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Eh? This is just a rebranding of THQ Barcelona?:
They are working on the Gothic Remake since 2019, so i guess it's them. They just changed their name.
They are working on the Gothic Remake since 2019, so i guess it's them. They just changed their name.
I doubt it. Let's just say the playable teaser wasn't very promising for a Gothic fan.
Yes. This is about the 8chan thing, and mocking the self righteous on this site justifying buying their games (and other games by similarly deplorable developers) by saying they need to support the devs. Rather than just admitting that they don't care.
I'd imagine so. 8chan hosted that kind of content so the reps from THQ who did an AMA there either partake or are fine with it. I mean, it wasn't exactly a secret that 8chan was like that.
There is a playable teaser out there. It controls completely different, not that that's entirely positive in this case.
Comparing screenshots on the Steam page of the Gothic Playable Teaser and their website, they seem to have changed some post-processing effects on the images on their website, but not much else. Things look less blurry now. I guess we'll have to wait "a couple months" before we get to see if/what things have changed.
Image suit on Imgur: https://imgur.com/a/1l2BIQJ
Image suit on Imgur: https://imgur.com/a/1l2BIQJ
THQ Nordic has published 30+ games since 2014 including SpongeBob, TitanQuest, This is the Police, Destroy All Humans, multiple Darksider games, Red faction remake, and more. So I guess making games is how they are making money.
They are owned by the Embracer group but they are still publishing a lot of games.
I thought this was already confirmed one year ago, two months after they released the original "teaser demo" for the remake.
Honestly the "production" side of it was the very least of my issues since that is all stuff that can be worked on. Main thing was how very un-Gothic it was. Like it may work as a modern RPG under some other name but it had almost nothing that felt like Gothic 1 and 2.
A proof of concept is not the same thing. The Teaser was exactly that
I'm vaguely hopeful exclusively because after its release they CLAIMED to have acknowledged a lot of the criticism and to be ready to act accordingly.
We'll see, I guess.
It's not like everything about it was irredeemable after all. The overall production value wasn't too shabby.
it's more on the mechanical side that they did a lot of poor choices.
Yes. They also have a dude working there that is in contact with the german gothic community and is a big gothic fan himself. He acknowledged what was wrong in the Teaser and said they are changing A LOT of stuff.
He went as far as stating that they were looking on getting the Voice Audios, and if they need to voice new stuff, they will hire the original actors sinc emost of them are active.
You can read it here in german:
Gothic-Remake: Die Originalsprecher könnten zurückkehren
Wie uns Producer Reinhard Pollice im GameStar-Podcast verriet, soll sich an der deutschen Original-Vertonung von Gothic möglichst nichts ändern.
www.gamestar.de
Also this post from last year was really reassuring:
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I hope they've played the original Gothic and know why fans love it and it's still one of the best open world ARPGs to this date... as not even recent Piranha Bytes haven't fully figured out, to this day, why people loved it.
Frankly I'm not particularly concerned about fluff like "getting the original voice actors".
And the visual were more than fine enough.
My issues with the "teaser demo" were more specifically about how many aspects of the game on a mechanical level became virtually antithetic to what made Gothic a great series to begin with.
Over-exposition, overly chatty NPCs, a protagonist that would never quit spouting annoying quips or describing what was going on to the most minute detail, an invasive UI leading the player by the nose with markers and minimaps, "architectonic barriers" made by crap like "three crates in a row", chest-high barriers you couldn't climb over, fences that didn't let you pass below them even when crouching (even if it looked like you were supposed to be able to), the fact that you couldn't actually fall off a bridge/cliff but you'd find yourself running against an invisible wall, the concept of getting a weapon and fighting dangerous enemies from the get go instead of making clear from the beginning that you are NOT special and in fact weak as a kitten at first, etc, etc.
Even with its limited and now extremely dated tech one thing the Gothic games sold you on from the first moments was the illusion to be a in a physically consistent 3D space and a consistent micro-ecosystem, where what you'd see would be what you'd get.
The demo threw that idea out of the window from the very first steps its fictional world. Everything in its environment felt like a cardboard set ready to break any illusion every time it was put to test.
And the visual were more than fine enough.
My issues with the "teaser demo" were more specifically about how many aspects of the game on a mechanical level became virtually antithetic to what made Gothic a great series to begin with.
Over-exposition, overly chatty NPCs, a protagonist that would never quit spouting annoying quips or describing what was going on to the most minute detail, an invasive UI leading the player by the nose with markers and minimaps, "architectonic barriers" made by crap like "three crates in a row", chest-high barriers you couldn't climb over, fences that didn't let you pass below them even when crouching (even if it looked like you were supposed to be able to), the fact that you couldn't actually fall off a bridge/cliff but you'd find yourself running against an invisible wall, the concept of getting a weapon and fighting dangerous enemies from the get go instead of making clear from the beginning that you are NOT special and in fact weak as a kitten at first, etc, etc.
Even with its limited and now extremely dated tech one thing the Gothic games sold you on from the first moments was the illusion to be a in a physically consistent 3D space and a consistent micro-ecosystem, where what you'd see would be what you'd get.
The demo threw that idea out of the window from the very first steps its fictional world. Everything in its environment felt like a cardboard set ready to break any illusion every time it was put to test.
They make low budget games
They have decent expectations
Their games perform really well
I think if you don't play the game with the german voices it's not really important. For the german gamers it's actually one of the most important aspects. The voice actors used an distinct german slang called "Ruhrpott dialekt", which is what made the game really special and believable to many.
Most of the stuff you posted is acknowledged and just couldn't be done in a teaser. Reinhard even said, that they didnt have the time to do some stuff in the PT, but will be there in the proper game.
This right here. It is encouraging to hear that they have acknowledged things that were wrong and expressed the intent to change things but I'd rather go in with low expectations from what I have seen. Less likely to be disappointed and more of a chance to be pleasantly surprised.