Get out of my head.
The Bouncer's cast is so much underrated
I've never heard of this game but wow these are ridiculous even by Nomura's standards imo.
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Tetsuya Nomura's Character Designs - We already know the bad, let's talk about the good.
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Get out of my head.
I've never heard of this game but wow these are ridiculous even by Nomura's standards imo.
His work on FFVIII and the two PE games will always be my favourite. Squall and Aya perfectly encapsulate the 90s.
With that said, I like most of his work. The characters in mainline Final Fantasy are usually consistently great. His more questionable stuff comes from sequels and spin-offs, which I imagine he knocks out pretty quickly.
With that said, I like most of his work. The characters in mainline Final Fantasy are usually consistently great. His more questionable stuff comes from sequels and spin-offs, which I imagine he knocks out pretty quickly.
KH III Kairi is a great design....in his hands but not how it was rendered in the videogame.
The design team went too far in making her seem young and cutesy.
KH 3 Riku is also the best the character's ever looked even if he looks like a silver haired Sasuke/Noctis.
Aqua, Terra and Ventus are all iconic especially the armor. Aqua in particular.
1) No, Riku looked better with long hair, by far
This a million times over shittier Noctis. Which is hilarious because we have Yozora too now which is just kh 3 Riku but cooler.
2) Terra's artworks are far above the other two IMO, neo samurai X batman
Pretty sure Nomura was the one who personally chose Roen, back he was the Versus 13 director. In 7 and 13 there wasn't an outside group.
It should be noted, however, that 7 and 8 were some of the rare cases where the character designer was free to do whatever he wanted. In most games (FF13 for example), the character designer works based on the ideas and requests of the director. Motomu Toriyama had a lot of input on Lightning for example.
About 75% of his designs are good to great and he does a LOT of work. Including daddy Nooj that OP makes fun of:
The game´s story was shit but he was good. His disability wasn´t mishandled either. You know who also looks good? Tidus. All aspects of his design have a reason. There, I said it. I like Tidus in FF X but not what the sequels did with him.
Dirge or the Bouncer had many bad designs and his Batman and Catwoman statues a legendary awfully but he is by and large the 2nd best character designer in the business after Yoji Shinkawa. Just look how much he can do with just bouncers in suits:
Nomura is a legend and constantly evolves his craft. Not that I care for him as a director or producer and worst of all writer but he can design with the best of them.
Edit: About 50% of his directorial output is legit good. Not bad actually. A list of credits:
en.wikipedia.org
He directed Advent Children. I always forget that. That film, watch the director's cut, is good and holds up.
The game´s story was shit but he was good. His disability wasn´t mishandled either. You know who also looks good? Tidus. All aspects of his design have a reason. There, I said it. I like Tidus in FF X but not what the sequels did with him.
Dirge or the Bouncer had many bad designs and his Batman and Catwoman statues a legendary awfully but he is by and large the 2nd best character designer in the business after Yoji Shinkawa. Just look how much he can do with just bouncers in suits:
Nomura is a legend and constantly evolves his craft. Not that I care for him as a director or producer and worst of all writer but he can design with the best of them.
Edit: About 50% of his directorial output is legit good. Not bad actually. A list of credits:
Tetsuya Nomura - Wikipedia
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I love his KH3 designs for the characters in general, I just hate however how for story purposes everyone wears a homogeneous uniform and nothing truly distinct, except for Kairi hilariously enough. Αlso gonna be slightly controversial, but I think KH2 Cloud is the best redesign:
I love his KH3 designs for the characters in general, I just hate however how for story purposes everyone wears a homogeneous uniform and nothing truly distinct, except for Kairi hilariously enough. Αlso gonna be slightly controversial, but I think KH2 Cloud is the best redesign:
I liked Squall's even more actually.
KH3 completely destroyed this version of his design.
A tiny problem with him is that he is too detailed in his artwork and it took the tech ages to capture his vision:
Early-ish PS2 just wasn´t there yet. Especially with the colors/contrasts and CG Tidus was kind of a mess. Or look at Auron´s face:
He needed a PS4 to get these right, not a PS2. Here is the Ehrgeiz design for Cloud btw, perfection:
Early-ish PS2 just wasn´t there yet. Especially with the colors/contrasts and CG Tidus was kind of a mess. Or look at Auron´s face:
He needed a PS4 to get these right, not a PS2. Here is the Ehrgeiz design for Cloud btw, perfection:
Anything Kingdom Hearts is definitely not good design...
Both her outfits are great designs anyway. Shame that one of the best FFXV characters didn't get her own episode in the end. Barely seen in the main game.
Simple and effective.
Lightning.
She's filled with Nomura stereotypes (asymmetrical outfit, excess belts), but it somehow just works for her.
Lightning, the thread.
Big +1 for all of those!I like his design for Jin
Jin's second form looks like a rejected boss from KH tho
Wait, that was a Nomura design? I thought that was Ferrari?
Both her outfits are great designs anyway. Shame that one of the best FFXV characters didn't get her own episode in the end. Barely seen in the main game.
About 75% of his designs are good to great and he does a LOT of work. Including daddy Nooj that OP makes fun of:
The game´s story was shit but he was good. His disability wasn´t mishandled either. You know who also looks good? Tidus. All aspects of his design have a reason. There, I said it. I like Tidus in FF X but not what the sequels did with him.
You know, I wonder if Nomura really designed Nooj at all. For FFX he was credited as "Character Designer". For FFX-2 he was credited as "Main Character Designer".
In FFXIII, Nomura was also credited as "Main Character Designer" and we know for a fact that most of the NPCs in that game were designed by other staff, for example Nao Ikeda who was credited as one of the "Character Art Designers".
KH 3 is what it is (solid game, shit story/presentation) but the designs are good and most importantly though through:
You can really see all 3 boys shine through in Sora´s design and demeanor. And the looks of Toy Story and Pirates 3. God damn.
People never give Nomura enough credit. He thinks way too much about his work and knows his fashions. Actual non-Japanese brands used his designs after all.
You can really see all 3 boys shine through in Sora´s design and demeanor. And the looks of Toy Story and Pirates 3. God damn.
People never give Nomura enough credit. He thinks way too much about his work and knows his fashions. Actual non-Japanese brands used his designs after all.
I guess it's true Ferrari is the main designer, but in the notes for Aranea it also mentions Nomura's oversight of her. Like he was the one who swapped her makeup colors for example, and Ferrari specifically says "variations" plural.
I'd be curious to know exactly how much Nomura lorded over him lol. But I digress, Aranea probably is a bit out there for this thread.
Nah, I loved how KH1 did away with the fur collar and made it a simple leather jacket, bringing it back was such a bummer.I liked Squall's even more actually.
KH3 completely destroyed this version of his design.
Maybe. It could be Shintaro Takai. It´s one of the two. Both do good work. The FF X-2 "Ultimania Omega" book may or may not sort this out. My Japanese skills are at a loss here.
He is also working on FF VII-1. Who knows about the game itself but the designs all work for me.
At least you'll always have your AC Cl- oh no, it's gone too.
D:
Well you can't win every time. :x
Nomura for sure designed Sazh Katzroy. Japanese media really struggles with black men (and women) for reasons we don´t need to get into but Sazh gets full marks from me. I even get to pull my half African-card here. I liked FF VII´s Mr-T and his Advent Children do-over but this is the way:
The FF XIII trilogy is what it is but I know who the most likable character was in the first game. Look up who his choco-chick turned into. Lol.
I just found out that Nomura did a Joker:
His best Batman design but still an easy mark for the loose pile. Ardyn but bad. Real bad.
Edit: Well, fuck me. The Joker even has a Red Hood look.
He did sooo many I never knew of. His Flash looks really good. I´ll give him that.
The FF XIII trilogy is what it is but I know who the most likable character was in the first game. Look up who his choco-chick turned into. Lol.
I just found out that Nomura did a Joker:
His best Batman design but still an easy mark for the loose pile. Ardyn but bad. Real bad.
Edit: Well, fuck me. The Joker even has a Red Hood look.
He did sooo many I never knew of. His Flash looks really good. I´ll give him that.
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I'm not gonna post my favorite characters that already appeared here (like Lulu, Fang, Rinoa, Auron, Edea, Yuna etc) so I will try to bring another ones:
I'll always say that Coated, blindfold Riku or KH2 Riku is the best version. Long hair suited him so well.
Noctis haircut should be just for Noctis, looks lame on other characters.
Noctis haircut should be just for Noctis, looks lame on other characters.
Also, how haven't people mentioned this mf in the thread smh:
One of my favourite FF designs by far (I also love the Amano take of him, as seen in my avatar).
She also had (like, during 2009) one of my favourite faces in a Nomura character in 3D. Pretty pleasant and surprisignly natural-looking for an anime character.
He screwed her up later in 2011 and in 2013, but yeah. Luna looked good as well (it's not a design by him, but it's clearly based on 2013 Stella).
One of my favourite FF designs by far (I also love the Amano take of him, as seen in my avatar).
A problem I have with his female characters, yeah. Remake Tifa is just the latest victim of stick legs lmao.
I really liked Stella's outfit and colour scheme.
She also had (like, during 2009) one of my favourite faces in a Nomura character in 3D. Pretty pleasant and surprisignly natural-looking for an anime character.
He screwed her up later in 2011 and in 2013, but yeah. Luna looked good as well (it's not a design by him, but it's clearly based on 2013 Stella).
Edea has an amazing design. Fun fact, it was apparently first made for VII, but was ultimately used in VIII instead.
Edeas head piece and side of face was based on his Sophia from Warring Triad concept art from ffv
I think Nomura is a really great character designer and honestly is underrated due to how memed he gets as people love to shit on his stuff. But as the thread shows, most of his work is really great.
How exactly are you looking at them objectively?
oh didn't know she already show up, I haven't played the dlc yet. she looks goodI'm guessing it might be her:
We only got a glimpse from the base KH3 game during the Verum Rex trailer. Might not be her, but seems most likely so far.
hey is there any proof he did some artwork for mario hoops? i know he is listed in the credits under Graphic Supervisors but is there any other proof out there?Behold, our lord and savior in Nomura style:
Nomura did the artwork for Mario Hoops 3-on-3!
I like the ones that aren't too busy looking and overstuffed with accesories. Like Aya Brea from PE1 or Yuna from FFX.
I think it counts, it's great! I just didn't know Nomura worked on this design :p
I'm not a huge fan of most of his work, Lulu is a nightmare, but I like Lightnings design and Aya's design is good shit
What about his Play Arts Kai takes on DC characters?
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God I would kill for a new Parasite Eve.
Simple and effective.
I mean a good one.
Just a remake with a good budget would be good already. Lots of people have never even tried it.
For a thread about posting good Nomura designs (and he has good designs) seems people are posting some of the same shit he has been criticised multiple times, even in the OP.
His old designs before he turned director and in modern times his xeno 2 villains are actually good and pretty contained designs. He needs supervision to get good ones now.
I will add that he is actually a REALLY good artist, that not amazing designer.
His old designs before he turned director and in modern times his xeno 2 villains are actually good and pretty contained designs. He needs supervision to get good ones now.
I will add that he is actually a REALLY good artist, that not amazing designer.
Meh, his DC designs did not bother me at all. Not sure why people scoff at them so hard when they are on brand for him, Square Enix, and DC. Not to mention fit the future anime aesthetic the line was aiming for. If Nomura came out and said he watched the Adam West Batman and made these then sure...
Have you people see some of the nonsense DC puts out canonically?
also y'all know you'd eat those designs up if it said Kingdom Hearts
Have you people see some of the nonsense DC puts out canonically?
I'm not gonna post my favorite characters that already appeared here (like Lulu, Fang, Rinoa, Auron, Edea, Yuna etc) so I will try to bring another ones:
Whimsical anime girl weirdness aside, I really love Vanille's character design. As someone who isn't attracted to women irl, I can say without feeling like a creep that her face and hair are beautiful. I love that this Nomura piece captures her joy and also hints at the determination that she develops throughout the game, and I kind of wish she had kept the darker hair that the original concept art has. A model that looks like it has the darker hair color is still visible in the pre-rendered trailer that plays when you first start up the game.
FFVIII + Parasite Eve is easily peak Nomura
Edea is probably my favorite design of his (I know it was a leftover from VII)
Edea is probably my favorite design of his (I know it was a leftover from VII)
1) No, Riku looked better with long hair, by far
This a million times over shittier Noctis. Which is hilarious because we have Yozora too now which is just kh 3 Riku but cooler.
2) Terra's artworks are far above the other two IMO, neo samurai X batman
Have to disagree on Riku. I can't take him seriously with that mullet. He looks too much like a pubescent Sephiroth from the OG Final Fantasy VII.
Depends on the anime and character.
Edeas head piece and side of face was based on his Sophia from Warring Triad concept art from ffv
*FFVI
And the metallic thing holding Edea's cape is based on Wrexsoul's
Announced today, his design for a PNG in XIV :
in game :
its a fair balance between the usual business of his design and the XIV aesthethic
in game :
its a fair balance between the usual business of his design and the XIV aesthethic