The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword HD announced for Nintendo Switch, available July 16th, special edition Joy Cons, new button controls
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I am fucking excited to replay Skyward Sword. It was fantastic the first time round.
Hot take: the motion control and forcing you to attack in the right direction with every enemy means this has the best, most involved combat of any 3D Zelda game, even/especially Breath of the Wild.
Hot take: the motion control and forcing you to attack in the right direction with every enemy means this has the best, most involved combat of any 3D Zelda game, even/especially Breath of the Wild.
Awesome. I'm actually interested in trying the motion controls again, but it'll be nice to have the button alternative
Hoping for those obvious QoL improvements, too. Should be a lay-up for Nintendo but they often miss those.
Sure, with the difference you don't need a special controller to play the game because the default ones are capable eneough, unlike with the original release.
Yeah Skyward is the most fun I've had with the combat in a Zelda game.
A bit facetious since the addon required was relatively cheap, and cheaper still when bundled with the game at the time. Importantly its more about the value then compared to now. This game is quite old now, and for many people it may just not be worth that very high price on Switch, especially when you already paid for it on another Nintendo system - which is where I am right now, so I'm opting to just not buy.
Up to you if you think its good value or not, but the image makes its point well imo, demonstrating Nintendo's woeful pricing that often pushes folks away amongst so many poor choices.
Bummer I missed Best Buy and Gamestop Joycons. I turned on notifications for Warios Twitter so hopefully I'll see when Amazon goes up.
No it doesn't make its point well because you still needed the addon because you couldn't play the game from the get go. I don't think it's good value for me because I already own the game probably the same for anybody else who already owns it, maybe the game at $60 is good value for somebody who never owned it. And let's not pretend this particular game is a outrageous or even a surprise when Link's Awakening was released at the same price and if it was the reason "that often pushes folks away amongst so many poor choices" then they would be doing bad with the other ports and remasters released at the same price, sure it's bad but the general consumer doesn't seem to care.
I don't remember skyward swords opening but was it worse than Twilight Princess?
I hated that beginning, having to herd those bulls, fish for that cat and find those kids, shit took forever
I hated that beginning, having to herd those bulls, fish for that cat and find those kids, shit took forever
Unfortunately no. And when you return them for repair, they don't guarantee you will ge the same color joycon back. Luckily I have gotten all my colors back, but have never sent a special edition in. I would hope they return these if it came to that, but it is a gamble.
The part manufacturer that could make this happen doesn't exist
How has there not been a revision already? wtf
Well this makes me feel better if I don't land the Zelda joycons.
I'm sorry but Activison remade the entire Spyro and Crash trilogy from the ground up and sold both at 40 dollars for a bundle of THREE full blown games. I wish people would stop buying these overpriced ports. The games are great...but cmon.
I thought the Links Awakening remake was a rip off too, but at least it required effort put into it.
I thought the Links Awakening remake was a rip off too, but at least it required effort put into it.
I mean, breath of the wild's sword combat is very basic imo, other 3d Zeldas have much more fun sword combat imo
really hoping both 2 they improve sword combat and introduce new techniques
Crash and Spyro are no where near Zelda quality. You're lying to yourself if you think Activision wouldn't have sold all three for $60 seperately if they thought they could get away with it
Agreed
Is the zelda game with one of the highest highs of the series but it has the lowest lows too
It is a great experience (heck, the desert is worth everthing)
yeah I only mention BOTW cos I love the game otherwise and it's by far the most acclaimed. But I don't think its sword combat is particularly engaging, and I can't say previous 3D Zeldas have had good combat systems too. They're all very one note, which is why I really enjoyed SS's!
Lmao so basically Nintendo games are the only games allowed to be sold 10 years later for 60 bucks a pop
no matter how you cut it they are an INSANE value compared to 60 dollars for skyward sword
Was able to snag the Zelda Joycons through Best Buy earlier. I might be more excited for those than the actual game lol. They did a great job designing them and I think they complement each other well.
everyone is allowed 🤷♂️
but seems that people will only buy the nintendo games
the bigger issue i have versus the $60 price point is the effort that goes into these titles. tww hd was a tech demo turned into a full release, but it had some quality of life improvements and some miiverse stuff added. it's arguably the best version of the game even though, arguably, it looks worse than the gamecube version.
twilight princess hd added an amiibo dungeon which is legit new content. bizarrely it doesn't let you use wii motion controls at all despite there being all the reason in the world for it to have that as an option. i think the wii version remains the definitive release as a result.
skyward sword hd is getting an additional control method which is great for accessibility. but unlike with tww hd, and similar to tp hd, there's nothing that addresses the core issues of the game, which aren't the motion controls but the pacing. this is easy to do in tww hd and ss hd, where tp's issues are more structural (namely, the boring start).
the real missed opportunity was super mario 3d all-stars. i think a nintendo of 20 years ago would have made it a flagship title. as you collect stars and shines, you unlock art and bonuses and other mario games (like mario bros. for the 50th time or even super mario galaxy 2 as a super secret special bonus). but this had the feeling of covid fucking up the development cycle on a number of major games and needing to create something to fill the gap. so this is wound up filling the gap.
Eh, they're good games, but you can finish each trilogy in around 15 hours each. They're certainly pretty though. Skyward Sword is a 50 hour game and this new version runs at 60fps (Crash and Spyro run at 30). I hope we saw more 60fps 3D Zelda games in the future.
I mean, Zelda brand or not we are talking about Skyward Sword here.
I wouldn't say that this game being longer necessarily makes it better. I just can't recall the last time we've had a game launch for 50 dollars 10 years ago and then get launched again 10 years later for 60 dollars. Sounds greedy as fuck
Would I like this game? I like breath of the wild. I haven't beaten it yet, but I plan to. Likely going to use walkthroughs to make sure I progress at a steady pace vs dropping the game for 7 months.
But yeah. It seems like an interesting game
But yeah. It seems like an interesting game
I only bring up length to address the whole "value" thing. Crash and Spyro collections are actually really short considering you're getting three games. Each trilogy combined is about the length of a modern platformer. For $40 though, they're worth it.
I mean you can buy an online multiplayer game and have infinite hours. Doesn't mean it's a better buy then any other game ever. Fact is three separate full length titles for 40 dollars is pretty unmistakably better than one for 60 dollars, especially since they even took the time to rebuild the former from the ground up with entirely new assets. This HD remaster likely had a significantly smaller budget than either of the Crash or Spyro remakes
Love seeing you popping in some threads now that you have a Switch. Keep it up!
It definitely had a smaller budget. Goods and services aren't priced based on cost though. Also, three full games are not automatically better than one full game. We'te not going to agree on this though, which is fine.
It's very different from Breath of the Wild in the sense that it's linear and far more story focused. I think it has the best narrative and characters of any Zelda game though. It made me quite emotional in the end.
What you lose in freedom you make up in brilliant dungeons, music and story.
This is the nicest thing I've ever read on a gaming forum
Yeah I don't think you're going to be able to explain why a 50 dollar game released 10 years ago should be bumped up in price to 60 dollars in 2021.It's just not something I can wrap my head around regardless of how I think about it
The joycons look fucking amazing but no way I'm spending more money on those shit controllers unless I'm forced to...
Why do some films from the 50's still cost $20-$30 to own on disc. Pricing doesn't work the way you think it does. Since you brought up " value", certain films, artists, IP, etc. hold more "value" than others. If Skyward Sword HD isn't appealing to the market, it will underperform.
You mean fancy physical editions with nice new artwork? I could buy the remastered movie digitally for a fraction of the price. There's no option for that with this lame ass remastering lol
No, there plenty of classic films sold digitally at a premium.
Skyward Sword holds a special place in my heart not only because it's the last new Zelda game I thoroughly enjoyed before the series went in its new direction (I thought ALBW was decent but nothing special, and I strongly disliked BotW since it removed everything I loved about the series), but because it released at a really rough time in my life that had caused me to pretty much give up gaming for months. It pretty much reignited my gaming "spark" and provided a lot of joy during a really difficult time. So I was ecstatic when I saw it pop up on screen during the Direct.
I know it's got its issues...the pacing, the reused bosses, Fi being annoying as hell, and so on. But it's still one of my favorite games of all time. I've wanted to replay it for years (though I'm admittedly scared it won't be as great as I remember) but I've been waiting for a remaster since the Wii graphics really haven't held up well.
So it's likely going to be a rare day one purchase for me. I agree that $60 is just Nintendo greed and it really should only be $40 at most, but it's a very special game for me that I want to relive. Plus at this point, the remasters are pretty much the only place to get the old-school Zelda gameplay that I loved for so long, since BotW is the new style for the series in the future.
I know it's got its issues...the pacing, the reused bosses, Fi being annoying as hell, and so on. But it's still one of my favorite games of all time. I've wanted to replay it for years (though I'm admittedly scared it won't be as great as I remember) but I've been waiting for a remaster since the Wii graphics really haven't held up well.
So it's likely going to be a rare day one purchase for me. I agree that $60 is just Nintendo greed and it really should only be $40 at most, but it's a very special game for me that I want to relive. Plus at this point, the remasters are pretty much the only place to get the old-school Zelda gameplay that I loved for so long, since BotW is the new style for the series in the future.
Which ones? And even then, what makes you think I would be buying an outrageously marked up movie? I never said Nintendo is the only company prone to doing greedy ass shit
This post doesn't actually mean anything. You can't just say, "Zelda brand or not," and think that helps your argument.
And yes, we are talking about Skyward Sword here -- a game with a 93 on Metacritic.
I mean, also a game that launched for 10 dollars cheaper around 10 years ago...
The point is you don't understand how pricing works. The entire capitalist system is driven by greed. PlayStation isn't less greedy for selling you a bunch of software that collapsed after a few months on the market for $20 a pop. Pricing is based on maximizing profitability. That's it. I understand being frustrated as a consumer, but you and a bunch of others on Era have this weird notion that Nintendo is somehow more greedy than the average publisher. They are not.
Do we know for certain this is true? They didn't mention what QOL or changes were done to the game.
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