The Dems took the House. Should they work with/compromise with the Republicans?

[Coyote Starrk]

Pretty simple question. I saw that Pelosi was already talking about bipartisanship and those comments received mixed reactions across the board on both sides. I'm just curious what Era's stance is on the subject.



So do you think the Dems should try and work with the Republicans?


I am of the opinion that the Republicans are the ones that should compromise. Either they do it the Dems way or not at all when it comes to anything in the House. Otherwise full gridlock and obstruction. Some things are just not negotiable.

 

[fanboi]

No.

 

[KillstealWolf]

I rather see Republicans work with Democrats first.

 

[hotcyder]

god no

 

[Gernau Morat Gurgeh]

God no.

 

[StarStorm]

Hell no.

 

[Slaythe]

No. Straight hell for 2 years for republicans.

 

[Zen]

She says bipartisanship but most likely she's just rubbing it in their faces.

 

[DigitalOp]

should they open their mouths and let Republicans piss in it?

Yeah for sure.

 

[danm999]

On what?

Maybe an infrastructure bill or something?

Otherwise there's very little they should be coming together with the GOP on.

In fact I'd say a good chunk of the reason they won the House is because voters put them there to stall the Republican agenda.

 

[Ithil]

Fuck no.

 

[SillyGoose]

Yes. I don't want nothing to be done for two years. Give up the wall for DACA is one thing I'd be ok with.

 

[Vela]

This is some Weimar republic thinking right there. Dems & liberals really want to do a Paul von Hindenburg all over again?

 

[corasaur]

There's not really room to compromise on most issues. The faction of the republican party that believes government programs should not exist has won. It's not "market based solutions vs government-administrated solutions" any more. it's "government that tackles problems or just let rich people and bigots do whatever?"

 

[TSSZNews]

I mean, they're going to have to if they want to pass anything they want to get done.

I wouldn't call a +5 or even a +10 advantage a mandate for any sort of obstruction, especially when a fair number of those Dems are moderate or come from moderate areas and won't obstruct for the sake of obstruction.

If they don't try to work at least the basics out, it'll be back to full GOP control of Congress in 2020. Bank it.

 

[Bobson Dugnutt]

On infrastructure, maybe if something can be done early enough. It was one of the only remotely OK things that could have come from his presidency, and we haven't even had that. No, everything else.

 

[Sean]

Fuck no. Block every single thing possible. Republican polices are all 100% garbage and should be stopped at every single turn.

 

[SmokeMaxX]

Nah. Talk up bipartisanship for the next two years, create a huge amount of ridiculously liberal bills, and investigate Trump/the GOP. They're going to blame you for obstruction anyway. It's ridiculous to play their game. Don't be so scared of losing your seat that you're going to defer to Republicans.

 

[Tzarscream]

In theory: Yes, everything would be better with cooperation and would lead to less polarising statements and stances.

In reality: No. Republicans have such extreme ideas that cooperation to enable them would damage the country and the world. Also Republicans have no intention of playing ball and will use any underhand tactic in the book to get their way.

 

[Keasar]

Show the Republicans no fucking mercy for all these years of racist, homophobic, sexist, anti-people, anti-environmental motherfuckery.

 

[danm999]

I mean, they're going to have to if they want to pass anything they want to get done.

I wouldn't call a +5 or even a +10 advantage a mandate for any sort of obstruction, especially when a fair number of those Dems are moderate or come from moderate areas and won't obstruct for the sake of obstruction.

If they don't try to work at least the basics out, it'll be back to full GOP control of Congress in 2020. Bank it.

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Now that they have the power to introduce bills, they should be making the Senate and Trump knock back popular shit every opportunity they can and tell voters exactly whose fault it is.

 

[AstronaughtE]

There will be some things that naturally work out. Seems like it wouldn't be a terrible idea to squeak a couple bills by to the Senate that you're certain they'll kill just to avoid some of the inevitable labeling.

 

[Static]

I think they should do whatever they think is best for the people they represent. I don't think an ideological position of "no compromise" makes any sense. By all means, make no stupid deals. And if that means no deals at all, then so be it. But do not pass up opportunities to do good for purity's sake.

 

[louisacommie]

There's not a single worthwhile thing that be offered

 

[Patrick Bateman]

This is some Weimar republic thinking right there. Dems & liberals really want to do a Paul von Hindenburg all over again?

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What?

 

[Deleted member 8593]

Don't compromise on basic fucking human rights.

Everything else is up for debate.

 

[BDS]

 

[Deleted member 3093]

Republicans can compromise, but Democrats should not, no. Compromise with combative politicians is a part of why we got into this mess in the first place.

 

[Conciliator]

Policy that benefits their constituency and the general public is above all, but with regards to Trump & co., it's pretty clear at this point that there is some seriously shady shit there and they should not back down on investigations and that element of things regardless of how hard the GOP pushes back.

 

[Dekim]

The media is going to go with the GOP's framing and blame Pelosi and the Dems for the bulk of the gridlock that will happen over the next 2 years. Anything less than 100% capitulation to Trump and Mitch McConnell will be viewed as "obstruction." The media, going full bore with their "both sides" framing and pathological need to prove they are not liberal biased are more than willing to help the GOP in this regard.

 

[loquaciousJenny]

Dems shouldn't compromise but they shouldn't act like the vapid cunts leftists want them to, that's our job as the people to act like bile. The representatives are supposed to turn out anger into something workable not act the same fucking way

 

[Orayn]

Burn it all down and salt the fucking Earth

 

[NullPointer]

I think they should do whatever they think is best for the people they represent. I don't think an ideological position of "no compromise" makes any sense. By all means, make no stupid deals. And if that means no deals at all, then so be it. But do not pass up opportunities to do good for purity's sake.

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[Deleted member 8777]

Tear them apart.

 

[El Bombastico]

Cause that worked SO WELL for them in 2008...

 

[Lentic]

I think they should do whatever they think is best for the people they represent. I don't think an ideological position of "no compromise" makes any sense. By all means, make no stupid deals. And if that means no deals at all, then so be it. But do not pass up opportunities to do good for purity's sake.

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The problem is letting the Republicans use their tactics to win PR and then reverse again.

 

[Wallach]

They probably will on a few things while pulling the rope their way as much as they can. Pharmaceuticals, infrastructure are going to be hard to justify not engaging in some bipartisanship. Not much overall, the base wants them to fuck up Trump mostly.

 

[Benita]

They should do whatever is best for the country on any particular issue.

Fuck this partisan nonsense.

 

[Megawarrior]

Hell the fuck no

 

[lexible]

Until Dems get to steal a Supreme Court pick from the Republicans, anything goes as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Garfield]

A commentator on the BBC noted this morning, and I thought it was quite right, Trump he feels will be hoping the Dems go full gridlock to shut him down, as to Trump that gives him every bit of ammunition he needs for 2020, every bit of bad news will be an attack ad on the Dems did this by blocking my mandate

 

[Twiz]

Grimlock is my favorite Gen 1 transformer.

They'll have to work together eventually much to the dismay of some voters.

 

[Tukarrs]

I think Democrats not standing firm on issues is part of why there's so much voter apathy. Why bother voting if they're going to compromise anyway?

No compromises.

 

[Deleted member 2809]

No compromise with the party of rape, pedophilia, racism, homophobia and nazism.

 

[SugarNoodles]

A commentator on the BBC noted this morning, and I thought it was quite right, Trump he feels will be hoping the Dems go full gridlock to shut him down, as to Trump that gives him every bit of ammunition he needs for 2020, every bit of bad news will be an attack ad on the Dems did this by blocking my mandate

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We have GOT to stop buying into this notion that the right needs "ammunition"

The right creates ammunition out of thin air. NOTHING we do will change that.

 

[TheUnseenTheUnheard]

Yes. We need to continue functioning as a country.

 

[Axe]

No.

I don't think Nancy really means it either. She's pretty shrewd, and probably just paying lip service to keep things calm until January.

 

[Coyote Starrk]

They should do whatever is best for the country on any particular issue.

Fuck this partisan nonsense.

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So we should just forget who and what the Republicans are?

 

[Brinbe]

Have a goddamn backbone. We need them to get this right to have any chance of winning in 2020... The scary part though is that Trump's been normalized now. We've just seen that despite all the monstrous things he's said/done over the past few years, there are millions that still gladly support and have validated him, especially in places like Florida/Ohio. It's worrying.

 

[loquaciousJenny]

No.

I don't think Nancy really means it either. She's pretty shrewd, and probably just paying lip service to keep things calm until January.

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Exactly, what's the fucking point in having a representative democracy if we only want a fucking shouting match for everything. We shouldn't pay people to act on impulse like we do, I'd rather have a direct democracy than pay motherfucker to do what I'm already doing.