still not exactly dirt cheap either. Half decent build quality isn't something you have to look to the big 3 to deliver these days either.
But no one is allowed to trash Tesla. If I'm paying $100,000 plus on a car I better be getting my monies worth. I should not be getting any type of panel gaps. Same thing with that window issue.
What the.. Yes they do and no it isnt normal on 99% of cars. When a car gets repaired after an accident the first thing you notice is how terrible the gaps are compared to factory.
That's like saying a car lacking airbags is no big deal because 99% of the people won't use them.
So accessing the emergency power disconnect (in an electric vehicle) requires popping a hidden hatch, pulling out some wires and using a battery to jump the trunk release...
There are so many ways that could go horribly wrong.. what if the car was upside down
They could have just put it at the base of the windshield.
There are so many ways that could go horribly wrong.. what if the car was upside down
They could have just put it at the base of the windshield.
Holy crap, this guy is dedicated.
I didnt even know car manufacturers would even look "rattle" noises your car makes. I just assumed they would laugh at you every car ive ever driven has had a rattle noise somewhere.
While i agree with his over all message, the windshield, screen and fans were the only real issues, for me.
If every car you've driven has had rattle noises, you probably haven't been driving particularly well made or maintained cars. Obviously cars aren't going to be completely silent, especially on bumps and rough surfaces etc, where aside from the road noise, there'll usually be the odd rare or uneventful kink, clunk or tap, but consistent rattling? Certainly not. I think constant rattling would drive me mad lol.
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