The Rise of Skywalker (2019) social media impressions
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Marvel earned it considering they actually build up to it.
Star Wars didn't it. They just decided to add everything they could to prevent the same mixed reaction from last time. Thankfully fans can see throught that and are calling them out.
Disney botched it so hard with this trilogy.
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Anyway, if this movie opens at less than $200 million (how much is it tracking?)
Heads are gonna roll.
Heads are gonna roll.
I'm not sure trading "this side of the fanbase is angry" for "the other side of the fanbase is angry" is a good trade.
Um you might spoiler tag that image. A few things on the "Light Side" could be considered spoilers.Updated with the newest batch of impressions. Quite the pivot.
These movies were made to make release dates. Looks like their luck ran out after Rogue One.
450 million+ globally according to deadline this morning.
If its not well reviewed I think it's a definite one sign of a kind of end of era for Star Wars. It's been limping around for a while, but that'll be a big sign that its definitely way past its prime and headed into a new phase where it's not going to be that big of a deal anymore.
Critics were willing to give certain things a pass before because it was a cultural milestone type of thing, but its losing that.
^Pretty much this.
Both sequel trilogy films have issues but they're still quality films at the end of the day with way more good additions to Star Wars than problems. And the problems that are there are mostly minor (with exception of Canto Bight).
The same cannot be said of the prequels. They're not even ironical good or so bad they're good. I just rewatched them. It was painful.
I'm looking forward to RoS, I'm sure it's going to have things I take issue with, but given how much I enjoyed TFA and TLJ, I think I'm going to be in for a good time.
At the end of the day, Star Wars films are not Blade Runner, they're not Citizen Kane... they're family fun sci fantasy movies that can appeal to everyone. If RoS sticks to that, it will be a plus in my book.
You know, the whole Trevorrow thing always felt like a complete knee jerk reaction on Disney's part over the success of Jurassic World.
"Well, this guy directed a nostalgia heavy revival of an old property just like what we're doing over here, he'd be perfect!"
Then Book of Henry came out and they realized what kind of director the guy actually was.
"Well, this guy directed a nostalgia heavy revival of an old property just like what we're doing over here, he'd be perfect!"
Then Book of Henry came out and they realized what kind of director the guy actually was.
Sounds like in the end, Disney may have fucked up by playing Star Wars way too much like Marvel. They're going for fan service stuff, when Star Wars doesn't work as well like that. You give the fans too much to work with in SW, mainly stuff with too close of ties to the OT, and it's just a recipe for disaster. Going the fan service/nostalgia ball tickle route wasn't the right call.
The sequel trilogy should have just been a brand new adventure. Having everyone start on a similar level with something fresh would have been smarter in the long run. Instead of releasing follow ups to an already intensely debated series with massive ranges in generations and tiers of fans to scream at each other.
TLJ was actually their biggest shot at this, but since it was connected still so strongly to the OT too it was destined to be ripped in half.
The sequel trilogy should have just been a brand new adventure. Having everyone start on a similar level with something fresh would have been smarter in the long run. Instead of releasing follow ups to an already intensely debated series with massive ranges in generations and tiers of fans to scream at each other.
TLJ was actually their biggest shot at this, but since it was connected still so strongly to the OT too it was destined to be ripped in half.
Nah Star Wars will live on.
But all this talk about them just undoing TLJ actually makes me fearful for the fate of the characters in a post IX world.
LFL clearly gives no shits if it means trying and pleasing the Tier 3
Don't get me wrong there will be a shit storm for about a year or two from now about this film (lol) probably (good or bad), but I think after that things will calm down.
Some people ramped their expectations through the roof thinking this trilogy would be the second coming of the OT after the success of TFA.
It will live on, but it won't be as big of a deal. It's well past its prime and its painfully evident.
This trilogy in some ways is going to be a painful decoupling for some people once they have to come to grips with that because this trilogy was the "great hope" of bringing back all the "feels" from the OT and it can't do that.
Yeah. I thought TFA was too safe but ok, and love TLJ and arguing with people about it in good faith, but the mainstream online discourse is poison. It's the same that prevents me from engaging in GoT discussions, even if I really disliked the ending and most people is theoretically on my side. It's a bitter consequence of some kinds of fandom.
I'm surprised JJ managed to fail in making his usual easy-to-please crap.
LOL, same. Even if I dislike it, at least we can all dislike it together unlike TLJ :P
Yeah I mean I agree, I'm just looking at this from a "what do I, myself, expect to get out of this film" kind of perspective. Not really looking at a community perspective, with that comment.
I like Star Wars, so I liked TLJ. But it wasn't my favorite. And if this new one panders more to the TFA side of things I'm, personally, okay with that.
Prequel territory huh?
This forum will burn lmao
But hey I loved the prequels .despite their evident problems ..maybe I'll have fun
Should Favreau get the next trilogy? Who is next in line? Johnson?
That's unfortunate. That's my exact ranking, 9 aside.
That's unfortunate. That's my exact ranking, 9 aside.
just cause you have that scene doesn't mean you have to pick up right there. Never once after TFA did I think the next movie would pick up right there, that's never happened before in this series. I always assumed we would get a time jump and the crawl would explain where we are, this is not rocket science. When I heard the movie would start right from that scene I was extremely confused.
That was way worse. I remember feeling like I had literally been punched in the stomach.
The idea of a bad Star Wars film at that time was unthinkable.
There's no fucking way X isn't being planned for the 50th anny coming up next decade
I like both TFA and TLJ, but I'll be damned if I didn't say that this trilogy could have been so much more. TFA was a great start for these characters, TLJ is a great movie on its own merits, but just... this conclusion, I'm not as excited as I thought I'd be.
I'm honestly more excited to see the conclusion of this Halloween trilogy after Kills comes out next year in 2021... which, fine, because I love both franchieses but... wow, I really thought I'd be amped!
I'm sure I'll enjoy myself opening night though but... just is a bit sad, I feel a bit bad for everyone involved. I think everyone, JJ, Rian, Kathleen, all had great intentions, truly. But... it just... overall, it's just unfortunate.
I'm honestly more excited to see the conclusion of this Halloween trilogy after Kills comes out next year in 2021... which, fine, because I love both franchieses but... wow, I really thought I'd be amped!
I'm sure I'll enjoy myself opening night though but... just is a bit sad, I feel a bit bad for everyone involved. I think everyone, JJ, Rian, Kathleen, all had great intentions, truly. But... it just... overall, it's just unfortunate.
Savage and funny to boot. The fairly visible amount of negative sentiment doesn't bode well.
Fair point. It was def worse. Guess l was more hyped for this than I thought.
If we head into the new decade a more just and fair world. Rian will get his own trilogy.
And pointless. You'd think film critics would search within themselves to express more than just, "Uh oh yeah it's just as bad as that other bad thing"
I remember actually being so stunned I turned off my computer and had to lie down, lol.
Then rationalizations started popping up like "well it's not gonna be Empire good, but it's still gonna be Jedi good, the critics are just being harsh and they don't like Jar Jar because they're stuffy adults and don't have the heart of a child" etc. etc. etc.
Fuck no. His writing and direction in The Mandalorian is bland at best.
I guess now we know why the cast was low-key shitting on TLJ during the press tour.
edit: you know what I think I need to take a chill pill and stop posting.
edit: you know what I think I need to take a chill pill and stop posting.