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BlackGoku03

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The reviews complaining of Tonal Whiplash is expected. Ragnorak was full of it. In fact, the stuff on Asgard and the stuff on the planet with Hulk and Jeff feel like two different movies.

Will watch on D+ in ~mid August?
 
darksider321

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Yams said:
I even said they weren't as popular. All I am saying is the audience, especially people that were kids and teens (my generation) in the early 90's, had a familiarity with the main 4 avengers. They were b-listers yes but they weren't some unknown
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You were the one that stated the marvel action hour was a big thing for years. I feel like you are trying to send a message that the early marvel movies was successful because people knew the characters rather than the movies themselves.
 
ZeoVGM

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Yams said:
I even said they weren't as popular. All I am saying is the audience, especially people that were kids and teens (my generation) in the early 90's, had a familiarity with the main 4 avengers. They were b-listers yes but they weren't some unknown
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They weren't even B-listers. That's the point.

Blade was probably more well known by general audiences than Iron Man and Thor prior to their films releasing.
 
BrucCLea13k87

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I think that the
Yams said:
Oh there's going to be some discourse
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Is it like the comics?

Also, a 70 is fine by me. I've been pretty burned out by Marvel as of late but I love Taika. Some of these movies are rated too high IMO, a 70 lowers my expectations so that I can enjoy the movie more. Perfection is expected of Marvel all of the time and it isn't sustainable.
 
Timu

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Gabaghoul582 said:
A 70 with less than a hundred reviews is way too soon to call. Plenty of movies drop like 10-20 points once everything comes in.
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Yes, I agree. That's why it getting to 70 right now can be a concern because it can drop even more if possible. That's why we have to wait for 200+ reviews before things settle but anything can change during that and 9 times out of 10 movies go lower when more reviews drop.

Man if this reaches 60s...
 
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Even though I agree having Gorr as a villain would probably work better with a more serious tone, we can't forget the last Thor movie was called Ragnarok, had a pretty hectic situation going on and worked quite well.
 

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I ended up liking Strange 2 more than expected - and more than most people, I think - so I'm probably going to give this one a shot.

I do agree that Thor has become wildly inconsistent in his characterization and that it's a pretty big problem.
 
Gavalanche

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It is weird how Thor has lost everything essentially and he is cracking jokes constantly. I am not into misery porn but shouldn't he be a wreck of a man? They kind of hinted at that a little in End Game but still. It took Bucky years to get over his trauma.
 
J_Viper

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Something seemed off when they waited a month before launch to show footage

I am sure the film will be well received by the GA and make a ton of cash, but the impressions confirmed my worry of having an unchained Taika at the helm
 
Pai Pai Master

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Godzilla's Left Toe said:
People just want them to announce Secret Wars like they did for Infinity War and Endgame in Phase 1 . . .
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Those two movies took years of buildup. Secret Wars is not just an Avengers event. Its centered around The Illuminati and Doctor Doom. We literally only just met an AU version of The Illuminati and the 616 versions of Reed and Doom are still years away. Secret Wars won't be announced any time soon.

They will probably announce the next tentpole movies (Young Avengers and Thunderbolts) later this year so whats the rush? They are moving full steam ahead towards big crossover events as always, the difference is they're not revealing their cards all at once.
 
BrucCLea13k87

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I really think phase 4 was impacted by COVID because of Marvel's production cycle. I think some of the movies would've been better if they didn't need to be rushed out so quickly to meet Feige's schedule.

I really enjoyed The Batman and that took FOREEEVEER to come out. I hope Feige gets more experienced directors and just lets them make a film. But that's probably not going to happen.
 
darksider321

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ZeoVGM said:
They weren't even B-listers. That's the point.

Blade was probably more well known by general audiences than Iron Man and Thor prior to their films releasing.
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I prob also want to add men in black (techinallly marvel did not make them when it was first created but they did buy the studio that own them) as also more well known to general audience as well.
 
Ryan.

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Some of y'all need to put some respect on Shang-Chi's name, especially if we talking about reviews


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jett

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This talk about the relevance of phase 1 characters reminded me of this scene in Adventures in Babysitting lol



Thor must've had some kind of pop culture relevance at the time.
 
HeySeuss

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J_Viper said:
Something seemed off when they waited a month before launch to show footage

I am sure the film will be well received by the GA and make a ton of cash, but the impressions confirmed my worry of having an unchained Taika at the helm
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That was more due to the compressed scheduling of MoM and this than anything else I would guess. They didn't want people to ignore MoM and focus on Thor and give MoM time to breathe.
 
RedVejigante

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Man, I lived and breathed Marvel since the 80's and by the time the nineties hit even I didnt give two shits for Iron Man because he wasnt A) Spidey or B) a mutant.

Making Tony the cornerstone of a prospective cinematic universe was absolutely banking on the success of a character general audiences didnt have a clue about.
 
Captain_Vyse

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BrucCLea13k87 said:
I really think phase 4 was impacted by COVID because of Marvel's production cycle. I think some of the movies would've been better if they didn't need to be rushed out so quickly to meet Feige's schedule.

I really enjoyed The Batman and that took FOREEEVEER to come out. I hope Feige gets more experienced directors and just lets them make a film. But that's probably not going to happen.
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Isn't that what they did with Eternals? I thought they gave Chloe Zhao a lot of space to make the movie she wanted.
 
zero_fm

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Ryan. said:
Some of y'all need to put some respect on Shang-Chi's name, especially if we talking about reviews


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Shang-chi is a really good movie. I would go as far as to say it was one of the better solo MCU movies ( not counting GOTG and behind the Spider movies and the last two Captain America ones)
 
Yams

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BrucCLea13k87 said:
I think that the

Is it like the comics?

Also, a 70 is fine by me. I've been pretty burned out by Marvel as of late but I love Taika. Some of these movies are rated too high IMO, a 70 lowers my expectations so that I can enjoy the movie more. Perfection is expected of Marvel all of the time and it isn't sustainable.
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Don't read this unless you read the comics

Thor RUMOR

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basically the same story Jane has cancer. Every time she turns into Thor it makes the cancer worse but keeps her alive. She dies making a grand sacrifice. But instead of being resurrected she straight up dies and Thor moves on. I think the discourse around bringing her back just to kill her might not sit well with some people
 
Gavalanche

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I think part of the problem for me is that there are a shit load of characters, and we have no idea who the focus is on, not really. Phase 1 and 2 were easy; once enough movies were out, we knew who was an Avenger and it was nice and condensed. the problem is though is that there are potentially 20 main characters, and so the focus feels everywhere. So once a new Avengers starts up, who is going to be there? Will Captain America? Will Bucky? Hawkeye? Dr Strange? Ms marvel? moon knight? Shang Chi? etc etc. The list goes on and on. And then we have Thunderbolts and Young Avengers and that is not even without having X-men and Fantastic Four.

It has lost a lot of its focus now, and now threads are everywhere. Thats kind of my issue with it. I know a lot of people don't share my view, and that is fine :P
 
Antoo

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feige is letting directors do more of what they want with phase 4. he said he was less involved in production of multiverse of madness and im pretty sure he was never in australia while thor 4 filmed. taika actually has a screenwriting credit on love and thunder as opposed to ragnarok as well. he is way more hands off on most projects now for better or for worse. by all accounts taika was not restrained in anyway and got that creative freedom to do what he wanted similar to what gunn got after guardians 1 succeeded.

if you want the mcu to try to be more creatively risky with stuff like eternals or multiverse of madness you have to come to grips with the fact that giving creators more free reign does not mean a film that makes everyone happy.
 
Instro

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I wasn't fond of Ragnarok, and think the first Thor was the best of them movies so far. So a double down on the style of Ragnarok always sounded worse to me.

That said, personally I'm generally impressed by any blockbuster produced during COVID that didn't turn into a total disaster. Given the kind of timetables Disney/Marvel run in these films, it probably could have been a lot uglier than what they've turned out over the last few years.

I liked Strange 2 a lot though, not sure why people were so down on that one.
 
lunarworks

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You're VASTLY overplaying the reach of those cartoons and games, specially given the time they came out.

They were the equivalent of releasing a Mr Ed film, sure some people saw the show as kids or know him via cultural osmosis. No he is not at all popular.

Hell, this is a comic from post 2008!!
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This was exactly how it went down when Marvel announced they were developing their own cinematic universe. Their roster of characters, at the time, were literally leftovers that no one had bothered to secure the film rights to. Aside from hardcore comic fans, no one took it seriously. But in the end they pulled off a miracle through flawless casting.
 
Astral

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Damn I really thought this would be a killer. I'm still gonna watch it because my girl's excited for Natalie Portman as Mighty Thor but damn am I disappointed.
 
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