The Switch port of Final Fantasy XII is black magic
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All three were there but I believe you had to pre-order to get one of those (the OST version i think). In the PC & Switch & Xbox version you have immediate access to the three
This is a tempting one. Doing hunts and side quests on Switch is super appealing compared to playing this on PC. Hmmm.
This is music to my ears. The PS4 remaster was fantastic and I was a little worried that this might end up too big of a compromise.
Would it blow your mind if I told you that PS4 version was, in fact, based on the ps2 version?
Compression algorithms advanced a lot in 15 years. Also with better shaders nowadays there's a lot that can be done procedurally to use less data.
But yeah, impressive that they could fit all that.
As a game it is fine more or less, just the re-releases haven't been great.
Probably just a boat load of uncompressed audio and video on the PS4 version, just because they can.
I'm not gonna be as harsh on it as others, but FFX is vastly inferior to FFXII.
X-2 would be an amazing game as a standalone thanks to its amazing implementation of the garment grid and ATB. It's just a shame it was, storywise, awful
We're talking about a remaster of a PS2 game that comes in at 40GB on PlayStation 4.
ps2 game running on ps3 3.5 hardware total shocker.
I'm beginning to think any game running on the switch is black magic these days.
I'm beginning to think any game running on the switch is black magic these days.
Hmmmmm. I made it halfway through XII last time I tried to play it, but I've never gotten further than that; it just feels so grindy to me, and the combat is particularly slow (I wish it was more like XIV instead of XI tbh). Portability is a huge draw for me, though, and I've heard such good things about the game even though Ivalice doesn't really hold my interest. With the speed-up function, I might actually like it. If I wasn't a fan of the original, would TZA be worth it?
This rules. I've never played FFXII, so I'm really curious to try this out. Any tips/ suggestions from vets of the game?
People really going out of their way to be disingenuous ITT.
This isn't the PS2 version. It's based on the 40GB remastered PS4 version, and includes even more content besides, at a fraction of the size.
Generic lossless data compression techniques allow 50-60% size reduction.
1080p assets are 25% of the size of 4k assets.
So, if you're converting 4K PS4 assets to a Switch build that will output at 1080p or lower, you can reduce file size for graphics by 75% without any compression techniques.
It's not that amazing, what's more amazing is how lazy devs get in bloating their games nowadays. They get 100GB to play with and ship a game with 80GB that could be lossless compressed to 40-50GB, or to 20GB with 97% fidelity, just because they can.
It's lazy
1080p assets are 25% of the size of 4k assets.
So, if you're converting 4K PS4 assets to a Switch build that will output at 1080p or lower, you can reduce file size for graphics by 75% without any compression techniques.
It's not that amazing, what's more amazing is how lazy devs get in bloating their games nowadays. They get 100GB to play with and ship a game with 80GB that could be lossless compressed to 40-50GB, or to 20GB with 97% fidelity, just because they can.
It's lazy
Nevermind! Apparently jobs are changeable in this version. That will help greatly.
This has been my main concern. Based on what I've heard, it's at least a fair bit better than Dark Souls lol
Reading is hard. The thread is about compression and how it manages to look as great as the PS4 version.
The speed-up function is literally game-changing. Makes things so snappy and pleasant.
They're changeable in this version, so no need to be careful with job selection!
Unlike the original game, there are no important missables IIRC, so just have fun.
Oh! Well, then! Nevermind :)
I'll learn to read one of these days, I promise.
what
X is one of the best games in the series. X-2 has a weak story but the brilliant gameplay makes up for it.
Zodiac Age destroys the original for me. Fast forward eliminates basically all of the tedium.
Good to know! I think I'll look up some videos, maybe wait for TZA to go on sale (I don't make much money lol), but this is encouraging. I feel like I at least need to experience it fully, even if I don't end up liking it as much as a lot of XII fans do. Thanks :)
I actually cried tears of joy when i first played the PC port. It looked so crisp and clean and had so features. I am so tempted in buying a switch for this port...
I think the very minor differences in appearance and performance between a 12 GB cart and a 40 GB download are worth mentioning. The Switch has shown time and time again that compact, down-sized versions of many games perform very well, which goes against the grain where Xbox/PS4 console and PC players are concerned. So much emphasis on the highest quality graphics and resolutions makes it seem as if massive file sizes and the best possible textures are necessary for a good game.
Here's a 12GB portable version of a PS2 game with basically all of the PS4 bells and whistles built in. That is impressive even if you don't care about it personally.
Oh, damn. Forgot this was coming today. Bought! This was the last great Final Fantasy game if you ask me.
No, it's not. This was the one that got remastered for PS4/XBO/PC.
No, it's not. This was the one that got remastered for PS4/XBO/PC.
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Anyone saying it's a PS2 game have no idea what they're talking about
- There isn't anything much to miss out on so you can have fun however you want without fear of missing stuff
- You can customize the battle system however you want to: you can speed up the gauge in the option, and also make it fully real-time
- Gambits are valuable so you should buy what you need at the shop so you can customize them (though they're not mandatory if you don't want to program your team)
- You can respec your jobs so you don't have to agonize over it anymore
- There are a dozen weapon types and a lot of them doesn't have strength as their main modifier for damage. You should experiment having builds that focuses on magic or speed, experiment and don't focus on one single weapon type
- NPCs have a lot of things to say that are really interesting about the world, and they have new dialogue for almost every story beat, and they also don't say dumb shit so it's worth it to talk to as much people as you can to immerse yourself in this world and have a lot of context of what's going on around you
- There are sidequests in this game outside of hunts but they're not marked so you should speak to people to trigger them, they're not very important but fun to do nonetheless
- Enemies doesn't drop gils, they drop loot you have to sell and they allow for items int he bazaar to be unlocked in which you get cool stuff at a discount, you should prioritize selling loot in bulk so you can get bazaar stuff from time to time
- Stealing is very useful to earn money in this game, make good use of it as it is an innate skill of some characters
- There's no point in equipping the diamond armlet that gives better loot from chests, it doesn't matter and sometimes is even detrimental to receive the "good" loot in a chest
To be fair, this thread is full of people who think compressing video is 'magical'
X is way better than XII. It's a proper JRPG with a good story, not a MMO simulator set in generic fantasyland
I honestly would have purchased a Switch for this if iOS devices never got remote play. I'll still buy this when I eventually do get a Switch, because that job respec stuff sounds amazing, and since I don't think it's coming to PS4, it's the only place I'll get to try it. Great job by the team, looks like a fantastic port and I'm excited for it.