Reinhard

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Not much Ubisoft could do it they want the tour mode to be useable by educators in the US due to shitty ESRB ratings. For some reason god forbid there is any nudity in video games even if it's something like a statue, automatically changes the rating to mature, which means it couldn't be used in classrooms.
 

Starlatine

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Lotsa uninformed posters in here.

Discovery Tour is a new, separate mode from the game. Ubisoft wants schools and children to use it for educational purposes, which is why it's also sold standalone on PC.

Art is not censored in real life. Little timmy can open an art book and see statue boobs or even better, see the statue boobs for himself if he see the statue live. there's no reasonable argument to censor it (and so badly) on a videogame, even an educative purposed one. hell, encarta virtual enciclopedias never censored any art on them
 

Bjones

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Ehh it's a game.. not a big deal.

Do nipples really make the statute and history come alive? Lol
 

yap

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Lotsa uninformed posters in here.

Discovery Tour is a new, separate mode from the game. Ubisoft wants schools and children to use it for educational purposes, which is why it's also sold standalone on PC.
Do schoolbooks censor out the naughty bits in these works now? I don't recall them doing that back then.
 

BernardoOne

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In the real world where nude statues can be seen by any persons, sex or age, Ubisoft have taken the liberty to remove those oh-so nasty bits, but will keep all the glorified violence.

Anybody else think this is incredibly dumb? I mean, education sources don't censor them but a mature video games does. Am I missing something here?
There's no glorified violence on the tour mode, literally every enemy in the game has been removed.
Yes. Frankly I'm surprised a European company would do this. Might expect it from American developers. Seems like the whole world has it's priorities mixed up sometimes. In a game where you can kill people gruesomely, the real problem is naked statues. Right
You can't kill a single person in this mode, at all. The naked statues are still in the regular game.
 

Mr Eric

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I would have understood that they censored the porn paintings and graffitis you can see here and there in the game, due to the fact that this is to be used as a teaching tool. But censoring the nude statues that any school kid can see when they go out to the museum or in many streets in Europe ? What ???
 

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but will keep all the glorified violence.
What violence are you talking about? There is no combat in the discovery tour.
This thread is kind of misleading.

If you want a game to be used in classes you'll have to get the proper age rating.
You won't get that with nudity. I think that's kind of sad because we're talking historical art but that does not matter to the ESRB/PEGI, etc.

These statues are not censored in the main game.
 

Deepwater

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people are forgetting how puritanical the United States primary and secondary education system is
 

IIFloodyII

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Oh, it's a school thing, was gonna say they aren't censored in game. Don't think it's necessary, as school books usually keep them, but probably a way to stop kids from getting distracted, because boobs are fucking hilarious to kids in a classroom.
 
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They aren't censored in real life though, nor in education sources.

The ESRB doesn't rate real life or education sources. This censorship is perfectly reasonable in light of ESRB rating requirements and Ubisoft attempting to sell to the widest audience possible. Also, the Discovery Tour is really great. If censoring a few statues puts it in front of more kids than it would otherwise, I'm all for it.
 
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In the real world where nude statues can be seen by any persons, sex or age, Ubisoft have taken the liberty to remove those oh-so nasty bits, but will keep all the glorified violence.

Anybody else think this is incredibly dumb? I mean, education sources don't censor them but a mature video games does. Am I missing something here?
But the glorified violence isn't in the tour mode so ... what's your point?

They probably should've included a K-12 option, but I'm not gonna throw a fit, we all get why they did this, but some people choose get really upset about censorship.
 

Schwinner

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Do schoolbooks censor out the naughty bits in these works now? I don't recall them doing that back then.
I finished high school back in 2015 and they were still there. They don't, at least not where I have went to school in Texas and Florida. I don't think the images are in history books for elementary schools though. Just Middle School and beyond.
 

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Same mentality behind this that has parents buying their kids GTA "as long as they don't go into the strip clubs!!!"

Violence is glorified. Sexuality is repressed. This is both obvious and unfortunate, but given the point of the mode, it seems they wanted to be as "safe" as possible.
 

Hey Please

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Altering history in "tour mode" which is being claimed as a virtual tour of actual ancient Egyptian history, extraneous to the game, is pretty fucking antithetical to its purpose.
 

LegendX48

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Considering you go can go to a college campus and see student sculptures, or any art museum, where this stuff won't be covered up, this is kind of dumb. Then again, working with kids, they're pretty immature with stuff like this. This is still dumb though.
 

Dyergram

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It's silly but at least they did it in a silly way (with the shells) also weird since I'm pretty sure there's a sex scene.
 

BernardoOne

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Exactly. Using the "it's because it's for educational material" is not a good defense, if anything it makes it even worse. :\
It's being marketed as a videogame for education purposes.
If i had to guess, this is likely to keep the PEGI/ESRB rating as low as possible, because no teachers will be buying +16/+18 rated material, especially videogames to teach in class. This mode is available as a standalone product.
 

Yasumi

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The fact it's for educational purposes makes this doubly inane. What the fuck.
 

Gestault

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It sounds silly in the abstract, but it makes sense. Presumably they want this mode as wide-reaching as possible, and they're already trying to minimize the challenge of re-rating an on-the-shelf product through the ESRB/PEGI. Posturing this as some sophomoric violence vs nudity stance is off the mark. Ratings boards don't ignore one type of content because another exists.
 

Ferrs

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I think this censorship is dumb but lol at people already oturaging without knowing this censor doesn't affect the main game.

They probably wanted to cover their asses because they want this mode to be used for education. Again, dumb, but no need to overreact, the game is not censored.

Remember when Ubisoft showed uncensored boobs in its live E3 trailer for Farcry 4?

The game has plenty of uncensored boobs.
 

Toxi

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It's a historical statue. Censoring it to educate people is even worse.
Yeah, that was my thought. There's a difference between doing this in a product meant for entertainment and doing this in a product meant for education.

I guess it's the only way to sell this to a younger audience, but it still rankles.
 

AllBusinessJr

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Exactly. People are reacting like they censored the regular game. Anyone who's played that can tell you there's plenty of nudity and gore in Origins. This is just for educational purposes. I don't see the problem with it. By doing this it can be used from k-12.

So we should cover up Michelangelo's David when teaching children about art? This sort of Puritanical thought process is ridiculous. The art wasn't intended to be sexually gratuitous in nature. I can see removing roving bands of nude women from the game (I never saw such a thing during my playthroigh), but to compromise the historical integrity of the art in the game is stupid. It doesn't compromise the product, but is more of a reflection of our society at-large.
 

DiipuSurotu

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This is a game where you're an assassin and you murder people and shit and yet this is what they want to censor, lmao
 

SuperBanana

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Between this and the ridiculous "we know women weren't taught in classes but lets pretend they do anyway and ignore sexism in history!" shit this mode isn't accurate and not worth educating someone with. It's literally teaching them false history.