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Top Spin 2k25 |OT| Not that kind of spinning top
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Clothes & Hair Physics is almost none in PC :: TopSpin 2K25 General Discussions
Hello Devs, I just noticed in PC version, why is the clothes and hair physics is not the same in PS5? The movement of clothes and hair in PC is almost unnoticeable? Do we not deserved to have a quality and eye catching 2k25?
How is it even possible ?
Sharapova is so broken that it is really starting to frustrate me.
She has the 2nd best forehand, the 2nd best backhand, the 2nd best serve and the highest power in the game. Sure she has terrible volleys and isn't really fast. But what does that matter when you can just punch your way through every point and hit a winner from everywhere. Just played against a top 10 player in the world when he was using Sharapova, he just hit winners from everywhere. Even on my perfect shots.
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I also noticed there are only 3.000 players ranked right now with the Pro's. So that possibly means the game has sold 15.000 copies at most right now? That's pretty worrying...
She has the 2nd best forehand, the 2nd best backhand, the 2nd best serve and the highest power in the game. Sure she has terrible volleys and isn't really fast. But what does that matter when you can just punch your way through every point and hit a winner from everywhere. Just played against a top 10 player in the world when he was using Sharapova, he just hit winners from everywhere. Even on my perfect shots.
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I also noticed there are only 3.000 players ranked right now with the Pro's. So that possibly means the game has sold 15.000 copies at most right now? That's pretty worrying...
Pre-ordered this. Will be the first tennis game I've played since Virtua Tennis 2009 and the first Top Spin I've ever played. I've heard that this is a lot less arcadey than Virtua Tennis, which I absolutely loved, but I'm looking forward to getting to grips with it.
keep in mind the game officially releases only tomorrow, everyone playing right now has bought the more expensive version to be able to play 3 days sooner. I don't think the game will sell extremely well but hard to say anything before the official release
I was going to hold off but decided in the end to pre-order the standard edition. Seems like there's a decent core game there and it has been so long since a good tennis game. Couldn't get into TWT or AO.
It is frustrating that it seems so low budget from features to player list and character models. I feel like we'll never get a big, high quality tennis game again since it is difficult to monetise the way big publishers want to do.
It is frustrating that it seems so low budget from features to player list and character models. I feel like we'll never get a big, high quality tennis game again since it is difficult to monetise the way big publishers want to do.
That's not how it works, the game isn't out until tomorrow, and the percentage of people buying the ultimate editions will be small compared to the standard one. Also, the amount of people playing ranked with pros will be small too, especially at this stage.
People will play careers more than online, myplayer will be more popular online too for the reasons you stated with overpowered pros.
I'm sure they took into account how many copies they would likely sell before making the game. I think overall it will sell enough, what ever that is!
Anyway my standard edition just come through the post :)
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There's not supposed to be. The PC version is supposed to be the "next gen" version.
For instance, NBA 2K on PC is still on last gen (PS4/XB1)
But then the post above says about hair and clothes physics not being in the PC version so maybe it is the last gen version.
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It was supposedly confirmed by devs prior to release it was in fact the next gen version so who knows.
Time stamped in this video, just use subtitles if needed.
View: https://youtu.be/0EWAa8lVGH8?t=79
Thought I saw someone mention somewhere that you hold that when hitting a shot to make your player immediately charge the net after. Could have been the other bumper though, not sure.
Bought the game early access cus I gotta support the realistic tennis games. This game feels like a reskin of Top Spin 4. It felt like I was back in 2011 , cus even the animations and the litttle details seem exactly the same. I did really like TS4 but disappointed there were no real animation or gameplay changes from 4.
I'm not sure why the devs haven't put it on Switch tbh. The graphics aren't exactly next level.
Keep reading the thread, there's a response or two from others with their own PC recording showing the hair/cloth physics are fine and not like the OP's. Likely a bug or something weird going on with the OP's settings?Clothes & Hair Physics is almost none in PC :: TopSpin 2K25 General Discussions
Hello Devs, I just noticed in PC version, why is the clothes and hair physics is not the same in PS5? The movement of clothes and hair in PC is almost unnoticeable? Do we not deserved to have a quality and eye catching 2k25?steamcommunity.com
How is it even possible ?
I'm wondering the same. Originally I saw from 2K that it would be midnight Eastern time on 4/26, and my Fanatical key said the same when I preordered. Now my key says 4/25 and the Steam countdown as ended and changed to "coming soon."
It's not as realistic as tennis elbow 4 imo. That is still the peak of tennis simulation for me despite it being such a smaller project .
It feels just like top spin 4 so if you liked that you will like this .
Clothes & Hair Physics is almost none in PC :: TopSpin 2K25 General Discussions
Hello Devs, I just noticed in PC version, why is the clothes and hair physics is not the same in PS5? The movement of clothes and hair in PC is almost unnoticeable? Do we not deserved to have a quality and eye catching 2k25?
How is it even possible ?
As someone who has some experience with cloth physics being implemented in a game, my first thought was wondering if they were comparing the same asset because cloth physics isn't something you just turn on and everything just has cloth physics. Each asset needs to be set up to have it work on it and how each asset works with cloth flow can vary or just not even support it at all. But having looked at the two videos in the thread, that's not it since it's the same character and same outfit.
My next thought is that maybe it's a framerate difference because cloth physics can behave differently at different framerates. Sure enough, that seems like it might be the case here. My game runs about 100fps on my PC, but if I crank up the rendering resolution to like 150% then I see a change in the cloth physics behavior. So my guess is that person is running at a really high framerate while the PS5 version is locked to 60 fps and that's why there's a difference in how the cloth looks. I would bet if they clamped down their framerate to 60, then it would look pretty similar to the PS5.
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It's actually fun.
Sorry, I'm not a fan of that series lol. TE is definitely more realistic if that's what you like.
The hair and cloth physics are identical on PC. I know, I have the game on multiple platforms 👍
I'm 90% sure the difference is pre-release footage vs post-release. That's all it is imo. The cloth physics were ridiculously over the top in the original preview footage from PS5. They essentially fixed it for the final release.
That could be too as I don't know the source of that PS5 footage, but there is definitely a difference based on framerate too in this case from the quick look I just did. Is the difference as big? I didn't compare closely enough but you can have a behavior change based on framerate here.
Edit: Going back to the PS5 footage, that video was only posted 3 days ago. So my guess is it's the actual current version and not the pre-release footage. So I think my observation is probably the likely reason. The higher the framerate, the less movement there is in this case.
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Good taste in sports. I always see you in the usual weird threads. Golf and now tennis. Cheers LOL
Our review, in Spanish. Played on Series S.
Limited in some regards, but still very gratifying to play, surprisingly close to its predecessors, and probably the best tennis game since 2011:
https://www.colectivaxbox.com/2024/04/analisis-top-spin-2k25.html
Limited in some regards, but still very gratifying to play, surprisingly close to its predecessors, and probably the best tennis game since 2011:
https://www.colectivaxbox.com/2024/04/analisis-top-spin-2k25.html
Controller!!! You need full analogue controls for this game for both movement and aiming. You can't even do the full power serves unless you have a right thumbstick 😅. KBM is truly awful for tennis.
Thanks, I figured as much but think I was watching a streamer play MKB in early access and figured...maybe some auto-aim style advantage? Ok off I go!
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It keeps crashing on PC and bringing up the 2k support site, any fixes or do I have to wait for a patch?
Sure, but I would assume that an edition like that would be at least 5 to 10% of the sales and with that even in mind that doesn't mean well.
Don't get me wrong, I hope this game is a giant succes so that 2K can build on this game to make even better tennis games in the future.
Great first impression. Seems the developers smartly spent their budget. It's lacking bells and whistles (player models, HDR, among other things) but it looks (gameplay) and plays great. The presentation package is also pretty good (introduction, menus, transitions, chill music).
Looking forward to creating my player and starting a career. While I'm not a fan of micro transactions, they didn't seem to be on your face so far. We'll see.
Hopefully we get a new version of this every 2 years ala PGA and WWE games.
Looking forward to creating my player and starting a career. While I'm not a fan of micro transactions, they didn't seem to be on your face so far. We'll see.
Hopefully we get a new version of this every 2 years ala PGA and WWE games.
