So, Trump aside, how does anyone here in this thread who are against the strikes propose how to prevent Assad using chemical weapons against his own people?
This just fuels the cycle of violence at the expense of the Syrian people! /s
Killing civilians with weapons of mass destruction is bad, okay.Yeah, they were horrible.
Just as horrible if they were killed with regular bombs or shot in the head, which happens all the time in Syria.
But because people are killed by drowning with foaming mouths and lungs, it somehow makes their murder even worse?
Dead is dead.
Are people really brainwashed to this degree? there are still people believing this funny (police of the world) image ? do you really, really think or believe they did that because of those ...chemical weapons (if they exist) and to save citizens? then what about saving Gazza or other places were people are dying mindlessly? the civil war has been going on and people were dying for years now in Syria, so why they are stepping in only now? its just the outcome wasn't to their liking. they want to weaken Al-Assad and his army because they consider him an enemy and they want to get rid of him. Trump is no different than Al-Assad at all, I'd say Trump is even worse, because he is the one bombing another country and middling in their affairs.
yeah because they know the outcome of such a massive attack this quick, and really no one was harmed even after dropping all those missiles!
what a strange world we live in.
anyway, I have many close people and friends there, I wish for their safety and I wish this war and acts of violence ends as soon as possible.
whereas launching cruise missiles into suburbs is fineKilling civilians with weapons of mass destruction is bad, okay.
i have to imagine that everyone here arguing for war is a teenager because anyone who remembers iraq has no excuse to be that fucking stupid
The US the US the US.
The whole narrative people are using to criticize the attacks is based on the idea that the US acted alone, on orders from Trump. But the reality is this is a joint effort by France, the UK, the US, and supported by many countries, including Canada and Germany.
Thanks lol
No, I'm talking about you.
lol
They have nowhere to go. We've shut the gates in Europe too.
It actually kinda is a dart throwto an extent. They attack what they believe to be the sites related to CW production. We will never know if they actually had any solid intel on targets or not. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't and targeted several facilities based on probability and what intel they have. Depends on who you choose to believe. These things are never as precise as we would like - thus collateral damage, friendly fire, wrong targets etc. War is a mess.The attack was because of Syria's use of chemical weapons. Which was used on innocent civilians. So yes. Russia's backing off Syria is only because of their need for Syria's Naval Ports. Which is more Noble?
There is a reason that 3 world powers attacked them after their use of chemical weapons. They attacked the chemical weapon facility as well as the research facility. No deaths. There is a reason Canada and Germany have come out in support of the attack.
So why do you think the attack was made? Just random dart throw and it hit Syria? Or was it the chemical weapons use on civilians?
No I know it won't make a flood of new refugees.You think striking a dozen military targets 7 years into a war will cause a flood of refugees? What?
A third of the country is already displaced FYI, those are stil there have seen way worse from their own government.
This is not a pre emptive strike, it is a response to Assad's use of Chemical weapons.We preemptively strike before verifying evidence, already have civilian casualties, and just escalated tensions with Russia. All around fuckery.
Are people really brainwashed to this degree? there are still people believing this funny (police of the world) image ? do you really, really think or believe they did that because of those ...chemical weapons (if they exist) and to save citizens? then what about saving Gazza or other places were people are dying mindlessly? the civil war has been going on and people were dying for years now in Syria, so why they are stepping in only now? its just the outcome wasn't to their liking. they want to weaken Al-Assad and his army because they consider him an enemy and they want to get rid of him. Trump is no different than Al-Assad at all, I'd say Trump is even worse, because he is the one bombing another country and middling in their affairs.
yeah because they know the outcome of such a massive attack this quick, and really no one was harmed even after dropping all those missiles!
what a strange world we live in.
anyway, I have many close people and friends there, I wish for their safety and I wish this war and acts of violence ends as soon as possible.
While I don't disagree with this, I think some people and countries might have a problem believing the good will of those countries, especially the US, when they choose to be friends with and turn a blind eye to what is happening between Palestine and Israel and what Saudi Arabia is doing in Yemen. It's difficult to understand why they are being so selective and makes the whole thing look hypocritical, even IF the original intention is for the good of the people. If you stand up for what's right - do it everywhere, otherwise you get the "protecting personal interests" perception.Places like Europe and the US are just land masses. They are not ever expanding paradises that has the room and resources to support every person that has a hard time in their country. That is why strikes like last night are needed when dictators get out of control. Is better refugee system possible? Sure. I live in Columbus, OH and in some places you would swear that you actually live in Somalia so I think we are doing an OK job with that with a lot of cities all things considered.
i'm reading that NOW they're gonna send a team to investigate the chemical attack, now that they've destroyed the "evidence"? yeah makes a lot of sense.
the chemical attack was just staged to give them an excuse for this attack, it's very obvious.
don't know, but unlike many of people in this thread i'm not able to believe without any evidence that it was assad, my guess would be the "rebels"
Soooo basically you are tinfoil hatting this?don't know, but unlike many of people in this thread i'm not able to believe without any evidence that it was assad
don't know, but unlike many of people in this thread i'm not able to believe without any evidence that it was assad, my guess would be the "rebels"
i'm reading that NOW they're gonna send a team to investigate the chemical attack, now that they've destroyed the "evidence"? yeah makes a lot of sense.
the chemical attack was just staged to give them an excuse for this attack, it's very obvious.
because instead of waiting for an investigation, they did the attack firstYou said it was "obvious" it was staged. How could you come to such a conclusion if you say there's no evidence one way or the other?
We have no idea what actually goes on behind closed doors and mostly only go on what they give to the mediabecause instead of waiting for an investigation, they did the attack first
Russia says hey shot down 71 of the 103 cruise missiles. Is there any discussion or confirmation of this from western media outlets?
So, Trump aside, how does anyone here in this thread who are against the strikes propose how to prevent Assad using chemical weapons against his own people?
consider it what you want, but anyone looking at the whole situation fairly would find it not that clear
not saying it didn't happen, but i wouldn't put it past the supporters of the rebels to plan an attack in order for today's attack to seem justified and legitimateFalse flag conspiracy theories are absolutely disgusting, whether its Sandy Hook or the latest use of chemical weapons by Assad.
How hard is it for some of you to understand that west doesn't allow chemical weapons and will react on it.
This attack wasn't to create more stability. It was to punish those who launch chemical weapons and damage there infrastructure to do so.
It's a warning, that West isn't tolerating it.
All those WW3 and "i hate trump" comments are just sensational garbage that US media thrives on i guess. And have no relevance towards this. Russia will not go to War with Europe and US ever.
because instead of waiting for an investigation, they did the attack first
Just a little correction, it's not really russia. TV here in moscow shows all reports saying that russian anti-air systems werne't even engaged. Shot down missles are reported to be shot down by Syrina's own defense system (probably supplied by russia though).They at least shot down some, in the facebook ivestream you could saw ground fire doing just that
Russia has been calling for an objective investigation but yet vetoed a UN motion for that same thing. The international community wanted it first but was denied because Russia is full of shit and are trying to hide something.i'm reading that NOW they're gonna send a team to investigate the chemical attack, now that they've destroyed the "evidence"? yeah makes a lot of sense.
the chemical attack was just staged to give them an excuse for this attack, it's very obvious.
Yeah, they were horrible.
Just as horrible if they were killed with regular bombs or shot in the head, which happens all the time in Syria.
But because people are killed by drowning with foaming mouths and lungs, it somehow makes their murder even worse?
Dead is dead.
Unless the US kills Assad himself and figures out how to push Russia out of the country, nothing will change and this is all bullshit.
didn't say they hired child actors, it happened. from who, i'm not sureIt's certainly not evidence that they arranged child crisis actors in a scripted video of the aftermath of an attack complete with realistic make-up and cries of pain. Come back to reality.
Places like Europe and the US are just land masses. They are not ever expanding paradises that has the room and resources to support every person that has a hard time in their country. That is why strikes like last night are needed when dictators get out of control. Is better refugee system possible? Sure. I live in Columbus, OH and in some places you would swear that you actually live in Somalia so I think we are doing an OK job with that with a lot of cities all things considered.