They won't. They cannot. Or else their life folds faster than a pre-built tent.
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Hey, at least on Resetera nobody has to see all the dancing I'm doing as I post.
WeChat is way more than a messaging client, but I agree with your general take that TikTok is the first Asian app (if you can even call them that) that got serious penetration to the American market.
And like I donno, I don't think it's conspiratorial to say that silicon valley and their lobbying firms are not super exited about this development.
American companies don't like competition. Republican banned Toshiba from the US market in the 80s because Reagan blame them of making stealth subs for the USSR. Like, you couldn't buy a Toshiba deck tape in America for years because some right wing idiots god scared from The Hunt for Red October.
Guys I'm going to teach you a revolutionary way to deal with apps you don't enjoy or trust
Don't use them. Nobody is forcing you to pay any attention to apps if you don't want to
Don't use them. Nobody is forcing you to pay any attention to apps if you don't want to
If targeting an app that aggravated Trump were the issue, you'd likely see something else banned long before TikTok.
This is drawing from the same national security motivations that led the administration to take action against Huawei and ZTE in 2018. You have to admit that there is a security precedent here and not just "TikTok memes make the orange boomer angry."
I'm all for it just because I'm curious how the hell he expects to pull this off exactly. Trump says a lot of shit, never holds much weight.
I'm 36 and way too old to have faith in the banning of this energizing the youth vote enough to have a significant impact on the election. I think it will be forgotten in a few weeks. Of course I'll hope I'm wrong and a massive amount of 18-22 year olds or whatever who weren't going out to help us get rid of agent orange now will. Hope I'm wrong but doubt it.
Would you advocate for the rest of the world to ban social media from America especially when Snowden episode happened?
Social Media shaped the narratives ( truth or fabricated ) of the world after all.
Have you considered that this line of reasoning is why he's targeting Tiktok first and not anything else? Because it gives him an excuse while allowing him to set a precedent?
like I'm sure China would actually love to spy on people in the US and other countries. I do not use Tiktok, and I can get being waryof that on a personal level. I can also understand barring it's use on devices owned by government workers in important positions whose info in particular would be very valuable. Banning it for everyone without really solid evidence is not something we should be cheering on
If you want to end spyware, write some legislation so that apps are put to a test, like car emissions standards. If they fail, or cheat, like VW did, you make Google/Apple pull the apps, and make the ISPs blackhole the servers and fine them until they come into compliance.
Regulation will protect consumers and make companies compete on a more leveled playing field.
We want standards so that everyone walks up to the same line, and they pass or they fail, and if you're spyware for a foreign government, you fail. What we don't want is the POTUS declaring you spyware.
Regulation will protect consumers and make companies compete on a more leveled playing field.
We want standards so that everyone walks up to the same line, and they pass or they fail, and if you're spyware for a foreign government, you fail. What we don't want is the POTUS declaring you spyware.
Yep. If spyware is the concern then the laws should apply to all apps equally. Singling one app out specifically like this is incredibly dangerous and I don't see how people here don't understand that
Thank you, President Trump. TikTok is a fucking blight on society* and must be stopped!
*TikTok is a sex thing, right kids?
*TikTok is a sex thing, right kids?
I find it hypocritical about Trump talking about how he's "Tough on China" yet he has no problem asking Xi Jinping for help on the upcoming election.
Let's be real, he's only doing this because he's mad about K-Pop stans successfully trolling him on his campaign rally back in Tulsa.
Privacy standards? You're crazy. America is about freedom! Well... until some arbitrary subjective and undisclosed (or nefarious) threshold is exceeded of course. THEN they deserve to be censored/banned. /s
If said United States company was as entwined with the ruling political class as Chinese companies frequently are and are blatantly creating their apps with massive security issues, I could see the justification for it.
That tech companies who dominate the industry in America, like Apple, have fought the US government on encryption and access (such as the San Bernadino case), I have slightly - not much, mind you - more faith of independence on the part of American companies than Chinese companies in this comparison.
I don't know how this would even be feasible with apps that constantly talk to the internet and update. It's not as easy to update a car (although it's getting there).
TikTok users are trying to troll Trump's campaign by reserving tickets for Tulsa rally they'll never use
Only a matter of time until Trump goes after TikTok... https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/16/politics/tiktok-trump-tulsa-rally-trnd/index.html
www.resetera.com
Trump Rally Turnout Was Just Under 6,200–A Fraction Of The Venue’s 19,200 Capacity (UP: His campaign says 12,000)
So close to a million. https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/06/21/turnout-at-trumps-tulsa-rally-was-just-under-6200a-fraction-of-the-venues-19200-capacity/#71443aa41fed Bonus:
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And yes, Trump is absolutely that petty.
People thought the GDPR wouldn't work and it would make Europe an island, but all the major websites adopted the standards and it's basically a non-issue now. Occasionally, Euro posters here complain that a website from a local small-town American newspaper blocks them, but for 99% of sites, they fall into compliance.
Not sure if there's a precedent for the US government telling Apple and Google to pull apps from their store.
But I'd imagine they would want to push back on this.
But I'd imagine they would want to push back on this.
Absolutely this. You get outside of straight tiktok and it's the most wholesome shit on the internet.
Externally managed data centers. Data localization. GDPR touches a lot of this. We can (well... could) work deals to inspect nuclear facilities, I don't see why we can't figure out something regarding data centers.
TikTok users are trying to troll Trump's campaign by reserving tickets for Tulsa rally they'll never use
Only a matter of time until Trump goes after TikTok... https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/16/politics/tiktok-trump-tulsa-rally-trnd/index.htmlTrump Rally Turnout Was Just Under 6,200–A Fraction Of The Venue’s 19,200 Capacity (UP: His campaign says 12,000)
So close to a million. https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/06/21/turnout-at-trumps-tulsa-rally-was-just-under-6200a-fraction-of-the-venues-19200-capacity/#71443aa41fed Bonus:
And yes, Trump is absolutely that petty.
I'm death
I wasn't talking about tech companies but the subset that are the social media ones.
When it comes to security issue, Snowden leaked PRISM programme existence and he's now a fugitive in Russia.
Didn't India ban Tiktok earliar this month due to concerns of spyware? Mostly just to get back at China bit that's what they said.
They nees to put all these assholes on task for selling our data.
To be honest most people on thos forum couldn't give less of a shot about tiktok but yeah, fucking Facebook. They are all monopolies as well.
The American tech industry works with the US government on a bunch of sketchy things (the NSA hasn't developed all of its tech from scratch) and they also lobby the government to do a bunch of things on their behalf, but no one ever talk about American companies like they're "entwined with the ruling political class".
TikTok is not even a Chinese company, they are owned mostly by Chinese, but their headquarter is in LA and most of their engineers are Americans.
I don't think they are all "entwined with the ruling political class" of China.
It's just a software company that make vine because vine was good and twitter killed it because they're idiots and probably nazis.
And now Trump gonna ban it so we can all use instagram video instead. What a great victory for freedom.
Sad world that Boomers have been picking on Millenials for so long that Millenials have become just as bad as them for attacking Zoomers.
I say TikTok leans more left than any other social media app, so they're good in my eyes and hopefully it will get more people to vote in November.
I seriously do not get the reactions from a lot of you.
With all the damage Twitter, Facebook, and Youtube have caused, from radicalizing young men into incels, helping trump get elected, q anon, countless conspiracy theories, on and on, and you're all mad at an app where kids dance.
It makes no damn sense.
With all the damage Twitter, Facebook, and Youtube have caused, from radicalizing young men into incels, helping trump get elected, q anon, countless conspiracy theories, on and on, and you're all mad at an app where kids dance.
It makes no damn sense.
There is a lot of spyware out there.
Is it just me or do a lot of people on Twitter just hate TikTok? I thought I'd be seeing more closer comment to like ratios but a lot of people want this?
Do they know Facebook spies on your ass as well?
Tik Tok has a lot of problems and should be criticized for them but reading some of the takes in here makes it clear why gen z calls everyone born before them a boomer
It's probably another thread but I do begin to wonder if large gens are just inherently tyrannical
Also wtf Republicans crying about censorship when they're the ones trying to do just that, people don't see the bigger picture.
- Can't do anything about guns, nothing on police brutality, nothing about the Covid Deaths or the people struggling to survive each day without money..... But TikTok and China. . .
- Can't do anything about guns, nothing on police brutality, nothing about the Covid Deaths or the people struggling to survive each day without money..... But TikTok and China. . .
Was it ever this bad though? Honestly, I am starting to hear drums. Even if Biden wins.
And what a great victory for freedom it was.
Instagram pounces on India market after TikTok is banned
It's been a difficult week for TikTok — and Instagram just made it much harder.
www.cnn.com
Facebook, a company famous for never having any privacy or security concerns.
But hey, as long as they're Americans.
People hate on things that are popular. Just look at Fortnite.
Not a fan of this. The government being able to just up and ban social media apps like this is bad especially when social media is how a lot of times these days protesters organize and how we can get a glimpse of things outside of the curated bullshit that the news media wants to sell us. i.e. The BLM protests and how much of a goddamn failure the news media was at covering it.
Social media is important.
Social media is important.
