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vkbest

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I said before, they want this for next gen, so they could make current graphics on next gen xD
 

tuxfool

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"Bells and whistles"? It is so bizarre how many video game fans talk about video game engines with no understanding of what a video game engine is.
In many cases, I wouldn't call iterating on the engine "adding bells and whistles". In the case of creation engine, I could make an exception to that. There are some core issues that they haven't resolved after all this time. In this case adding a new renderer, might help it look good but it doesn't save the engine from the underlying cruft.
 

Edge

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Jesus Christ.

That's it. No more in house Bethesda games for me. That's ridiculous, they just don't deserve my money. Sorry.
 

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Game engine outrage is the worst kind of outrage since this when you get the crowd who really doesn't know what they're talking about.
 
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How?

Seriously. Fallout 76 already looks dated as hell, hell...4 already did. And yes I know they can keep updating it but again, Fallout 76 is a game coming out three years after 4 and it easily could have been a big mod when you look at the visuals.

But I'm sure around the time Starfield comes out, not to mention TES VI, it will look better than their games now. They really have to be. You just can't come with those visuals in 2021 or beyond.

We already know the new games will have the new animation system, so there's that. I'm sure character models and the worlds will look better too.
 

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I love all the people that are like "no one knows what an engine is and how it works!" while at the same time, most of them have probably never even tried to use any of Bethesdas tools.

The same clunky shit that does not allow you to do -anything- state of the art for so many years now, it wont magically change now.

There's a reason why Bethesda games always look a generation behind, and it's not their artists.
 

Heckler456

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Your right but......
To be fair the industry did that to them selfs by being a black box of video game making magic for over 20 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_engine

You can suss out quite a lot of information that's pretty relevant. Like, this is me speaking as a complete layman, but it seems to me that a game engine is more like a suite of software than one big whole, and that some part of an engine need regular updating whole others would be a huge waste of time to completely rewrite.
 

tuxfool

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"Bells and whistles"? It is so bizarre how many video game fans talk about video game engines with no understanding of what a video game engine is.
In many cases, I wouldn't call iterating on an engine "adding bells and whistles". In the case of creation engine, I could make an exception to that. There are some core issues that they haven't resolved after all this time. For example, adding a new renderer, might help it look good superficially but it doesn't save the engine from the underlying cruft.
 

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The Stussining
The original interview was posted here months ago. Of course, people were only interested in the excerpt about cross-platform play, despite that being the single smallest and least fleshed-out response in the entire interview.
Oh shoot that's right it really did come from that interview. Watch someone digs through this interview a third time for a third "scandal".
 

Razor Mom

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Game engine outrage is the worst kind of outrage since this when you get the crowd who really doesn't know what they're talking about.
It's kind of funny now. I was annoyed at first, but now theres this actual discussion going on where we're talking about just that, and between the responses theres just a dozen posts of "WOW WELL THEY'RE NOT GETTING MY MONEY NOW LOL"
 

Morrigan

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This information does not appear to be accurate. Mistakes happen, but be more mindful in the future, OP.
 
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