Three more countries lost ability to purchase Helldivers 2 on Steam (Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia)
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Sony saw Microsoft slamming their dicks in the car door and said "Move over, I want some of that".
Can you just stop? Take the loss on this one. Maybe set up PSN in the countries that don't have it.
Can you just stop? Take the loss on this one. Maybe set up PSN in the countries that don't have it.
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They also applied same restrictions for GoT
View: https://twitter.com/SteamDB/status/1788981898108182681
View: https://twitter.com/SteamDB/status/1788981898108182681
The PSN/Steam account linking requirement was dropped, but the regional restrictions were never lifted.
Review bombing should honestly resume. I thought restoring all the countries was a forgone conclusion, but this is seriously worrying.
I wondered in the previous thread whether or not Helldivers was going to be delisted now that the reason for the delisting was no longer there. Guess we have our answer.
Let's see if the gaming community is able to get its foot on the gas again or not.
Let's see if the gaming community is able to get its foot on the gas again or not.
I think this is the best case scenario we can get out of this. Sony shouldn't be allowed to see revenue from those countries until they get their act together and enable PSN registration there. Hopefully it pushes them to do so.
I mean their reply made it seem like they planned on figuring something out for the PSN thing on Helldivers not that they would keep selling it in countries they don't have PSN in....
It still sucks but it seems silly to keep selling it in countries where it will cause problems in the future no?
It still sucks but it seems silly to keep selling it in countries where it will cause problems in the future no?
No doubt there's a lot of legalese to unfurl, but are the users in the banned countries at least getting their money back?
I'm guessing not.
I'm guessing not.
There's no PSN requirement for Helldivers 2 anymore, existing buyers in these countries/territories can still play the game so there isn't any reason to give them a refund.
Or gee I don't know, call me crazy for this wild preposterous idea but...
...how bout not mandating PSN registration for those that don't want it??
Sure but it's pretty clear that's not gonna happen at this point
Probably just ignore their ToS as they do on their console, the issue here is that those restrictions put the stores selling the games in jeopardy as they will be the ones taking the hit when people from those regions that are not making accounts from other countries start refunding the games. I hope that Sony is working on a solution for this mess that they created.
Depends on if they're going to be stubbornly try to link PC to console PSN or if they're going to let PC do their own PSN thing i guess.
If they're really serious about PC i could see them trying to build something as a base that could be used in the future to migrate console PSN.
I have no idea why Steam obeys to Sony's rules while Steam has less restrictions in general and people can overcome the blockade on consoles. Unless they force to link the local steam account for said country to be linked with its respective PSN account from same country, so it means you can't link your Steam account if you live in Canada with a French PSN account.
The vocal part of the gaming community only cared about not having to make PSN accounts. They don't really care about countries other than their own not being able to access the game. It was only an excuse to make Sony relent on the former criteria.
They basically already "took the loss". PSN is no longer required for Helldivers 2.
Im willing to bet with this situation that PSN requirement will still happen... just later. Basically when they figure no one is looking.
As for Ghosts... its a largely SP game. you could easily cut out the MP and still sell that game in those restricted places without any issue. They just don't want to.
But that's my guess now... that PSN requirement will come back just... later when they figure they can get away with it again.
As for Ghosts... its a largely SP game. you could easily cut out the MP and still sell that game in those restricted places without any issue. They just don't want to.
But that's my guess now... that PSN requirement will come back just... later when they figure they can get away with it again.
It makes sense for everyone to dump out bad news at the same time. You also see it with layoff announcements both in gaming and other industries. I guess it reduces how long your bad news stays in the news cycle.
I mean they don't have to "get away with it" it's just going to be required period. Anyone with a problem can just choose not to buy it or refund the game on Day 1.
Getting away with it in this context is them telling you "Its not going forward" only to decide later that "We're doing it now"
its disingenuous to say they didn't announce it in a way to convince the audience that "Yeah, we're never gonna do it". Especially if the purchase restriction never gets lifted. Which I kinda assume it won't (unless folks start review bombing it again)
The bigger issue now is that folks in specific reigons cannot buy it, and were able to before. Nor can they buy a game that is mostly a single player game for the exact same reason. Allegedly GOW Ragnarok is about to get its PC announcement, and I'd argue its a safe bet that it will fall under the same purchase restrictions for no reason since it has no MP, not even a separate mode like Ghosts has.. but none whatsoever
When it first happened, maybe. Steam has stepped in before to save face on stuff. But now? I highly doubt it. Especially given that other games have been listed in the purchase restrictions.
You're probably correct. They're just kicking the can down the road.
People really should have waited before changing their review back to a positive one.
Got to rush all that bullshit out there before they try and make people forget with showcases.
I'm confused. If they're not going ahead with the PSN requirement, what reason could they have to keep the game unavailable in all those countries? I could understand if they needed a little time to re-enable sales in those places for some reason, but if they're actively adding more countries to the banlist, then I'm at a loss.
so they changed up the PSN requirement but still have countries locked out based on that PSN availability? that's making no sense. if they aren't reenabling purchases, they've effectively done nothing but appease cases where it was more of an annoyance than an actual ability to play the game.
Doubt it. I already had my doubts about valve interferring the first time, but these consecutive changes made me sure that its Sony.
Valve only interferes rarely and its not frequent. Whatever is happening, Sony's doing it.
While true in general, the timing of the Sony stuff is something that kinda popped up organically.
I've defnitely noticed Microsoft likes to get the bad news out of the way a couple of weeks before announcement time. I think EA/Ubi often tried to bury bad news during E3.
I guess I can't say why these metrics are just so important, but I do know that literally losing money on purpose is pretty stupid from a business point of view.
PSN not available in all these countries/territories is wild. Puerto Rico, really? Why the fuck?
Correct, but there would be a reason on why sony is not willing to enable PSN in those countries, like maybe due to some legal stuff or need to setup customer support to support those countries and things like that?
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They are literally only gaming company with account system that doesn't support those countries. For the love of God Nintendo supports them.
I'm sure it isn't easy to resolve overnight, but I would think that if it's such a significant hurdle that maybe you can just not bother and allow people to play without PSN accounts. If the goal was to make more money and hit higher player bases, then you can do that even if you don't get a cute bullet point I say. I find it perfectly fine if they want to require a PSN account since so many companies do so, but if you actually don't have the infrastructure to make it work everywhere you would launch your game, it would seem logical to not implement that requirement until you get that resolved first.
In the end money is king, not engagement or statistics, just seems really stupid all around. I get the feeling Sony did not expect Helldivers II to be the hit it has been, and regrets not having this ready for their metrics and are suffering severe sour grapes. They just can't handle that they didn't get every little element out of it, which is a bit pathetic, just take the compliment and fix it for the next game.
they blocked countries that are in both nato and the eurozone. it makes no sense lol
Doesn't delisting usually mean you can no longer play even if you already bought it? I have a friend in the region currently playing so not sure
