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Transphobes are abusing and doxxing Stardew Valley fans after they asked the game developer for pronouns
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For better or worse it doesn't strike me as strange or even conflicting. SV and games like it in that leave the urban and farm somewhere deep in rural lands that contemporaneity hasn't touched, they're very easy to shape into the mold of the fantasy that queer people are a thing of modernity and don't fit into places that align "closer to nature" where urban aberrations are weak against the truth of the wilderness. Cozyness means a lot of things to different people and to some it will be acceptance of transphobia and homophobia. SV has always been very aligned with cozy/minority/queer/progressive fandoms but that's just a subset of its community, and the rest has a place for these kinds of hateful people.
Oh yeah I'm not saying I'd actually do it or that we should, just that it sometimes feels tempting
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Good to know although my correction still stands for people who genuinely will attempt to misgender bigots. 😅
Like why the fuck do you pour energy to hate on other people
You don't agree with dev's decision fine but go along with your merry life and leave people alone for fuck's sake
Disheartening that people get angry for something that has zero real impact on their life and would make somebody else happy
You don't agree with dev's decision fine but go along with your merry life and leave people alone for fuck's sake
Disheartening that people get angry for something that has zero real impact on their life and would make somebody else happy
The lenghts and hoops some assholes are willing to jump through just to not let other people being treated fairly always is impressive, and depressing, fuck em.
Just did a look into the game and didn't even realize it was this deep, I'm gonna be in trouble if it clicks😮💨
I've been like, deeply obsessed with stardew and the modding scene and even watching streams for the past month and I have seen _nothing_ about any of this in the past month, weird. First I've heard of this at all. Obviously it is not acceptable for any harassment to be occurring though.
The main mods page on Nexus is full of all kinds of queer content and I've never seen any pushback
The main mods page on Nexus is full of all kinds of queer content and I've never seen any pushback
I'll never understand why people care so much about something that doesn't affect them in the slightest.
I was going to say something but...
Why even try after this? It perfectly encapsulates the entire situation.
It's never about not wanting to choose pronouns, it's about having games be for them and them only.
Why even try after this? It perfectly encapsulates the entire situation.
It's never about not wanting to choose pronouns, it's about having games be for them and them only.
A lot of people interpret "trans" as only referring to people that switch from one gender binary to the other, including non-binary people that don't consider themselves trans. As these are self-applied labels meant to make people feel better about themselves, I think it's good to not force strict definitions on them.
I can testify to this, namely on the Splatoon front. I had to misfortune of running into one on Twitter.
Words are overloaded! "Trans" has multiple meanings, there's the idea of the "trans umbrella" which includes nonbinary people. But individual nonbinary people may or may not identify as trans, depending on a number of factors such as whether they've changed their general appearance or are medically transitioning.
Nowadays twitter is full of despicable people unfortunately.
I'm just glad a huge portion of the splatoon community is extremely open and accepting.
Labels are labels, it isn't good to lump people into categories they aren't comfortable with. A lot people who happen to live outside of their gender assigned at birth and have the privilege to do so without compromising their security will reject being labeled as trans so they don't have to worry about being targeted, and many others that don't have the privilege or safety to be themselves will reject being labeled trans as well for that reason.
They're all valid.
Totally fair views and I appreciate both of you for teaching me this viewpoint. I think it's my programmer brain thinking in absolute terms of like, if Cis = (int 0) then Trans = (any float value > 0). I'll do a better job of correcting myself because you're both completely correct that it's up to the individual to decide that regardless of my subjective idea of what being trans means
I wish I could say I was baffled by this, but unfortunately some folk are complete and utter losers who have rejected humanity and seek to let others know on any platform afforded to them.
Yet, that's the thing: they are losers and will lose the war. Old enough to have family and friends with teenage kids and they bat not an eyelid at this bullshit that insecure middle-aged men (for the most part) are peddling.
Yet, that's the thing: they are losers and will lose the war. Old enough to have family and friends with teenage kids and they bat not an eyelid at this bullshit that insecure middle-aged men (for the most part) are peddling.
We have a lot of long-standing traditions across a variety of faiths and cultures that teach their own superiority. The end result is that cruelty comes casually and easily once those beliefs are internalized. It shuts down a lot of recognition of the harm and cruelty that is actually being done by practicing the belief, or at least leveraging the belief to maintain one's own sense of superiority.
The kinda good news is, I think the fact that folks that get up in arms over something like the player having the option to select or input their pronouns in a fucking video game means that the legitimacy of their sense of superiority has long been pretty well undermined and all that's left to do is grasp at whatever stupid ass straws are still standing.
But I also don't want pointing that out to mean that it's not doing harm. It is. This process really sucks to see happen more and more often, but I think it's a sign that those ideas have been intellectually pretty damn defeated if we're to take any upsides. We just have to survive the death thrashing and making sure it doesn't kill our ability to keep moving forward toward better and more inclusive ideas.
I don't get it? It's just an option right? What does it matter? They aren't being forced to play as anything.
Hoping they add it in a patch. The bigots are irrelevant it would just be a nice treat for those that want it. But I also hope the ones flinging abuse and hate trip and eat shit offline.
Thanks for asking the question, because I appreciated reading the discussion and viewpoints about it.
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A bit of self promotion here but one of my jobs is I'm a consultant on trans and non-binary issues, so I'm happy to answer DMs on questions people are too scared to ask without sounding transphobic or enbyphobic or they think it's a "stupid" question. So if you or anyone have any questions or opinions related to being genderqueer I'm happy to do so too.
I don't tend to advertise that fact about me but hey ho.
It's actually a very small part. Survey after survey shows overwhelming support for trans people from the LGB community - 70% to 80% strongly support, across multiple countries.
The media blows the "LGB without the T" part out of all proportion because it plays well with their overarching anti-trans narrative and hatred. But the vast majority of queer people support our trans allies.
'Lesbians being anti-trans is a lesbophobic trope'
Amy Ashenden, Interim CEO of Just Like Us, is dispelling the harmful trope that lesbians are against the trans community.
www.gaytimes.co.uk
Well, a vocal, small minority that gets finance from very dubious sources and finds a lot of sympathic press, especially here in the UK.
Is this site credible? I don't doubt this is story is true, anti-LGBTQ folks are always out there, but where are they getting these quotes and/or information from? It says Twitch, but doesn't mention any details at all, only vaguely mentioning a couple "users" talking about it...
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You can see it in the replies to this tweet, even:
View: https://twitter.com/ConcernedApe/status/1784412637276811326
User Banned (Permanent): Transphobia, Account in Junior Phase
The devs were getting heat just for not including pronouns. I wish we could be honest with the news hear.
I'm a gamer and I don't.... Shit.... Me gamer... Gamer hate pronouns, gamer no use them... Fuck.
It's so exhausting and sad to have to share a planet with people who, on top of being so entitled and filled with hate, are this fucking stupid.
It's so exhausting and sad to have to share a planet with people who, on top of being so entitled and filled with hate, are this fucking stupid.
They know that, too. It's a thin dogwhistle to act transphobic. Sartre pointed this out 80 years ago:I'll never understand how so many idiots are triggered by a fundamental aspect of language.
