You guys and your "Putin will invade Europe" , "wants to rebuild Soviet Union". lol. Ridiculous.
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Trump considering troop withdrawal from Germany
- Thread starter Xando
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I'm sure his invasion of Crimea and Georgia were just fun little romps that got out of hand.
He doesn't need to invade. There are other ways to get power over them, and it's working beautifully right now.
Also, what about Ukraine and Georgia?
I grew up in Germany as an army brat. This hurts my soul, both from protecting our troops in the various nearby theatres and from maintaining relations with the countries we actually SHOULD be maintaining relations with.
We can offset it with billions worth of patents the US stole after WW2.
Why are you such a raging nationalist?
Okay, yes Putin is a dictator who's oppressing his people and murdering any vocal critic. He's not an evil genius masterminding the rise of a new superpower exactly.
He's a bog-standard strongman dictator who has to use violent rhetoric to keep his people under control.
There is no fixing here cause where is the guarantee that the next president you elect after that isn't worse than Trump. The American voting population is absolutely untrustworthy for everything you're negotiating from now on is gonna be on 4 year time frames.
Learn some goddamn history before you spout such insanely ignorant garbage. Vietnam, the middle east, etc suddenly don't exist? Guess that's the level of brainwashing people go through buying into the American exceptionalism memes. That American citizen actually believe every time they go to fight somewhere it's for a noble righteous cause or justified is certainly one of the most toxic things ever, the literal lack of any kind of self reflection to do that.
He made a "US should annex Canada" thread back at the sunken place.
Edit. Beaten.
UK, France, and Germany have absoloutly nothing to worry about when it comes to Russia. Putin isn't stupid enough try anything.
Looking out for Eastern European countries is what we need to be doing.
Looking out for Eastern European countries is what we need to be doing.
There was one here too. I put a thinly veiled argument forward for a swift soft power political annexation of the USA by Canada. I didn't get a response.
Is there nukes in Germany? I was only ever aware of nukes being in CONUS and Turkey the only place OCUNUS.
by stomping Russia and its people into the ground as a stepping stone in the process.
Probably. And he's pissed at Merkel, so this makes sense.
So he's sacrificing pawns in order to gain some Queens?
Sounds like something a dictator would do...
Won't surprise me at all if putin tries to do to what he did last time with Ukraine and Crimea, but on a larger scale while also causing chaos politically.
Fucking russians and nazis.
Edit: shit meant to edit this in not post a second reply...
Fucking russians and nazis.
Edit: shit meant to edit this in not post a second reply...
Military actually shows quite the low support for Trump for a Republican president. You can expect that there is a lot of resistence within the US military to anything Trump related.
I mean I keep telling people, there's historical precedent in the past and present for this shit and we learn nothing.
This is exactly what's happening. Most telegraphed shenanigans ever.
The rebuilding of the Soviet Union already started in 1992 with the Transnistria war.
Yes, in Büchel. There are multiple countrys in europe with U.S. nukes.
Russia isn't attacking Eastern Europe any time soon so the American presence in Germany doesn't pose much of a deterrence factor. However, the bases in Germany are key to American military operations in the Middle East so removing them will cripple their ability in just about all aspects. It'd incur a huge burden on the American military that it's mind-boggling to even consider. It would put a curb on the American penchant for adventurism, so it's not necessarily all bad news, but even this isn't in a way that actually helps the US.
Moving all the Germany located bases and HQs would also cost many billions and would take easily a decade to finish.
So much ignorance here. Here's the reality.
US foreign policy is extremely complicated and boiling said policy down to simple talking points is disingenuous.
The idea the US is some evil imperialist empire is embarrassingly dumb
US foreign policy is extremely complicated and boiling said policy down to simple talking points is disingenuous.
The idea the US is some evil imperialist empire is embarrassingly dumb
It's quite impressive that, in the end, Russia discovered the greatest weapon in war is not nukes or tanks, it is realizing that dominance had made your enemy complacent and stupid over the years, and then taking advantage of that stupidity. Like, really, who would have imagined a world where Russia realized, "Hey, the USA is ready to accept a Nero, and I just happen to have one in my pocket!"
Look at this magnificent trump and or bot or Russian poster.
My god so much jingoism and brainwashing.
Fuck republicans. Seriously. It is so fucking obvious what trump is doing.
The entire GOP is compromised by Russian influence. It needs to be purged.
The entire GOP is compromised by Russian influence. It needs to be purged.
Yea. I mean it's not like Russia has invaded nearby neighbors like Ukraine or Georgia yet. Oh wait. Clearly Russia isn't going to invade Germany now or ever but, the Balkan and Baltic countries, I'd expect "votes for becoming part of Russia" to pass soon.
I wonder that every day. I just don't understand the US.
I feel like in most places one of the following would have happened already:
- Vote of non-confidence removing him from power
- Government shutdown caused by riots
- Assassination
And yet, everything is just trucking along normally over there (well, I mean, the administration is disjointed, but it's still functioning).
Everyone saying that Russian isn't going to invade Europe is absolutely correct, but make no mistake that a US draw down in Europe is a HUGE boon for Russia.
The ONLY way Russia gains more global political/ military power is for the US to give some up... it sucks that our foreign policy is to be everywhere getting involved in everything, but that is how you maintain being the most important global super power. Which is increasing becoming like one of the only "good" things the US has going for it, and we are slowly giving that up too
The ONLY way Russia gains more global political/ military power is for the US to give some up... it sucks that our foreign policy is to be everywhere getting involved in everything, but that is how you maintain being the most important global super power. Which is increasing becoming like one of the only "good" things the US has going for it, and we are slowly giving that up too
This is an act of treason. Seriously, this is fucking treason. I'm am literally shaking I'm so mad and scared. Trump is the defintion of evil and anyone defending this is evil too. You are all apart of the Axis of evil. Russia is going to start a fucking Nuclear War and you people are denying this reality. WE ARE AT FUCKING WAR. We should have fucking invaded Russia the second they attacked Crimea. They're already stronger then the US thanks to Trump. The Republicans have committed treason and betrayed America.