I don't know why Sega doesn't port these versions to consoles. I will pay Sega cash money. I have it right now.
The Android versions of Sonic 1 & 2 have been decompiled and can be played on PC
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Same reason why they haven't forced Atlus to port everything; they're dumb.
But we have these now, they work, and people are already porting them to everything. And since the mobile versions of these games are literally free on the Google Play store, everyone can have their port.
Haven't tried controller yet, but unfortunately this seems to only detect one direction input at a time. So I can't roll while holding forward. Anyone else have that issue?
Turn on input display in an emulator and you'll see the same thing in the original games.
What? I can absolutely still roll normally in an emulator, but not here.
What I mean is if left or right is pressed, pressing down does nothing. It is very clearly not that way in the original.
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Sonic the Hedgehog™ Classic - Apps on Google Play
SEGA's platform hit returns with Sonic The Hedgehog on mobile!
Sonic The Hedgehog 2 Classic - Apps on Google Play
Spin Dash your way through SEGA’s smash sequel - Sonic The Hedgehog 2
Download those to your phone and then download Skit and use it to extract the apk to your phone, and then drag & drop like normal.
Ah. Thought for a sec the old APK's from before the game went ad-supported were needed, but I was wrong.Sonic the Hedgehog™ Classic - Apps on Google Play
SEGA's platform hit returns with Sonic The Hedgehog on mobile!play.google.com
Sonic The Hedgehog 2 Classic - Apps on Google Play
Spin Dash your way through SEGA’s smash sequel - Sonic The Hedgehog 2
Download those to your phone and then download Skit and use it to extract the apk to your phone, and then drag & drop like normal.
Thanks for the help.
As it says on the GitHub, please consider paying to remove ads in the app.Sonic the Hedgehog™ Classic - Apps on Google Play
SEGA's platform hit returns with Sonic The Hedgehog on mobile!
Sonic The Hedgehog 2 Classic - Apps on Google Play
Spin Dash your way through SEGA’s smash sequel - Sonic The Hedgehog 2
Download those to your phone and then download Skit and use it to extract the apk to your phone, and then drag & drop like normal.
*sigh* why can't we just get upgraded widescreen versions of the 4 classic Sonic games on all current consoles? Widescreen makes so much of a difference.
God the Switch modding scene seems like a dream.
Also this is great, I'd like to play Sonic 2 Taxman version on not a mobile device.
Hmmm... I'll have to look into building this on a Raspberry Pi. That'll be a fun project.
I might rebuy the new versions if I ever really wanna play it on my phone again, but I doubt I will.
Like I said, I already paid for the older versions of the apps, back in 2013. I did get my Sonic 2 data file from that older app, but I couldn't find the Sonic 1 app as easily. I've found it now from my Google Play library, but I was a bit stumped.
I might rebuy the new versions if I ever really wanna play it on my phone again, but I doubt I will.
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You don't need to rebuy anything, you own the copy already.
The new versions just require you to unlock the ad free option if you wanted to actually play ad free on your phone. But you're not playing on your phone, so you're covered by your original purchase.
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Yeah, it turned out to be an issue with my USB devices. I had another device plugged in that was being detected as P1 instead of my controller. I disconnected it and it was fine after.
I finished both Sonic 1 and Sonic 2 earlier tonight, it was a great time. Unfortunately I had some problems with random crashing (mostly in Sonic 1, though Sonic 2 did crash a few times in Metropolis Zone Act 2) and Sonic CD seems to just crash whenever I load up any stage. I'll have to mess with it more tomorrow to see if I can get anywhere with it.
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I've been thinking about messing with Sonic CD since I haven't found a complete list of the differences between the Steam version and using the decompiler to run the game.
Stealth told me a little while ago that he wasn't sure why they didn't get console releases, but he had a hunch it might've had something to do with the Nintendo exclusivity deal for Lost World and the Boom games. Both the Sonic 1 and 2 remakes were released when the deal was in place.
Eh, I'm not so sure about that. Even if that was the case for the other consoles, during that same period, they released the 3D classics versions of Sonic the Hedgehog 1/2 on the 3DS. If Sega had wanted the mobile versions ported to consoles, there's still no reason for them to have not done it then to 3DS.
There's also the more recent rereleases on e.g. switch that have things like the Drop Dash added but not the new zone(s?).
It's important to remember that Sega doesn't own the Retro Engine, Taxman does. So if they wanted to use it, they'd have to pay extra money. I'd assume Sega just thinks it's not worth it because emulated versions were already available on other consoles.
Sega doesn't own GigaDrive presumably either (MD emu for 3D Classics), M2 would. I think it's more they just went with M2 for the 3D Classics stuff and decided not to bother with more console/PC Taxman ports after Sonic CD. Keep in mind too Taxman only did the mobile versions of that too, CD on PC/console was then contracted to Blitworks.
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Sweet. Mine are going to be separate so I can give them their own exe icons and Launchbox/Steam entries.
looks like you'll have the option to do either when you compile it
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Mine are in separate folders now, so this isn't surprising.
Sigh, it's sad we never got these ported to console. :( They look so good.
And while we're at it, being reminded of the mess Sonic 3 & Knuckles is in. :( Sigh.
Sega are stupid.
Really wish Nintendo would release that Switch Pro just so I can use my old one for homebrew stuff like this.
And while we're at it, being reminded of the mess Sonic 3 & Knuckles is in. :( Sigh.
Sega are stupid.
Really wish Nintendo would release that Switch Pro just so I can use my old one for homebrew stuff like this.
Just wanted to note that the Data.rsdk files from the current Android releases do some really weird things with controller mappings, where the B button is double-mapped to both jump and pause. If you don't want to use the B button anyway (it's Sonic, all the buttons do the same thing) that's fine, but if you do want a functioning B button, you'll need to find older versions of the Android apps to avoid this issue.
For Sonic 1, that means you want version 3.5.5 or older. For Sonic 2, you want version 1.3.5 or older. These are about six months old (July 2020), so if you got the games back then and haven't updated since, you should have the files handy already.
For Sonic 1, that means you want version 3.5.5 or older. For Sonic 2, you want version 1.3.5 or older. These are about six months old (July 2020), so if you got the games back then and haven't updated since, you should have the files handy already.
Bug fix update is out
looks like the next update will include a mod loader and the custom menus.
looks like the next update will include a mod loader and the custom menus.
The F2P versions of the games are available for download on their respective Sonic Retro pages.
Sonic the Hedgehog (2013 game)
Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (2013)
Just download the games, open them with 7zip or Winrar, extract the Data.rsdk file, and place it in the same directory as the .exe for the decomp.
Cool! Thank you!! :)The F2P versions of the games are available for download on their respective Sonic Retro pages.
Sonic the Hedgehog (2013 game)
info.sonicretro.org
Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (2013)
Just download the games, open them with 7zip or Winrar, extract the Data.rsdk file, and place it in the same directory as the .exe for the decomp.
i did it! Finally I'm playing Sonic 1 & Sonic 2 in widescreen on a tv! If only my 7 year old myself could see this
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Hey, this is rad. I've never actually played Sonic 1 before on account of the lack of Chaos Emeralds and spindashing, had no idea this existed. Pretty cool!
Although these Special Stages are really really annoying. Half the time I blast through the checkpoint and pass up the ring entirely, and it's too late to go back.
Although these Special Stages are really really annoying. Half the time I blast through the checkpoint and pass up the ring entirely, and it's too late to go back.
There are like...98 versions of Sonic 1, 2, 3 and Knuckles that are patches/remasters and such like this. Are these the definitive versions? Is there an equivalent patch that could be applied to the Genesis games such that they could be played elsewhere or on an Everdrive or on your own console/via your own cartridges or something?
Every time I see these things, they just piss me off because there's no way I could pay Sega for a collection of perfect final releases.
Every time I see these things, they just piss me off because there's no way I could pay Sega for a collection of perfect final releases.
The emeralds were actually always in sonic 1 but only 6 of them, this release added the 7th and supersonic. You are correct though in that Spin dash was not.
These are the definitive versions that is why it was infuriating that they were trapped on phones. Sonic 3 and Knuckles has Sonic 3 complete that can be ran on a Genesis but that lacks Wide screen. Sonic 3 AIR is a widescreen version that has many of the Complete features and can fun just from buying the steam version.
Hoping one day Sega gets off their butts and does a Taxman collection. Give him the reins to Sonic 3 & Knuckles (redo the soundtrack if you need to) and bundle it in with Sonic 1, 2 and CD for modern consoles.
This is great... though they only seem to run in borderless full-screen mode.
Has anyone managed to get them running in full-screen exclusive mode so that G-Sync works?
I recommend using RTSS to set a limit of
But using the NVIDIA Control Panel to set a limit of 60 is probably fine too.
I agree that it's unfortunate these remakes don't have better filter options.
Aside from the scaling, none of them can emulate proper transparency effects for example.
Has anyone managed to get them running in full-screen exclusive mode so that G-Sync works?
You need to use a frame rate limiter with Sonic 3 AIR.
I recommend using RTSS to set a limit of
59.923 as I think that's the most precise limiter available which will work with the game (technically the Genesis runs at 59.922751013551)But using the NVIDIA Control Panel to set a limit of 60 is probably fine too.
I agree that it's unfortunate these remakes don't have better filter options.
Aside from the scaling, none of them can emulate proper transparency effects for example.
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I mean, it's not like Sega has a full MD based alternate soundtrack free of rights issues for S3 ready or anything...
So why they didnt port it with that alternate soundtrack?
There is no new port because they will have some problem with both the soundtracks (or SEGA being SEGA), a "mania 2" thats a stealth "3&K port" could do the trick but...
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Sonic 3 AIR and Complete* also have functioning Switch ports, but you need your console homebrewed. There's also Sonic 2 Community Cut which came out like two days before this decomp that's essentially the AIR version for Sonic 2; I don't think that's been ported anywhere yet though since it relies on a specific emulator.
*Not 100% sure on Complete
Why does or doesn't Sega do anything? Mania 2 is such a no-brainer and that didn't happen either. Same with porting Taxman's 1/2/CD to current consoles & PC.
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CD is on PC already; the Steam version is the Taxman version. Only 1&2 weren't brought over.
Sure but it could still use not being stuck on PS360. Hopefully there's a secret Taxman S1/2/3K/CD collection headed everywhere for the delayed anniversary this year.
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Don't think there's a Taxman version of 3, and Sega hasn't been keen on porting it due to the music rights. The closest you're probably going to get to a modern console experience is when these games get ported to Xbox via the dev mode on those things. Or someone might whitelist it briefly to get it enabled for retail mode like people have been doing for Retroarch builds.
I did try that, and it will be smooth for a few seconds at a time. But I get periodic stutters that way.
The game itself should be doing the frame limiting. Really hoping AIR goes fully open source some day, since I think features like this would be more likely to be added by pull request.
Someone added an "Enhanced" scaling option to the 1 & 2 Decompilation that is basically a sharp bilinear upscale. Looks so much better than AIR's Soft 1 and 2 shaders.
It's possible that a limit of 60 in the NVIDIA Control Panel is just not quite low enough to prevent the game's own (bad) limiter from kicking in, since that appears to limit the game speed but not the frame rate.
I do recommend RTSS set to
59.923 but setting the NVIDIA one to 59 might work.
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