Everything in every piece of art says something, even if the artists themselves don't realize it.
Wrong. Bioshock has a certain message that Ken Levine intended to be along the lines of "no system is perfect, humans end up ruining even the best theoretical ideas". Ken Levine said that was the message. People have often misconstrued the message of Bioshock as being anti-altruism and pro-objectivism and some people have seen it the opposite way. We know from Ken Levine that both these interpretations are wrong. BUT, Bioshock and Ken Levine provided enough
depth to the game that it is plausible that while someone might come up short in understanding the true message that they somehow get lost within those layers of depth and come to these other conclusions.
Now let's look at a game with zero depth. Super Mario Bros. We see the theme of kings and princess etc.. in the game. Only someone with serious issues looks at Super Mario Bros and sees it as having a pro-message about monarchy and indentured servitude to the ruler. Yes the theme of monarchy is in the game. NO IT DOES NOT HAVE DEPTH.
I am willing to continue this debate with you when you have grown up and gained some maturity and in debate in a non aggressive manner.
You are incredibly condescending with your "Aren't you mentally exhausted" line.
You were never willing to have any type of discussion. Proof of this? 1) You wouldn't have literally instigated the discussion with a bad faith claim that I'm a man so "would NEVER understand". 2) You wouldn't have completely ignored 3 paragraphs of articulated rebuttals and then feigned offence at an innocuous comment at the very end to cop out of replying. You're not fooling anyone.
I mean I came into this thread with positive examples of characters I liked in the Sonic series, and the stuff I criticised was hardly this huge reach. I find it boring when a game treats "girly girl" as a character quirk, as opposed to just having characters that happen to be female. Ain't that much of a stretch imo
I don't even know what views you expressed in this thread because I
didn't seek you or your point out. I made an open comment about my view, YOU engaged with MY point. Not the other way around. Don't get it mixed up and create some false narrative that I somehow attacked your innocent views.
You came into this thread proudly announcing that you never notice gender and people need to stop getting offended by everything. You've typed sooooooo much which essentially just says "stop talking about this I don't care" without actually engaging in any arguments.
Are you incapable of honestly engaging a point without creating strawmen? You're beyond pathetic. Imagine if some did that to you. "your entire argument has been that you want more female cute video game characters so you can satisfy your fetish". It's not hard.
1) I didn't say I "
never notice gender". I said in games that lack depth like Mario gender is not something I notice.
2) I never told anyone to stop talking about anything. That's twice you stated this lie and twice I've corrected you. I'm just voicing my view about why these types of discussion are problematic.
3) I've systematically engaged every argument you and anyone else has made. Unlike you, so maybe take your own advice.