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Xando

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Oct 28, 2017
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Apple responded to Epic Games' lawsuit accusing it of anticompetitive behavior in how it controls the App Store, telling the court that the Fortnite maker violated Apple's rules and shouldn't be placed back into the store temporarily while the legal battle rages.

In its filing, Apple alleges that Epic Games asked for an individual arrangement with Apple, producing three emails from Epic CEO Tim Sweeney that bolster its claim.

This is Apple's first significant legal response to Epic Games after the dispute between the two companies spilled into the courts. It comes the week after Epic Games released a direct payment mechanism inside Fortnite designed to bypass the App Store's payment system, from which Apple takes a 30% cut. Apple subsequently removed Fortnite from its store for violating its policies. People who already have Fortnite installed on their iPhones can continue to play, but cannot update or download the app for the first time.

Epic sued it Apple in an attempt to force it to change its business practices and launched a "free Fortnite" marketing campaign portraying Apple as the villain.

Sweeney said earlier this month that Epic is not seeking a "special deal" with Apple that other iOS app makers don't get.

But in Friday's filing, Apple disputed that point.

"On June 30, 2020, Epic's CEO Tim Sweeney wrote my colleagues and me an email asking for a 'side letter' from Apple that would create a special deal for only Epic that would fundamentally change the way in which Epic offers apps on Apple's iOS platform," former Apple Senior Vice President Phil Schiller wrote in a declaration. Schiller, whose title is now Fellow, runs Apple's App Store.

Apple said Sweeney was asking permission for Epic to bypass in-app purchases and allow Fortnite players to pay it directly. Schiller said that Sweeney emailed him the morning that Forntite changed its payment mechanism saying that it "will not longer adhere to Apple's payment processing restrictions."


Epic has asked for a temporary restraining order that would place Fortnite back on the App Store. A hearing on that order is scheduled for Monday in the Northern District of California.

"In the wake of its own voluntary actions, Epic now seeks emergency relief. But the 'emergency' is entirely of Epic's own making," Apple's lawyers said in the filing.

Apple says that if Epic were to remove the payment mechanism it introduced, it would allow Fortnite to return to the App Store, and would not disable Epic's developer account. If Epic were to lose its Apple developer accounts, it would not only be unable to publish Fortnite for iPhones, but it would also hamper the development of the Unreal Engine, software that helps programmers make games, and is used in hundreds of apps from many other companies.

www.cnbc.com

Apple fires back in court, says Epic Games CEO asked for special treatment

In its filing, Apple alleges that Epic Games asked for an individual arrangement with Apple, producing three emails from Epic CEO Tim Sweeney.
 

eonden

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Oct 25, 2017
17,092
Technically he said he wouldnt want a side deal during litigation, not that he didnt ask for it before!

(He is obviously going to try and get an agreement to avoid a lengthy trial).
 

DrDeckard

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Oct 25, 2017
8,109
UK
Tim Sweeney is a blatant lier and has been for years. What a genuinely legit slimy individual. No respect for the guy.
 

Plasma

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Oct 25, 2017
6,643
Sounds about right from Sweeney and now he's thrown a tantrum because he hasn't got what he wanted.
 

Sabin

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Oct 25, 2017
4,633
It's all about fair treatment for everyone guys and not for special treatment of Epic.

/s
 

eonden

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Oct 25, 2017
17,092
Wait it was Tim Sweeney himself the one that send the email and not Epic's legal department?
Why?

I'm not sure he will lose it (I would give 30% to Epic?). But regardless of the outcome he wouldnt really win (as in 3 years who knows where Epic is, but there will bigger megacorps to take advantage of Epic winning the lawsuit and opening sideloading in iOS when compared to Epic).
 

Khanimus

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Oct 25, 2017
40,244
Greater Vancouver
What sucks is Epic is absolutely the profile of developer to have power to push against Apple's policies that, yeah, should change. Small developers can't afford that fight.

But then all of that falls apart once you have to realize "oh, Epic sucks tho..." And everything about how they went about picking this fight feels gross and shitty and is falsely framed against some kind of altruism for the industry at large.
 

Biosnake

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Oct 25, 2017
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Samiya

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Nov 30, 2019
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uuhh that's normal. All the big companies do this and some even manage to be successful by holding enough leverage.
 

ramoisdead

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Oct 25, 2017
19,617
OMG Tim Epic lied??? And the folks on ResetEra who sided with him were duped?

Must be a day ending with "Y".
 
Jan 27, 2020
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Washington, DC
I don't know how much this helps apple with popular perception at least. It just highlights the fact that some companies do get special deals, despite their frequent protestations that everyone plays by the same rules. That's just a flat out lie.
 

EllipsisBreak

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Aug 6, 2019
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Epic must have known how this particular detail would play out, right? Yet they still said they weren't after a special arrangement at all? What a spectacularly bad move.
 

zoltek

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Oct 25, 2017
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What does Sweeney asking for a different deal have to do with the validity of Epic's lawsuit?