The ending for Pirates of the Caribbean 2 was the hypest shit back then
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For a good amount of time (like, an entire summer I guess, felt like it was longer at the time lol) this and Pirates 1 were the best shit I'd ever seen. They're the Monkey Island films we'll never get. 1 is amazing but I fucking love Dead Man's Chest, and I'm glad to see a lot of folks in here saying it's also their favourite. Davy Jones and Barbossa are still two of the sickest characters of all time. Just really great villains with iconic performances. I can remember being in the cinema and freaking out at the ending. It was extremely good.
I think 3 is quite good in hindsight if a bit messy and uneven, but 4 was a real letdown and I've still never seen 5.
I think 3 is quite good in hindsight if a bit messy and uneven, but 4 was a real letdown and I've still never seen 5.
I always thought "Oh, the villain from the first film? How's he going to help, he's just going to be evil again".
So it sorta fell flat for me.
So it sorta fell flat for me.
I remember it being fun, but really didn't care for Elizabeth's character suddenly being able to fight better then 75% of pirates. Wish they just would have used a new character or zoeys character for that, felt too disjointed, but I was never a big fan of Elizabeth and will.
Yes it was hype inducing and the movie was fantastic. I still to this day can't watch the third one without falling asleep, such a letdown.
Now I've rewatched Pirates 1-2-3-4, still enjoyed good parts of 3, it's a mess and too long but it has some fantastic scenes.
It took me a whole freaking day to rewatch On Stranger Tides, it just couldn't keep my attention. It's a shame that Penelope Cruz and Ian McShane were wasted on such a weak entry.
Finally watching Dead Men Tell no Tales for the first time right now, and it has a much stronger start already. The music helps. It also look distinctly different from the other ones. The image is clearer, colors really pop, I think I like it. Alright dropping the phone now and watching the rest, I hope it stays at this level for the rest of the movie, I kinda feel like the same sort of energy the original had.
it was hype, but made me feel like the 2nd film hadn't really gotten started until he showed up...
(I only like the 1st film)
(I only like the 1st film)
Im rewatching 3 now and just can't get over how good these movies look and how enjoyable they were.
Can Verbinski please get out of director's jail already
Can Verbinski please get out of director's jail already
It really is kinda of insane how the visual effects cross the original 3 films still largely holds up. Davy Jones always gets brought up (and for good reason) but honestly all three movies have some incredible CGI work.
Yeah, as someone who overall has mixed feelings about the franchise, this moment legit remains one of my favorite I've ever had in a packed theater.
Also, does it maybe say something about getting older that, as time has gone on, I find myself much more drawn to the character of Barbossa than I am Jack Sparrow?
Also, does it maybe say something about getting older that, as time has gone on, I find myself much more drawn to the character of Barbossa than I am Jack Sparrow?
The world is just so cool in the series, even if they didn't make another sequel i'd have paid good money to have the live action Little Mermaid set in that world.
Never even saw 5 because 4 was so bad. In fact, one of the only things I even vaguely remember about 4 that i kinda liked was the whole idea that, given the first opportunity, Barbossa would abandon the whole code and pirate lifestyle to become a privateer because of course he's just shamelessly out for himself.
Do you mean the scene with Will and Elizabeth at the end of 3?
That's the one with Javier Bardem as the bad guy.
I've never seen it either. The 3rd one was a slog but the franchise really lost me with the 4th, where they somehow managed to make a shit movie despite the casting coup of Ian McShane as Blackbeard. Unforgivable.
I watched it last night and it was surprisingly good. I had a good time and wasn't bored for a second, which is great after the borefest that 4 was.
Though I'll say that Jack has turned into too much of a buffoon. People were drawn to him in the first film because you couldn't tell if he was an idiot or a genius, and that's what made his legend. Now he's just an idiot. Still entertaining, mind you, but yeah.
I also thought I wouldn't like the new, younger cast but the new girl is pretty great.
It's a shame it was less successful than the fourth one because it's really better. I'm okay if it's the last one though.
Yeah he was supposed to be able to stay home based on the lore (if you see a flash of light his time as the ferryman was over). I heard the newer one changed that to him just visiting and he arrives when his kid is an adult.
Yeah, the fifth movie had Will still aboard the Dutchman.
One of the writers for At World's End said that Will was released from the Dutchman at the end of the movie due to Elizabeth remaining faithful to him throughout the ten years but he wasn't involved in the fifth movie so the idea was discarded.
Makes sense. I remember how much we debated the ending, if it was a happy ending or not. Kind of sucks they decided it was better for a sequel if the curse didn't lift but I need to watch the new movie first before judging.
Johnny Depp during the filming of 5 was going through the Amber Heard days, so his acting here wasn't up to perfection either.
Yeah but I didn't think he was bad. As a comic character he was great, and to me the issue stems more from the writing than his character.
Wut
First time I've heard of this, and it's pretty dumb from the writer
At no point in Pirates 3 is it stated that the curse is lifted, or that it would be lifted if Elizabeth remained faithful (wtf is that). It's repeated thoughout the entire movie that the curse is forever, with only 24 hours granted on land every ten years. Why would it be repeated so much if actually the curse would only last ten years? At no point in the movie is there something about faithfulness being able to break the curse. It was all set up to give a bittersweet ending, that was the whole point.
Honestly it's the first time I see that people interpreted the ending differently.
It was a bit subtle.
A flash of light signals the end of the curse. As long as she remains true to him, unlike what happened to Davy Jones, the curse will be lifted.
There's a flash of light in the after credits scene and he arrives with her waiting for him at the shore with their son, implying they succeeded where Davy Jones failed.
It was a bit debate on the internet when the movie came out.
Edit: from IMDB:
It is mentioned in the movie that real love can free the captain of the Flying Dutchman from his duty. This immediately sparked a fan theory that Will Turner would be set free when Elizabeth awaits him in the post-credit scene, when he comes on land after his first 10-year stint on the Flying Dutchmen. Support for this theory became stronger when word got out of a scene cut from the final movie, in which it was explicitly stated that Davy Jones's curse was prolonged indefinitely because Calypso did not greet him after his first 10 years. However, this suggestion wasn't followed, because Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales (2017) shows Will still bound to the Dutchman 12 years after he became its captain, and follows the exploits of his son Henry trying to lift the curse.
So basically it would have been clear cut but they likely saw potential for the sequel already.
Still many of us on Team Happy Ending took it as canon despite the scene being cut.
I rewatched the movie the other day and at no point it's said or even implied that the green light means the curse is lifted. It just means he's coming back for his 24 hours vacation.
It was cut scene. I misremembered it as being in the film. It was 15 years ago in my defense.
Ah, okay sorry. For some reason it wasn't in the cut scenes available on Disney+.
I watched those movies all the time on DVD so maybe it was on the disc.
Now I can see why it was interpreted differently. But I always thouth Will's son was a hook to justify a sequel. It's just weird that 20 years have passed in the movies and only 10 in real life :p
I guess discovering the fountain of youth did have some effect on Jack because he's supposed to be 60 years old in Pirates 5, and I wish I'll look like that when I'm 60 xD
The PoTC section in KHIII was based on the 2nd movie and on these scenes? I watched it when I was a kid, but I don't really remember anything from it. I guess I know what I want to spend several hours on today.
The Pirates movies are some of my favorites. I don't care how silly they got. They are just fun. I watch them all the time.
Back in 2006, people really loved seeing people eat apples, especially in a messy way.
it's hard to explain, you just had to be there
No, they skipped the second movie to go straight to the third. Thats why they meet Jack again when he's already dead and in Davey Jones' locker.
It's definitely not the last one, since these movies print money. Even the 5th one was still huge overseas even if it dropped off a bit domestically.
Since Depp's apparently out of the franchise it'll be interesting to see how well the next one does, both at the box office and just as a movie. I like the Sparrow character but he's been a bit long in the tooth for a while now and the franchise could use a fresh start, even as that came about through rough circumstances.
i still can't believe 4 is the most expensive movie of all time, its like half the visuals and action of 2,3,5 and they didn't even film it on location like 1-3.
Mermaid scene was literally the only memorable part.
How the fuck do you make
boring who has a sword that controls winds, ship that can shoot fire and a crew hyped up as voodoo zombies?