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The President of the United States, Donald Trump, renews suggestions to arm teachers with guns.
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Because it "sounds" nice if you don't think too hard about it. This is just another play on the "good guy with a gun" rhetoric that Trump and the NRA right have been pushing for years. If only there had been a Good Samaritan with a gun then they could have stopped the killing, or if more people were armed then less people would commit crimes/go on killing sprees because bullets will be flying back in their direction, never mind that in a lot of these cases the shooter tends to take their own lives, or is planning on being killed anyway. And they point to a situation like Sutherland Spring, Texas where a guy with a rifle helped stop a mass-shooting, of course after 26 were already murdered.
But as was mentioned by the county sheriff where Parkland is, nobody seems to be asking the teachers what they want to do. And it doesn't sound like any of them want the responsibility of not only teaching our kids but also, should the need arise, killing one or more of them to protect the rest. That's completely unreasonable and certainly doesn't jive with what a school is supposed to be and puts a lot of unneeded pressure on the school for the potential of legal issues if a weapon is accidentally discharged, let alone injures a student or is simply removed from a holster in a non-life threatening scenario.
It's a short-sighted fix and while I can understand wanting a current or former cop/deputy/whathaveyou be a fixture at a school either as part of their patrol or stationed there, the suggestion of teachers having guns on them is simply the suggestion of desperation or ignorance.
This is the dumbest idea ever, and not just because of the politics.
Most teachers couldn't use a weapon properly, and have no desire to do it. Also it would increase shooting as teachers would go postal.
Most teachers couldn't use a weapon properly, and have no desire to do it. Also it would increase shooting as teachers would go postal.
Trump will then suggest students to bring guns to class as well
I imagine everyone who proposes an idea like this pictures the teacher quickdrawing, shooting the gun out of the kid's hand, then blowing on the gun's barrel and twirling it back into their holster as all the students cheer. You know, the way guns work in real life.
so what may happen next is that a teacher goes wacko and kills kids or a kid starts shooting and the teacher tries to kill him and kills others in the process. great idea trump. why not arm the kids instead.
It's not just that it's a bad idea to put guns into the hands of teachers. It's not that the cost of training and supply would likely be very high. It's not the question of if teachers could be trusted with such a responsibility. It's that the idea is bat-shit insane. It's Duterte-quality insanity. It's like a root canal with a jackhammer.
Can't rely on humans. Install autonomous drones in schools that shoot and kill anyone with a gun. I bet even with some false positives, there would be less fatalities than before.
Yeah, sure. You surely can trust the teachers, right?
It'll also make the kids feel terrified all the time knowing that something may happen in their school.
This is an absolute terrorism from the inside.
It'll also make the kids feel terrified all the time knowing that something may happen in their school.
This is an absolute terrorism from the inside.
Imagine a world where a kid runs into a school, kills some kids with ninja throwing stars and the best response is that the teachers should be trained to throw things back faster.
Fuck me America. When does this madness stop? You realise it flows through to conservatives in other countries who try to match the crazy right?
Fuck me America. When does this madness stop? You realise it flows through to conservatives in other countries who try to match the crazy right?
Might as well make schools military bases and make teachers go through basic training.
God damn this is an absolutely ridiculous and stupid idea, completely missing the point and the ACTUAL problem.
Nope, getting an assault rifle as easily as a chewing gum is not the problem - having the teachers unarmed and not ready to defend themselves and their students against other fellow students, that's the problem!
I'm astonished that so many people are completely oblivious to reality for the sake of defending ancient rules irrelevant to our modern times. Sigh
God damn this is an absolutely ridiculous and stupid idea, completely missing the point and the ACTUAL problem.
Nope, getting an assault rifle as easily as a chewing gum is not the problem - having the teachers unarmed and not ready to defend themselves and their students against other fellow students, that's the problem!
I'm astonished that so many people are completely oblivious to reality for the sake of defending ancient rules irrelevant to our modern times. Sigh
This is what happens when a racist with dementia gets elected president by his support base of equally mentally handicapped inbreds.
We are living in an Idiocracy / Black Mirror crossover episode
We are living in an Idiocracy / Black Mirror crossover episode
Old and busted: stealing a gun from your parents, or waiting 'til you're 18 to legally buy a gun.
New hotness: picking up a chair, textbook, or any heavy object in your school and smashing it over the head of any adult who is not looking at you, and being rewarded with a gun.
This idea turns any violent situation in the school into a life-or-death scenario for everyone.
New hotness: picking up a chair, textbook, or any heavy object in your school and smashing it over the head of any adult who is not looking at you, and being rewarded with a gun.
This idea turns any violent situation in the school into a life-or-death scenario for everyone.
They get new desks too.
The money men at the gun factory want this so they can have more personally wealth. So the second amendment is used as a shield of liberty to poison the population. Your president now sounds like he wants to introduce the poison into schools where your children grow up. Sorry America. If I win the lottery and got to choose where to live. The states would be way way down on my list. It's a polarised, dangerous, corporate greedy country. You don't look after our care about your citizens. You use the people for profit over everything. No thought for social care and justice at all. It's a mess
I expect a massive teacher strike at some point to try and stop the school shootings, and I feel like forcing teachers to be armed might be the shit to cause just that.
This is the dumbest fucking thing ever.
There are anywhere from hundreds to thousands of kids in schools.
All the shooter needs to do is walk around behind a hostage and any teacher who cares about their student is:
This is a dumbass half measure to MAYBE cause LESS deaths.
We don't want LESS dead children, we want ZERO.
Aim for ZERO.
Also, I wonder how teachers now feel about the fact that they will likely just be getting gunned down by attackers indiscriminately, "Just incase" they're carrying? Even if an attack was never meant for them or an attacker only had a single target, they're now likely to be shot on sight "just incase".
There are anywhere from hundreds to thousands of kids in schools.
All the shooter needs to do is walk around behind a hostage and any teacher who cares about their student is:
- at best immediately pacified.
- at worst dead because they've turned themselves into a threat that must be eliminated.
- at worse still, providing extra guns for the attacker to continue their rampage with.
This is a dumbass half measure to MAYBE cause LESS deaths.
We don't want LESS dead children, we want ZERO.
Aim for ZERO.
Also, I wonder how teachers now feel about the fact that they will likely just be getting gunned down by attackers indiscriminately, "Just incase" they're carrying? Even if an attack was never meant for them or an attacker only had a single target, they're now likely to be shot on sight "just incase".
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You remember how in the 80s and 90s crime was a big deal and to reflect that, movies featuring lone cops who go renegade to clean up the streets to get around the red tape, you know like Dirty Harry? This is the president literally trying to make that a reality, literally trying to get teachers to be some kind of badass John McClain motherfucker and stop school shooters
Edit: posted before I was done
Edit: posted before I was done
Your country is a slave to the NRA. Corporations over people. Perhaps one day the states will have its own revolution. Good lord it needs it, money over everything needs to change.
I'm a teacher, in a country that has banned guns, thank goodness, and if I had to work in a school with guns "evenly spread" throughout the campus, my first question would be "Where's my hazard pay?" Maybe that would be the second question after "What the fuck?" now that I think about it.
Honestly can you imagine the kind of fucked up teacher who would go along with this and bring a gun to a fucking school on the basis that they might shoot some kid who is going on a shooting spree.
At this rate, Trump won't even have to build the wall.
Who the fuck would want to leave their country and put their children in the United States education system?
Who the fuck would want to leave their country and put their children in the United States education system?
It gets crazier and crazier.
I have a solution. If you are not gonna ban guns then every child in America has to wear all over body armour. Funded by the NRA.
Anyone remember the movie Harley Davidson and the Marlboro Man? Well the henchmen wore shit that stopped bullets.
There ya go. Problem solved. Keep your guns and go crazy.
(This is a joke)
I have a solution. If you are not gonna ban guns then every child in America has to wear all over body armour. Funded by the NRA.
Anyone remember the movie Harley Davidson and the Marlboro Man? Well the henchmen wore shit that stopped bullets.
There ya go. Problem solved. Keep your guns and go crazy.
(This is a joke)
And how exactly do they intend for the teachers to have access to these weapons? Surely not with it holstered on their person, as I guarantee that will cause more deaths then there are right now. So what they're, stored in a safe in the back room? And honestly when is the teacher going to have an opening to shoot the student? While all the students are in a mass panic running around, while the gunmen is firing indiscriminately. Such a mindbogglingly dumb idea.
Also it would be pretty easy to see it happening that a teacher is grabbed, threatened to open the safe, and the student is able to access a fire-arm (If maybe they only had a knife) or simply more weapons/ammmo.
There's so many way this could go wrong.
Also it would be pretty easy to see it happening that a teacher is grabbed, threatened to open the safe, and the student is able to access a fire-arm (If maybe they only had a knife) or simply more weapons/ammmo.
There's so many way this could go wrong.
Ironically enough, there is some evidence out there that supports the idea that at least some communities/towns actually had STRICTER gun control back in those days.
Let that sink in for a moment.
