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This stuff is incredible to me lmao. Microsoft is offering to continuing COD on PlayStation and expand it to other platforms, like they did with Minecraft, as well as adding it to subscription services to make it cheaper for consumers and have an objective third party arbitrator and the counter argument is "they might add bugs."
Thank you for the post Idas I have something to read in the office now ❤️
The idea that MS being legally beholden to technical parity would be meaningless as it could sabotage the game after release via an update doesn't even make sense, as if it did do so, it'd instantly be in breach of those terms.
this kinda cemented the merger in favor of MS for me really. Like are Sony just playing on the ignorance of the CMA? Yes let's sell people a product then make it bad at the end as a secret. It'll be a great prank and totally not turn people off our game that sells butt loads on PS.
Just to remind people sony will say anything to stop this deal no matter how outlandish it seems. And they will pray on the CMA not having a full grasp on the intricacies of game development to seed worry/dought that MS will pull a quick one on them.
That's what I would do anyway lol
That's what I would do anyway lol
exactly, they are lawyers, swing for the fences and hope some of the shit sticks.
Them being unreasonable has gotten them a lot more then they would of had if they didn't say anything.
But yes, the whole intentional bugs and sabotage thing is pretty ridiculous.
They mention instances from 2004 and 2009, then include Bethesda as a 'not technically an agreed on thing, but goes against their messaging beforehand' aside at the end.
The best part for me is:
The CMA never considered MS' remedies in their PF.
Well, no, their counter argument to 'adding it to subscription services' is that the (redacted) terms offered for that are economically unviable for anyone but MS with gamepass, who can account away the cost internally in a way competitors can't - which would make these games defacto Gamepass exclusives, something they say MS's own words indicate as a goal of the acquisition.
Sony's arguments about bugs might be reaching for a circumvention risk re. a behavioural remedy, but it's not the extent of their argument at all. Their argument is mostly just elaborating and adding colour to issues and risks the CMA already provisionally warns about, which you'd expect from Sony.
I means it's cod? How many people do you think play minecraft.
It's funny because they contradict themselves. They admit that Call of Duty is a game often purchased in first few weeks of release but then suggest that Microsoft could severely hurt the PlayStation versions in "later updates."
Yeah the concept of MS intentionally making the PS version of the game buggier is weird. However that they might stop using the PS specific controller features isn't that strange and would be a degradation for Sony that wouldn't actually be prevented with the parity agreement.
I was just thrown off a bit. I knew COD was important but I didn't realize how much. I can see why they are fighting it so heavily now.
I don't understand, if it's not a behavioural commitment, why does it matter if they said one thing and did another? I know the intuitive reason, "they aren't to be trusted" but if that was a behavioural commitment they wouldn't have went back on their word either.
The most interesting argument is the cod not being on ps plus because of the money that Sony makes off it.
So what do you do? tell sony to kick rocks and lean into the fact that cod on subscriptions will give consumers more choice at a better value.
Or block because Sony's bottom line is more important and could cause disruption to one of the top dogs in the video game market.
So what do you do? tell sony to kick rocks and lean into the fact that cod on subscriptions will give consumers more choice at a better value.
Or block because Sony's bottom line is more important and could cause disruption to one of the top dogs in the video game market.
It's also twisting words. Microsoft was obviously talking about that they won't remove existing ZeniMax games from rival stores, they never committed to not making games exclusive. Even the EC pushed back against this when the FTC said it.
Where are you seeing that? That seems disproportionately higher than all other metrics mentioned so far
I think Sony is suggesting that if it's not in the behavioral commitment then it is a free for all. That is in the section talking about how difficult it will be to enforce the key parts of the behavioral remedies. So more pointing out that MS can talk the talk but won't necessarily walk it if they find a loophole in the agreement they will exploit it. Mostly trying to show that they don't really have an issue saying one thing and then behaving differently after the fact.
Sony's reply on the bottom of page 9. It goes with the part about how much licensing COD for PS+ would cost and them and how it would be way to expensive for them to run the service at it's current cost.
The wild grasps of a losing argument, but then again MS always had the stronger legal argument here, Sony might as well throw everything to see what sticks.
I am not, most gamers don't switch consoles if the version that they paid for buggy or is having problems, they just stop playing and assume the game is bad. Microsoft would ultimately damage the brand if they did this.
Just imagine a CoD match where every PS5 player has squeaky boots? Or a PS5 player camping in a corner with a nose whistle? This is just the tip of the iceberg. These are the end of days.
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MS is certainly going all in on this deal. It will not be for lack of trying if the aquisition is denied.
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MS is certainly going all in on this deal. It will not be for lack of trying if the aquisition is denied.
Lol hilarious spin on the Bethesda purchase. Sony need to hire better lawyers who used to work for MS.