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8chan owner Jim Watkins has been subpoenaed to testify before the U.S. House Committee on Homeland Security on September 5th:



The Verge reports that Watkins has kept 8chan offline voluntarily:


The House Homeland Security Committee subpoenaed the owner of 8chan, Jim Watkins, on Wednesday in an attempt to force the Philippines-based entrepreneur to testify before lawmakers next month. The subpoena follows a series of white supremacist-inspired attacks across the world this year, many of which were linked to 8chan.

"We have questions on what is being done to counter this trend so we can be sure it is being properly addressed," Reps. Bennie G. Thompson (D-MS) and Mike Rogers (R-AL) said in a statement. "Receiving testimony from Mr. Watkins is critical to our oversight on this matter."

The subpoena requests that Watkins testify before the committee on September 5th at 9:30AM. Watkins has not publicly responded as of publication. However, he did post a video to YouTube on Sunday saying that his team has kept 8chan offline until they speak with lawmakers. It's unclear whether the lawmakers have requested that it remain inaccessible until that time.

"The website has been offline voluntarily for the last week," Watkins said. "It's really, really sad. Please don't blame me."
 

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BDS

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Go after Google/Youtube, Twitter, and Reddit. 8chan is the end of the pipeline, not the source.
 

AYF 001

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Hmmm, will the GOP either:

A. Praise him for be a beacon of "free speech"
or
B. Condemn him for using vile video games to force those blameless nazis into commiting acts of violence?
 

julian

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If he's not in the US, what power do they have to bring him in? Or would he basically get in trouble if he came to visit America.
 

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Go after Google/Youtube, Twitter, and Reddit. 8chan is the end of the pipeline, not the source.

I'm not sure I follow this line of thinking? 8Chan allows this extremism to fester unchecked. Despite YT and Reddit having occasional havens, they have at least attempted to curve many communities that are simply hate communities.
 

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I'm not sure I follow this line of thinking? 8Chan allows this extremism to fester unchecked. Despite YT and Reddit having occasional havens, they have at least attempted to curve many communities that are simply hate communities.
Reddit, Facebook, etc allow the casual hatred to stay causing people to be suspectblible to the barbs of hate overtime as the existence of those barbs legitimizes those viewpoints. Those who fall to them go deeper and deeper. 8chan didn't create these people, it was just their destination after hateful indoctrination.
 

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If he's not in the US, what power do they have to bring him in? Or would he basically get in trouble if he came to visit America.

They vote on a contempt citation, send it to the executive branch, and if the justice department decides to prosecute, they can extradite if there is a treaty in place and bring the dude in.
 

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Reddit, Facebook, etc allow the casual hatred to stay causing people to be suspectblible to the barbs of hate overtime as the existence of those barbs legitimizes those viewpoints. Those who fall to them go deeper and deeper. 8chan didn't create these people, it was just their destination after hateful indoctrination.

Those platforms didn't create these people either. I agree there needs to be more moderation, but as Reddit has shown time and time again, removing these communities curbs their hate. Facebook & Reddit are gateways, they are not the source.
 
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Okay but those platforms didn't create these people either. I agree there needs to be more moderation, but as Reddit has shown time and time again, removing these communities curbs their hate.
These people always existed but they used to be all alone , now they can go on the internet and find other like them and reinforce each other shitty views
 

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Jim 'nutjob' Watkins you say ? Why does congress want fucking lonies on c-span and spouting his chanseque bullshit ?
 

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Okay but those platforms didn't create these people either. I agree there needs to be more moderation, but as Reddit has shown time and time again, removing these communities curbs their hate.
They did, though. The Internet is a great way to get the hate across in a casual manner. There aren't many places off the internet where people get to gether and make bigoted jokes on the regualar 24/7. Without the Interner we wouldn't have the rise of incels because the internet acts as a way for these apart people to come together and act. A person is less likely to be hateful if they aren't associating with other hateful people. That's why deplatforming is a powerful action.
 
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I expect fuckery from shitty Bond villain Rep. Dan Crenshaw if Watkins actually agrees to come to the hearing since he is on the committee.
 

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They did, though. The Internet is a great way to get the hate across in a casual manner. There aren't many places off the internet where people get to gether and make bigoted jokes on the regualar 24/7. Without the Interner we wouldn't have the rise of incels because the internet acts as a way for these apart people to come together and act. A person is less likely to be hateful if they aren't associating with other hateful people. That's why deplatforming is a powerful action.

What happens when you are deplatformed from the mainstream sites?

8chan.

I rest my case.
 

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Could we see house members grill him on the scum that is Gamergate, since Gamergate is essentially the reason why 8chan was formed? Or would that be considered irrelevant questioning? Also, get ready for old, out of touch congressmen struggle to understand the internet and video games. It's going to be cringeworthy probably.
 

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Could we see house members grill him on the scum that is Gamergate, since Gamergate is essentially the reason why 8chan was formed? Or would that be considered irrelevant questioning? Also, get ready for old, out of touch congressmen struggle to understand the internet and video games. It's going to be cringeworthy probably.

I hate that I forgot about this. This is going to be the 90s all over again with the hate against video games.
 
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I'm wondering if there's a way to determine if this testimony will be public, thus would air on C-SPAN or if this testimony will be "closed door" testimony.
 

Shedinja

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Could we see house members grill him on the scum that is Gamergate, since Gamergate is essentially the reason why 8chan was formed? Or would that be considered irrelevant questioning? Also, get ready for old, out of touch congressmen struggle to understand the internet and video games. It's going to be cringeworthy probably.
Remember when Google's CEO testified before the House Judiciary Committee? "Why is it that when I Google my name I get terrible, negative news stories?" Because you're a piece of shit, Congressman Steve King.
 

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What happens when you are deplatformed from the mainstream sites?

8chan.

I rest my case.

Part of the problem with 8chan isn't that 4chan was deplatforming people, it was that the only line in the sand they cared to draw was "shut up about gamergate". Shit like /pol/ has been still perfectly acceptable.
 

L Thammy

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Part of the problem with 8chan isn't that 4chan was deplatforming people, it was that the only line in the sand they cared to draw was "shut up about gamergate". Shit like /pol/ has been still perfectly acceptable.
Hey, 4chan did have one more line in the sand that 8chan wanted liberation from. It just wasn't the Nazi one.
 

PaJeppy

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He deserves the same charges that the shooter gets.

No he doesn't. It would have happened without 8chan. Maybe not in the same timeline but there's enough shit on the internet to influence these types of people. Not saying the guy is completely innocent.

If anyone deserves the same charges it's all politicians not doing anything meaningful at this point.
 

ChristianH94

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Alright so! Because our politicians have no idea what goes on online, call or write to your local politician literally right now and request them to ask some real deep and hard questions for Jim Watkins. If people don't raise their voices, it's entirely possible this will end up 110% like when they tried to go after facebook or google and it ended up like a pie in the face for the government.
 

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Don't they post child pornography on that site? As the owner, isn't legally responsible for the content his scumbags post by allowing it?
 
So same with mark Zuckerberg (Facebook), Steve Huffman and Alexis Ohanian (Reddit)?

You honestly think 8chan is comparable to Facebook and Reddit? I think 8chan is like one step away from the dark web whereas Facebook and Reddit at least have people who are trying to use the platforms in the correct way. 8chan just seemed to be filled with the worst of society.
 

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Is this guy who was in the news recently about wanting it shut down. Also will we be able to watch this or will it end up being behind closed doors?
 

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75 year old congressman "what does Chan mean? Are you related to Jackie Chan?"
 

Josh5890

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Part of me thinks all this guy will do is plead the 5th.