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The Division 2 Sales Fail To Meet Ubisoft's Targets On PS4 And Xbox One
- Thread starter chadskin
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The market doesnt have a problem with GaaS games. They're talking about an over saturation problem, too many choices for and money being spread thin. One of the unexpected market competition games they referring to is no doubt Apex Legends.
No. There was always going to be new entries to The Witcher, Elder Scrolls, Assassin's Creed, Zelda, etc.
True, but then D1 didn't launch in a world with PUBG, Fortnite and APEX.
It was always going to be a more difficult sell in the current climate
That's ashamed as I have really enjoyed it, but the campaign needs serious work! I want my protagonist to actually talk!
Itt: ppl who think td2 was a massive flop bc it didn't have snow
Truth is that it didn't miss expectations by that much, they expected to move I believe 19 million total units. (All Ubisoft games) and they moved 18 million, even if we say that was all entirely due to td2 that's not that big of a miss
Personally I'm looking forward to underground expansions that should debut at e3
Truth is that it didn't miss expectations by that much, they expected to move I believe 19 million total units. (All Ubisoft games) and they moved 18 million, even if we say that was all entirely due to td2 that's not that big of a miss
Personally I'm looking forward to underground expansions that should debut at e3
If they going to release the avatar game with the film(end of 2021), they couldnt be giving more time to division 2.
If plans were TD1-TD2-Avatar, they couldnt have done TD1-Avatar-TD2. Releasing an avatar game 2 years before the film wouldnt have make any sense.
Is this another one of those Square-Enix situations where it sold well but they were expecting a ridiculous amount?
I think they are admitting to that mistake, without admitting to it if you catch my drift.
Incredible game, but sometimes expectations are out of control. Best soundtrack of the year, easy. Most fun of the year so far. Everything about it really is incredible and everyone should play it if they're considering it.
Weird! I'm seeing a large lean to PC.
Strange how PC gaming growth is not showing what your saying at all.
it literally sold inline with the first, one of the most hyped games of the generation without steam and in the world you mentioned above. Sales on PC are strong, no doubt!
Just think....NO Steam!
If TD2 can't even meet sales expectations then either Ubisoft's expectations were fucked or GAAS is doomed, I don't think it's realistically possible to launch a product like this in a better state.
It certainly feels like there is a shift in the market. Fortnite has really eaten up a huge chunk of the market. XBL most played games is indicative of how a handful of evergreen titles such as GTAV, R6S, Roblox (obviously Fortnite) have dominated the top10 this gen. There is only so much time.
Also, this is the first major Ubisoft title in a while to fail to meet expectations, WD2 being the last one.
Also, this is the first major Ubisoft title in a while to fail to meet expectations, WD2 being the last one.
Imo repeating whole elaborate set of activity is not necessarily grind if the activity itself (and by extension the whole game) is designed with that replayability in mind.
I see grind as something like farming materials by killing enemies, going around to respawn them, then kill them again and so on....i.e. doing an activity that's not as elaborately designed or even designed in the first place but you do it anyway to gain the advantage and because of how monotonous it is it feels like you are slogging/grinding your way through.
But what do you say when the game has activities themselves that are elaborately designed to be played from start to finish repeatedly. I think there needs to be a certain distinction to be made between these two even if on the surface level they are the same.
It will be more successful due to the increased commitment in terms of additional content as time goes by.
TD1 also didn't have Fortnite to compete with which many people seem to ignore for these sorts of games.
Maybe its due to people are done buying new games for the XB1 and ps4 unless its something new or big? Holding off for next gen consoles?
Did they not factor Anthem into their sales predictions?
They must've had some unreasonable expectations if, even with Anthem's lacklustre performance, they still managed to overestimate their sales potential. I would think Anthem not soaking up as many sales as expected would make the difference with any reasonable prediction.
They must've had some unreasonable expectations if, even with Anthem's lacklustre performance, they still managed to overestimate their sales potential. I would think Anthem not soaking up as many sales as expected would make the difference with any reasonable prediction.
Idk, I thought it was a tremendous improvement over the first game.
If it wasn't for the museum's DC would be a boring ass setting though.
Progression in the game works amazing. You can find improved gear and guns everywhere. There is no cap on powerful gear (looking at you destiny)
Matchmaking for everything raids (still looking at you Bungie)
They should be proud of this game.
Unfortunately we live in this fortnite world fucking Everything up.
If it wasn't for the museum's DC would be a boring ass setting though.
Progression in the game works amazing. You can find improved gear and guns everywhere. There is no cap on powerful gear (looking at you destiny)
Matchmaking for everything raids (still looking at you Bungie)
They should be proud of this game.
Unfortunately we live in this fortnite world fucking Everything up.
Yup that's exactly why the PC market is shrinking......oh wait.
Having no idea about this game other than it is another Division, can someone explain what is "boring" about the setting? It's Washington DC, right? That sounds interesting to me.
I skipped Div 2 because I didn't enjoy Div 1. Not sure why the setting bears any blame.
I skipped Div 2 because I didn't enjoy Div 1. Not sure why the setting bears any blame.
I can see that, I always used grind as doing the same activities over and over, then used farm when farming mats and stuff. Again I don't see grinding as a negative, some of my most favorite experiences in games this gen have been loading up the strike play list in destiny and grinding it for a few hours while relaxing.
It deserves more success in my opinion. It's my current GOTY. Really fantastic game.
That criticism comes from people who either didn't buy that game or just played the beta. The setting in Division 2 is great, especially the designs of the strongholds. It doesn't have that dreary snowy New York feel that Div 1 had but it does have an interesting weather cycle and missions taking place in museums are really fun.
That criticism comes from people who either didn't buy that game or just played the beta. The setting in Division 2 is great, especially the designs of the strongholds. It doesn't have that dreary snowy New York feel that Div 1 had but it does have an interesting weather cycle and missions taking place in museums are really fun.
I think the location is actually pretty great once you dive into it. They did an amazing job recreating the city.
Anecdotal but I think the negative impact of Anthem affected GaaS as a whole. Here me out. I know many folks who felt so betrayed and bothered by that game who swore off looter shooters in general.
After a month or so of Anthem alot of my PS friends didn't go back to Destiny 2 and decided against Division 2. Probably a good game but guilty by association.
Many folks are just tired of the genre not taking innovative steps and just creating an uninspired addicting game loo all for greed. But who knows.....
After a month or so of Anthem alot of my PS friends didn't go back to Destiny 2 and decided against Division 2. Probably a good game but guilty by association.
Many folks are just tired of the genre not taking innovative steps and just creating an uninspired addicting game loo all for greed. But who knows.....
Feels like any game that doesn't out do its predecessor in an immediate and explosive way is looked at as a disappointment. Its ridiculous and unrealistic expectations given how many more games now from every direction are demanding more and more of the player's time.
Matchmaking for everything but raids, I didn't type that? Maybe I just thought it.
I mean I get it, I wouldn't expect matchmaking for a raid.
Don't be daft.
Shall I put it differently? People want a better pay-off for their time investment than repeatedly playing the same pieces of content, earning the same rewards, weapons and armours but with higher numbers on them, until the numbers are eventually high enough that they can progress.
That's the loop with Destiny, the Division, Anthem. I think people are tiring of that wheel.
I stand by what I said previously, they should've stayed in NYC. Kept it in summer, expanded into the whole of upper Manhattan, added half of Brooklyn and the Bronx, expanded the subway system, and they could've rolled all content forward seeing as many didn't play the content released after launch.
I took a chance on this game and ended up disappointed after about 10 hours, couldn't get into it at all
I was done with GaaS after Destiny 1.
The second they announced a sequel to what was supposed to be a "10 year plan" I vowed not to sink any significant time in any of these games again.
I'm surprised the genre is doing as well as it is, to be honest. They need to lower their expectations, if sales aren't meeting them.
The second they announced a sequel to what was supposed to be a "10 year plan" I vowed not to sink any significant time in any of these games again.
I'm surprised the genre is doing as well as it is, to be honest. They need to lower their expectations, if sales aren't meeting them.
Bingo. I bought the game but I already have Fortnite to play as a live game, and on top of that, I also had Anthem the month before... and still dabble in Destiny 2.
It's hard to keep doing this.
It s a great game. I've been having fun with it. But it's release definitely lacked excitement and hype.
I think gamers are generally burn out on GaaS shooters at the moment.
I think gamers are generally burn out on GaaS shooters at the moment.
Right. It doesn't make sense to make ultra challenging content aimed at 1% of players and simultaneously hope that it will bring people to the game. For every one person it serves, 99 others are twiddling their thumbs wondering why they should bother. I think resources are almost always better aimed at content that will serve a wider number of people.
Yeah, didn't TD1 sale like 6M early on or something? Unless official numbers are out there on sales and Ubi tells us what they expected this report is mostly useless. I love this series with all it's warts and the understanding that Massive will never give me the perfect iteration of the game I want nor the one any other player wants and the fact that this game will change a ton over it's lifespan (with the toughness/armor/health systems being at the center of most of those changes).
Compared to how things were PCs are borderline plug and play these days. It's so easy dare I say even a child can figure it out.
Major publishers must be living in fantasy hard-on land when making predictions about sales for their gaas shooters.
Whether the individual thinks it sold well or not is irrelevant, the relevant fact is that Ubi say it sold under expectations, and what ramifications that may have on the franchise.