pulsemyne

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I've often heard of lawyers dishing out 130,000 of their own money to pay hush money. Happens all the time. Lawyers are well known philanthropists! (sarcasm)

If a lawyer was certain the story was bollocks then they would much rather take it to court and clear their clients name. Earns them money. No lawyer would turn down a pay day like that unless they knew it was true.
 

HockeyBird

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Oct 27, 2017
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Ya know... I honestly feel really bad for Melania.

Trump and his followers can try to brush it off as fake news but the fact is, is that this really happened and everyone knows it. She has to be seen with him and look people in the eye who ALSO know it. It's so disrespectful and embarrassing. Also feel for Barron.

When all this is over and she divorces him, I'm going to genuinely feel happy for her.

Melania is a garbage person too. Don't feel bad. She knows that Trump is a sexual predator that cheated on her. She knows that he is a racist. She knows that he is lazy. She knows he has the maturity and intelligence of a child. Forget the porn star thing. There are multiple other reasons to not stand by Trump but she supports him anyway.
 

Sub Level

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The shit Trump can get away with is so fucking baffling. 10 years ago, a Democrat said "YEAH!" in an awkward way and it tanked his presidential hopes.

Obummer saluted a soldier while holding a cup one time. A cup!

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The sheer audacity of this motherfucker not appreciating the brave sacrifices of our young men and women overseas.
 
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It'd be really nice if Melania divorces him in office. Why stick around? Literal history books will be written about your dirtbag husband cheating on you. This is what you will be remembered for. Even if you were with him for the money you'd get a fat payout.
 

LakeEarth

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It'd be really nice if Melania divorces him in office. Why stick around? Literal history books will be written about your dirtbag husband cheating on you. This is what you will be remembered for. Even if you were with him for the money you'd get a fat payout.
I'm sure their marriage was full of contracts and stipulations where if she leaves, she gets next to nothing. That's the only thing that makes any sense to me.
 

Donos

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Nov 15, 2017
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The shit Trump can get away with is so fucking baffling. 10 years ago, a Democrat said "YEAH!" in an awkward way and it tanked his presidential hopes.
Yeah, politicians here in germany career stumble about tiny shit while Trump has done stuff which would have ended several chancellors here.
 

Retromelon

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Oct 25, 2017
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Obummer saluted a soldier while holding a cup one time. A cup!

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The sheer audacity of this motherfucker not appreciating the brave sacrifices of our young men and women overseas.
This is the best obama scandal. He should have put his cup down on the airplane steps, completely halting michelle, salute the guys for 5 seconds, then awkwardly pick up the cup and continue
 

daveo42

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Oct 25, 2017
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Glad we finally got that settled. See guys, no campaign finance fraud occurred because his lawyer paid out, not Trump's campaign fund.
 

BossAttack

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Oct 27, 2017
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Ya know... I honestly feel really bad for Melania.

Trump and his followers can try to brush it off as fake news but the fact is, is that this really happened and everyone knows it. She has to be seen with him and look people in the eye who ALSO know it. It's so disrespectful and embarrassing. Also feel for Barron.

When all this is over and she divorces him, I'm going to genuinely feel happy for her.

She knew what she was getting into, she's helped protect him, she isn't a prisoner.

No sympathy.
 

VariantX

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It'd be really nice if Melania divorces him in office. Why stick around? Literal history books will be written about your dirtbag husband cheating on you. This is what you will be remembered for. Even if you were with him for the money you'd get a fat payout.

Money and plus you know people are going to run through her past and publicly trash her just to help the president save face, if that's even possible. Even if there's nothing there, they can simply manufacture it, and people are already ready to believe what they want to believe. She could leave him right now if she wanted to otherwise.
 

ItIsOkBro

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Oct 25, 2017
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So Trump didn't pay Stormy...Trump paid the lawyer and the lawyer paid Stormy! If this is the kind of workaround these geniuses come up with I can only hope that Mueller is going to have a field day.
 

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That's not a spin. So there's no affair but he paid her to not talk about something that didn't happen?

So someone can just make up random nonoccurences and he pays people not to say it? What?
you don't think this is how the narrative is going to play out amoung trump supporters? because I can guarantee you it will. That or they will juwt handwave it and pretend it didn't happen.
 

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lol, ever heard of double standards ?
one side has no moral values. Everything republicans do is OK by them but everything dems do is atrocious.
it doesn't matter what republicans think. We are trying to energize our base and starting to fight back against republican rhetoric. Did you watch chuck's speech during the shutdown? It was one of the few times dems were at the center of national coverage and he flubbed it. It's time to start fighting back.
 

Yamajian

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Oct 30, 2017
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So he is saying he paid her because she was lying?

Ok everyone, you know how to get 130K now. Go go go
 

CopperPuppy

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I'm so confused by this now, which I guess is their intention - to obfuscate by throwing as much shit in the air as possible.

But foreal, I SWEAR Trump called the Daniels thing fake news like he does everything else. Now his lawyer is saying a hush payment WAS made?
 

Ebullientprism

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He didn't say Tuesday night why would have made such a large payment on his own initiative without reimbursement. And he also left it unclear what the payment was even for.

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Oh Oh I know this. I know this. Can I guess?

I'm so confused by this now, which I guess is their intention - to obfuscate by throwing as much shit in the air as possible.

But foreal, I SWEAR Trump called the Daniels thing fake news like he does everything else. Now his lawyer is saying a hush payment WAS made?

No they are saying a payment was made but the hush is fake. :D
 

Yamajian

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I'm so confused by this now, which I guess is their intention - to obfuscate by throwing as much shit in the air as possible.

But foreal, I SWEAR Trump called the Daniels thing fake news like he does everything else. Now his lawyer is saying a hush payment WAS made?

The payment was real but the news was fake
 

Jag

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Oct 26, 2017
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They haven't come straight out and said it yet, but the spin is going to be that the money was to stop her from spreading rumors about a false affair.

As usual, nobody will believe Trump but absolutely nothing will come of it. Teflon Don strikes again.
 

Chopchop

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Oct 25, 2017
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As usual, nobody will believe Trump but absolutely nothing will come of it. Teflon Don strikes again.
It's like a scandal version of the Gish Gallop.

The guy shits himself in public so often that no one even has the time to say much about it before he shits himself again.
 

Icekilla

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Oct 27, 2017
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It'd be really nice if Melania divorces him in office. Why stick around? Literal history books will be written about your dirtbag husband cheating on you. This is what you will be remembered for. Even if you were with him for the money you'd get a fat payout.

Hillary didn't leave Bill, why would Melania leave trump?
 

Jersey_Tom

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Law News is making the case that Cohen's admission to the payment could lead to criminal charges against himself and possibly the President.

They explain this is very similar to the John Edwards case where Edwards recieved outside money that he used to pay off someone he had an affair with during his candidacy for President. Such money, federal prosecutors argued, should be viewed as campaign contributions and would have been in excess of what's allowed for individual contributions.

Edwards claimed he didn't know about the payments which Cohen is arguing for Trump. And though that was enough for a jury to acquit Edwards on one charge and a hung jury on four others, it wasn't enough to not have charges filed in the first place.

Now Cohen is maintaining it was a lawful transaction that had nothing to do with the campaign. Problem is the payment came while Trump was seeking the Presidency so the question becomes why he made the payment, which he hasn't revealed. If it was made to benefit Trump as hush money then it very well could be considered a campaign contribution, would be in excess of what's allowed for an individual donation, and could lead to other charges like fraud and Cohen's disbarment.

Very interesting stuff here, but someone actually has to go to the trouble of investigating this further and pressing charges.
 

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I kinda wish we were in the alternate reality where Melania left him before the election, and we're subject to Trump trotting out a different 20-something blonde to every international summit.
 

Watchtower

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The fucked up part to me is that, bullshit or not, this is still another lawyer willing to fall on the sword for Donald Trump. A man that will pamper you right up until you're no longer of use, in which case he'll toss you out like yesterday's trash. And you can't say you didn't see it coming, because he's done this routine for decades.

How the hell does self-preservation not kick in at some point?
 

KarmaCow

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The fucked up part to me is that, bullshit or not, this is still another lawyer willing to fall on the sword for Donald Trump. A man that will pamper you right up until you're no longer of use, in which case he'll toss you out like yesterday's trash. And you can't say you didn't see it coming, because he's done this routine for decades.

How the hell does self-preservation not kick in at some point?

Probably because he's done other more egregious, actually illegal shit for Trump that taking the fall for this is less damaging.
 

Kneecap

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Oct 27, 2017
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I'd contribute to this thread but I'm busy choosing the next recipient of my $130K largesse.
 

Kalamoj

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The fucked up part to me is that, bullshit or not, this is still another lawyer willing to fall on the sword for Donald Trump. A man that will pamper you right up until you're no longer of use, in which case he'll toss you out like yesterday's trash. And you can't say you didn't see it coming, because he's done this routine for decades.

How the hell does self-preservation not kick in at some point?
At the end of the day they are in the business for money. Being a scapegoat probably cost a fortune on this level. They will be fine.
And of course future clients will see that you will take care about them.
 

Jag

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Oct 26, 2017
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The fucked up part to me is that, bullshit or not, this is still another lawyer willing to fall on the sword for Donald Trump. A man that will pamper you right up until you're no longer of use, in which case he'll toss you out like yesterday's trash. And you can't say you didn't see it coming, because he's done this routine for decades.

How the hell does self-preservation not kick in at some point?

Some of these people are in so deep, they have no where to go except even deeper.