Anyone find any good articles or interviews on this game? I really dug Waypoint's spoilercast but haven't seen much else.
See this is probably why ND is happy with the outcome of the game. I can't think of the last game where we had 3 OT Spoiler Threads. It has been more than a month and we're still discussing this game 😅
A few I have liked:
Justice, Freedom, and The Self: What Ellie Sacrifices (and Salvages) in The Last of Us Part II
A thorough exploration of the game’s narrative implications
medium.com
Broken People, Broken Worlds: Thoughts on The Last of Us Part II
PLEASE NOTE: This piece is intended as post-game reading. It discusses plot events in detail, including the ending.
medium.com
The personal experiences that Lev and Yara’s actors brought to The Last of Us Part 2
"I would take a hammer to the arm for any of my siblings, and I know they’d do the same for me."
www.polygon.com
The Last of Us Part II Shows a Gender Double Standard for Violence
Ellie's violence in The Last of Us Part II feels like it's judged more harshly than the equally brutal violence of her father figure.
www.fanbyte.com
Have you listened to the official podcast? I found that really good.
https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aH...uZm0vdGhlb2ZmaWNpYWx0aGVsYXN0b2Z1c3BvZGNhc3Q=
And even when it dies down, you know people will still discuss it for years to come.
Personally, I wish we had a permanent discussion about TLOU2 here until Part III comes out (if it does, if not - then until 2030. or something).
Okay game, you should have been able to kill Abby at the end though, and then Dina is still at the farm and they get ice cream.
I had the privilege of being the last post in the previous thread... so forgive me for reposting lol
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That other review thread is something else. Are there any other games where the "ludonarrative" critique is applied to outside of TLoU and Uncharted?
I never thought gameplay should necessarily be considered canon for the story, but I do believe the gameplay should convey a sense of tension, horror, danger, excitement, wonder, fantastical, etc., that complements the themes presented by the story.
Of course, any game that blends the lines of gameplay and story in a meaningful and FUN (emphasis on FUN) way should be lauded. In my opinion, TLoU:II succeeds on this front.
IMO, TLoU:II is the absolute best at using gameplay as a means to create urgency, direness, danger, and tension that a world as fucked as it is in TLoU universe demands. These feelings carry over into the story presentation that allows for maximum narrative impact.
For example, the zombie chase after the subway sequence. My heart was fucking pounding and my stress levels were screaming flee, flee, flee. Finding safety and agreeing with Dina to take shelter inside of the theater game me real stress relief.
Literally, I took a deep breath of relief and my heart rate dropped. Then my heart rate rose again after that relief was shattered by the realization Dina is indeed pregnant. A real sense of overwhelming fuck took over and I felt exactly as Ellie felt.
This is one example of many over 25+ hours why TLoU:II is mastercraft. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. There are other examples of mastercraft stories in games from this generation. Games like God of War and TW3 belong in this category. But TLoU:II stands tall above even those two. It's an amazing achievement and hopefully this takes game storytelling to the next level next-gen.
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That other review thread is something else. Are there any other games where the "ludonarrative" critique is applied to outside of TLoU and Uncharted?
I never thought gameplay should necessarily be considered canon for the story, but I do believe the gameplay should convey a sense of tension, horror, danger, excitement, wonder, fantastical, etc., that complements the themes presented by the story.
Of course, any game that blends the lines of gameplay and story in a meaningful and FUN (emphasis on FUN) way should be lauded. In my opinion, TLoU:II succeeds on this front.
IMO, TLoU:II is the absolute best at using gameplay as a means to create urgency, direness, danger, and tension that a world as fucked as it is in TLoU universe demands. These feelings carry over into the story presentation that allows for maximum narrative impact.
For example, the zombie chase after the subway sequence. My heart was fucking pounding and my stress levels were screaming flee, flee, flee. Finding safety and agreeing with Dina to take shelter inside of the theater game me real stress relief.
Literally, I took a deep breath of relief and my heart rate dropped. Then my heart rate rose again after that relief was shattered by the realization Dina is indeed pregnant. A real sense of overwhelming fuck took over and I felt exactly as Ellie felt.
This is one example of many over 25+ hours why TLoU:II is mastercraft. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. There are other examples of mastercraft stories in games from this generation. Games like God of War and TW3 belong in this category. But TLoU:II stands tall above even those two. It's an amazing achievement and hopefully this takes game storytelling to the next level next-gen.
Crazy that we're already on thread 3.
I'm still disappointed in the game - that Ellie and Abby can't suplex enemies.
I'm still disappointed in the game - that Ellie and Abby can't suplex enemies.
Such a mediocre game - I mean who cares if it does completely novel things with the medium, humans were telling stories in caves.
Great idea! Kyle Bossman's one should be here too! (I'm on mobile :()
Completely agree with all of that. The gameplay works incredibly in tandem with everything in the story and they are symbiotic.
Ellie jumped with no much power that her arm phased through the pole.
That was really awesome though.
All of that and the hood never slides off. Style.
The spoiler thread reaching Part III should be proof that we deserve a Part III.
Please Naughty Dog 😭
Please Naughty Dog 😭
Finally grabbed that Platinum a few days ago. Even though I had just beaten the game, playing through it again was super emotional. Such an expertly made game. Sheesh.
HmmmMe waiting the next 7 years for TLOU3.
That's just cruel. You literally forced that woman to watch as you killed all her friends.
Spoiler Thread number 3!!
I'll take this opportunity to post my favorite Abby fancam on the first page (don't judge me).
I'll take this opportunity to post my favorite Abby fancam on the first page (don't judge me).