The AI and NPCs in Hitman 2 are ridiculously last-gen
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Yes. It is a stealth game for people who don't like stealth games, and the AI is even worse in this game than the last, as the suspicious people don't recognize you unless you stand near them for a long time.
My kind of stealth game is you get seen you fucking die, and this definitely isn't that.
You can even effectively run and gun the missions with a mouse. Obviously your score sucks but who cares about that.
My kind of stealth game is you get seen you fucking die, and this definitely isn't that.
You can even effectively run and gun the missions with a mouse. Obviously your score sucks but who cares about that.
It's worth noting that there are two types of AI in Hitman: crowd AI and NPC AI. They are very different things. Crowd AI is extremely barebones and they only react to very specific things (explosions, guns, etc). They also have a very limited set of reactions. Regular NPCs will investigate noises, pick up items, warn guards about suspicious items or activity, etc. Crowd NPCs will just cower, look at things or flee to their designated evacuation point.
I feel like you're admitting that you don't actually like stealth games. If you genuinely enjoyed being stealthy, you would choose to be stealthy even when you have other options. That's what I do. Hell, I even create self-imposed challenges like not wearing disguises, not pacifying anyone, only killing targets with "accidents," etc.
Also, I'm guessing you haven't played this on Master difficulty. NPCs detect you much more quickly and do a lot more damage.
I feel like you're admitting that you don't actually like stealth games. If you genuinely enjoyed being stealthy, you would choose to be stealthy even when you have other options. That's what I do. Hell, I even create self-imposed challenges like not wearing disguises, not pacifying anyone, only killing targets with "accidents," etc.
Also, I'm guessing you haven't played this on Master difficulty. NPCs detect you much more quickly and do a lot more damage.
What? I love stealth games and I love hitman, I think this game is great. Fuck outta here with this weird genre gatekeeping bullshit.
NPCs will chatter, guards will put the corpses in body bags and place them out of the way.
I don't really know what that means. I don't play many stealth games, but when I do I want there to be consequence to playing it poorly.
I've only played the demo thus far and did notice how weird the reaction to me launching a fucking dude into orbit with a failed ejecting seat was.
I was expecting a huge hubbub with people railing around the airplane to burst out and in this confusion I coolly walk away like a badass. Instead, nobody really reacted...at all actually as far as I recall? It was quite bizarre.
That being said, I still think the demo was fucking awesome and I'm picking this up soon. I'm sure it's not perfect but I'll deal with it, love old school stealth games.
I was expecting a huge hubbub with people railing around the airplane to burst out and in this confusion I coolly walk away like a badass. Instead, nobody really reacted...at all actually as far as I recall? It was quite bizarre.
That being said, I still think the demo was fucking awesome and I'm picking this up soon. I'm sure it's not perfect but I'll deal with it, love old school stealth games.
Unless the demo is a pretty old version, the people around the plane not only react, but they get stunned at what the hell just happened.
Especially given this is a training exercise with actors, and you just launched a poor innocent man out the stratosphere lol
I think that type of elimination is considered an accident to any spectators. As a result, it doesn't arouse any suspicion that anyone there might have been involved. Though, as mentioned, everyone in that one is an actor. Crashing the lighting rig on the crowd in the Paris level gets a much better crowd reaction.
I downloaded it and played both levels twice last week, it went that way for me both times. It could just be glitchy, I have no idea, but after that cutscene everything was completely normal for me. No reactions or anything.
And like I said, I'm not bashing the game, I'm actually buying it this weekend because the demo was fantastic. I just thought that (lack of) reaction was bizarre. It wouldn't affect my enjoyment of the game in any way.
That would be a weird bug because almost all the characters do react to that kill because they are all actors and you just killed one of them for real with that opportunity.
They even break character to insult you.
Mumbai mission is quite ridiculous lol. You clearly don't look like the person you are disguising yourself as. Game is designed around innovatively solving problems and a lot of solutions wouldn't work if the AI reacted 100% in a sensible manner, so I get why it's like that.
LOL, reminds me of the very first Splinter Cell game.
Move one pixel out of cover and it was instant mission fail.
That sure was "fun".
(Being kinda pedantic, as I actually enjoyed the game/franchise. But man those punitive stealth mechanics (esp. first game) were something.
When I played the demo the NPCs didn't really react to it too so if that's not intended it must be something with the demo.
That's the point of Hitman. It's more of a puzzle game but also a good stealth game. Not your kind of game doesn't make it for people who don't like stealth.
I think its something of the demo, because at the very least, they do this something like this (end of the video):
Yeah I just had a weirder-than-normal AI encounter in this game last night. I was dressed like one of the pit crew in Miami and I was in the hospitality trailer and turned on an ice machine that proceded to dump a bunch of ice everywhere. I get the "so-and-so has witnessed a crime" message, who then ran and told security, who then came in and immediately shot me to death.
Apparently ice machines are serious shit in the Hitman universe.
Apparently ice machines are serious shit in the Hitman universe.
Tried it out myself. The "fake" NPCs all stood in place looking at her corpse, the "real" ones went to get a guard, who then arrived, inspected the corpse and called it in.
Still not amazing, but not quite as laughable as the video would lead you to believe. As people have said, the game has rules that it tends to stick to consistently. If you were to, say, fire a gun or visibly kill the target with obvious intent, then the crowds will disperse. If it's an "accident" kill, they'll stay where they are, and look at the body in question.
Still not amazing, but not quite as laughable as the video would lead you to believe. As people have said, the game has rules that it tends to stick to consistently. If you were to, say, fire a gun or visibly kill the target with obvious intent, then the crowds will disperse. If it's an "accident" kill, they'll stay where they are, and look at the body in question.
It's a gamey game. The A. I. won't act like a normal human being, but rather act as expected from an NPC.
There are consequences if you play it poorly. You can run and hopefully find an exit, but it's not some cheap run & gun stealth sim
On HITMAN 2 or Season 1? On 2 they exactly what you said, they will get close to the plane and comment on it.
Hmm it's too little of the end to be able to tell although I can't recall the NPCs saying anything like this either.
