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The UK’s controversial porn block will go into effect on July 15th
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Wouldn't surprise me if they deliberately wait for subscriptions to reach a critical mass then make VPN's illegal/banned. All those people lose their money.
I know, and this is why this is fucking stupid.
There are so many porn accounts on Twitter and any other site that is "exempt".
As a Brit who moved out to the Netherlands, the UK sure is trying hard to make me not want to go back.
Wouldn't bother me at all. Porn is lame. I have no interest in seeing some random people go at it.
True story: Back in the 90's, my teacher in school was showing us how to set up free email accounts, and he spelled "hotmail" wrong.
We've got people right now protesting outside schools because they're terrified that their children are simply being allowed to know that LGBT people exist, can you imagine the uproar if they included porn useage in sex ed?
Jesus fuck just educate everyone about sex better. Lord knows it would do more good than regressive and idiotic legislation like this.
Actually thinking about it I wouldnt be surprised if pornhub starts throwing out masses of HTML pages for cat photos to circumvent the legislation, at least for a time
Actually thinking about it I wouldnt be surprised if pornhub starts throwing out masses of HTML pages for cat photos to circumvent the legislation, at least for a time
Okay I was maybe exaggerating. Did you know there is a sketchy porn site that is one letter away from Jackbox.tv, the url used to play the Jackbox series of games?
hmm... i guess that could explain this show recently (currently?) broadcast
https://www.channel4.com/programmes/mums-make-porn
I wonder what you will say when they will block something else that you might have an interest on.
This is not about porn, this is an initial idiotic step on controlling what can or cannot be accessed.
I just said it wouldn't bother me. I never said I am for the block. If I had to have voted for it I would have voted no for what it's worth.
But also.. I am an Aussie. Things are always banned and blocked here. I'm actually surprised the UK beat Australia to this. There's always ways around things. I miss torrent sites though.
Even if it doesn't bother you personally you shouldn't be dismissing acts such as this unless you believe all of the negative effects it will have "don't bother" you as well. This dramatically increases the risk of leaks regarding who watches porn and what porn they watch, and if that happens it will almost inevitably lead to ruined lives, suicides or worse. It's also an incredible breach of privacy being hidden under the guise of incredibly flimsy moral concern; you not being interested in porn doesn't change that.
You can, which is one of the hundreds of reasons it's considered to be dumb as fuck.
It just punishes the technologically illiterate.
To be fair, that is what it's supposed to do, for the record, I am not for what they are doing, but the premise behind it, that being to try and stop children having access to porn which is making young peoples ideas of what sex is a little extreme, isn't a bad idea per say.
Porn isn't making young people's idea of sex into something extreme, the lack of any form of meaningful sexual education is. The UK's results-focused education system has meant education about less 'academic' things has been almost completely abandoned, and that includes things such as "LGBT+ people exist", "how to practice safe sex," and "what is consent?" It's like if we decided to ditch driving tests, road signs and the highway code and then, instead of realising our mistake, shout about how "this is the fault of those Fast and the Furious movies!" after the inevitable wave of car crashes and dangerous driving occurs.
That's not to mention that this 'solution' is utterly idiotic. It doesn't block sites where people may actually stumble onto porn (Twitter, Reddit, etc) and the demographic it's supposedly 'saving' is also the demographic much more likely to have the required know-how to get around it. For those outside of that demographic it increases the chance that their porn habits will be exposed for all to see, an event that would ruin the lives of many completely innocent people (which itself would end up in suicides and murders).
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C'mon! There has never been a time in the history of anything where this has ended up being a problem. And if there has....well it wont happen again. And if it does, it wont be that bad. And if it is, then it wont be their fault. And if it is.... nothing will come of it. And if it does, fuck the poor more and charge them a fiver and their private data to watch it.
oh wait yeah I see.
I mean, it is, the ease of access to extreme porn IS making issues for young people, young women are usually on the receiving end of these extreme demands, and there is an issue of impotence in young men who have consumed too much of this material.
The problem is firmly at the parents door (IMO), it's the whole "this is why we can't have nice things" ethos, parents didn't manage to kerb their childrens access to this kind of material, so the government feel they have to step in, like they have done in numerous other cases.
Completely agree, but that is step stepping the issue that there is a problem with the ease that young people are able to access extreme porn.
The only time I've accidentally run into porn is on social media sites. No kid or teen is accidentally finding mainstream porn sites online.
If anything, this will just push people to visit shadier sites to avoid being carded that have malware and thus put them at more risk.
If anything, this will just push people to visit shadier sites to avoid being carded that have malware and thus put them at more risk.
Yes, and if all kids had to go on was Fast and the Furious and Grand Theft Auto we'd see anarchy on the roads, that's just how things tend to work.
However, we'd also see anarchy on the roads if kids had literally nothing to go on before they first drove a car.
That is because education is the only thing that can help when it comes to unhealthy and harmful views towards any topic.
In a perfect world the parents would be the ones teaching their kids about healthy sex, consent, LGBT+ relationships, etc. However we are not in a perfect world and, as such, it is on the government to teach children and teens about those things instead, and they've utterly failed in that duty.
Your continued usage of 'extreme porn' is kind of telling, really. It honestly sounds like you care more about some moralistic 'ban this sick filth' agenda instead of actually fixing the issues that you mentioned above. It's the same kind of viewpoint that thinks banning violent video-games will solve the issues of gun violence in America.
The Tories do like their BBCs.
Big Budget Cuts
You're being a tad dramatic, just one question, are you a parent?
'Age verification won't block porn. But it will spell the end of ethical porn'
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/apr/18/age-verification-block-porn-ethical-sites-sex
so a few things.
as we aware of now one of the age verification schemes AgeID is run by Mindgeek, who also happen to be the company that owns and runs all the major porn sites like Pornhub, redtube, etc. we've seen that Mindgeek have been actively involved with the government engaging in this project for a long time now http://www.matt-blake.co.uk/the-pol...o-bed-with-earths-most-powerful-pornographer/
it might seem contrary that the biggest porn company in the world wants to actively work to put up gates around porn, but there's a lot of power in becomes the gatekeeper for *everyone's* porn not just your own companies.
now i did a few searches today to find out how much it would cost for sites to implement mindgeeks AgeID service (if they dont have some kind of verification they could risk being blocked by UK ISPs), and apart from saying their charges are scalable with size Mindgeek does not discuss actual rates. i found one suggestion from some articles in 2017 (all that seemed to be copying each others info so it's not clear where it originated), that the rates might be something like £0.05/check. so imagine if you are an independent camgirl with your own website and you get 1000 uk visitors at day. that's a £50 shakedown from Mindgeek, just to continue to exist.
Mindgeek is literally positioning themselves as gatekeepers because they know they can price everyone else out, then eat up the competition. This is going to tear independent producers apart. I bet Mindgeek are hugely pleased this happened. You can be sure that they'll be lobbying for this in other countries if the launch goes well here.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/apr/18/age-verification-block-porn-ethical-sites-sex
so a few things.
as we aware of now one of the age verification schemes AgeID is run by Mindgeek, who also happen to be the company that owns and runs all the major porn sites like Pornhub, redtube, etc. we've seen that Mindgeek have been actively involved with the government engaging in this project for a long time now http://www.matt-blake.co.uk/the-pol...o-bed-with-earths-most-powerful-pornographer/
it might seem contrary that the biggest porn company in the world wants to actively work to put up gates around porn, but there's a lot of power in becomes the gatekeeper for *everyone's* porn not just your own companies.
now i did a few searches today to find out how much it would cost for sites to implement mindgeeks AgeID service (if they dont have some kind of verification they could risk being blocked by UK ISPs), and apart from saying their charges are scalable with size Mindgeek does not discuss actual rates. i found one suggestion from some articles in 2017 (all that seemed to be copying each others info so it's not clear where it originated), that the rates might be something like £0.05/check. so imagine if you are an independent camgirl with your own website and you get 1000 uk visitors at day. that's a £50 shakedown from Mindgeek, just to continue to exist.
Mindgeek is literally positioning themselves as gatekeepers because they know they can price everyone else out, then eat up the competition. This is going to tear independent producers apart. I bet Mindgeek are hugely pleased this happened. You can be sure that they'll be lobbying for this in other countries if the launch goes well here.
No, and I doubt I ever will be. Not that such a thing has anything to do with this.
Also why ignore everything else I said?
I didn't ignore it, I just choose not to answer it as you were being sensationalist, as for being a parent, It does have something to do with it, it changes your outlook on things like this.
"Sensationalist" how?
"Changes your outlook on things" how, and in what way?
You're literally using the same rhetoric I've seen used constantly to justify backwards moves such as this, and you've yet to give a single good explanation as for why this is a good thing. Intentionally ignoring my other points just makes it look like you don't have a good (or any) argument against them.
Makes daddy stepdaughter porn a bit weirder, but not enough to stop watching.
Holy shit they're actually treating it like Netflix. £8.99 for a multi-device "subscription" 😂
I can't even. What year is this?
"Hey Dad, remember and pick up the multi-device porn pass! Thanks".
This is genuinely shades of China. I'd ask what the hell you Brits are doing over there, but given the past few years, it's pretty evident that you don't know either.
"Us Brits" are mostly either against or ignorant to this; the block itself is entirely the fault of a government aching for more control, a political climate ripe for a move such as this, and a small (yet powerful due to FPTP) slice of the population who genuinely falls for the 'think about the children!' bollocks. Those who are behind it know exactly what they're doing, this ain't like Brexit at all.
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America would probably be doing similar shit, but you have your 1st amendment to protect you from a Conservative government's moral panics.
