There has been some odd takes over the past few weeks, months, lol.
We shall see how true this is when GTA VI launches.
A game that isn't even launching on PC until later.
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A game that isn't even launching on PC until later.
Maybe the console market as a whole isn't growing.
But playstation defintley can grow bigger then last gen.
They had 30% new players who didn't own a ps4
Sony says 30% of active PS5 users never owned a PS4
New financial results from Sony reveal that 30% of all monthly active users (MUAs) on PS5 have no activity on PS4 consoles.
www.gameshub.com
Not only that if xbox does really exit console or loses signifcant marketshare sony can capitilise on that.
The playstation and xbox casual audience interesect, and these people aren't building gaming rigs and mobile/tablets isn't devices best suited for some of the games alot of casuals play on consoles.
Just because Xbox keeps trending down doesn't mean the entire console business is in the mud.
PS5 and Switch are doing fine.
Ps5s problem is that it hasn't had a price drop. At this time last console cycle the ps4 was much much cheaper and the Pro was already out. I imagine it is hard to attract a lot of new people and general fence sitters with an expensive console; the more price sensitive consumers would normally start coming on board due to price drops, but this hasn't happened.
Also GTA 6 is coming.
According to Sony, 30% of PS5 users never had a PS4, so your numbers don't add up. A lot of people haven't upgraded yet. When GTA6 comes out, and the sport games leave last gen behind, more people will be picking up consoles.
I think that it possibly is more of a case that there isn't enough to attract people to jump into a new gen yet. Previous platforms still deliver technically and with titles, current release cadence on new platforms is pretty sluggish, and Switch is about to see the jump to a new platform.
When all is said and done this gen will end with PS5 selling as much as the PS4.
The Switch (between two generations) is on its way to sell 150 million. So the Nintendo ecosystem catched those who left the other platforms. And I'm sure the Switch 2 launch will be gigantic and the new hybrid console will sell as good as the Switch 1.
The only console that is losing people is the Xbox Series.
2025 will be massive for the console industry with GTA6 and Switch 2.
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You also got to take into that there are gamers who no longer play games anymore and may never upgrade.
So while that 30% could be new gamers coming of age to get a console there could also be 30% of older gamers who have given it up as a hobby.
Also sports games as well are in old Gen, specifically FC. Once that changes more people will come over as well.
Yeah there are several games that i can see that cause a massive shift.
Sports(Madden ,NBA,FIFA), COD and GTA.
Those three alongside all the GAAS stuff like fortnite is really making people hold onto last gen consoles.
You can even see it in the spanish charts, fifa on ps4 isn't that far off the ps5 fifa sales.
Then that's a general decline in all of gaming, not just console gaming.
Would not be surprised if it sold more due to the gen potentially being a year longer, and unlikely to be a collapse like from COVID.
This whole "consoles are dying/delcining" nonense i thought we left it back in 2013. Like seriously people been saying how consoles are gonna go tue way of the dodo for over 10 years and it still didnt happen.
More than the PS4? It's possible. But with the Covid/chip shortages at the beginning of this generation and the high price for the PS5 hardware it's possible that it won't grow much. Still impressive to reach the PS4 overall sales after all that.
Context literally right there. The lack of critical thinking is rather impressive.
Betting against things like GTA and Switch 2 is certainly a choice as well.
I haven't been keeping up with the FPS/TPS shooter genre but HD2 feels like the first, really fresh take in a long time (in addition to being a very polished game out the gate).
I'm nearly 30 hours in and still excited to play more!
I'm nearly 30 hours in and still excited to play more!
Crazy results for Helldivers 2. What a game.
For some reason I keep reading this narrative, that somehow Microsoft's inability to sell Xboxes is getting extrapolated to the entire console industry being in dire condition. Meanwhile Switch and Playstation are doing record numbers. Make it make sense.
This industry absolutely has issues with rising cost of AAA game development and we'll likely see things change in that space, but the console hardware business is steady booming.
For some reason I keep reading this narrative, that somehow Microsoft's inability to sell Xboxes is getting extrapolated to the entire console industry being in dire condition. Meanwhile Switch and Playstation are doing record numbers. Make it make sense.
This industry absolutely has issues with rising cost of AAA game development and we'll likely see things change in that space, but the console hardware business is steady booming.
Well because the XB is declining significantly in comparison, the conversation is now being pushed to consoles are dying.
More so that the final year of the PS4 before saw sales collapse, in a way that 2027-2028 should not.
Lol its the wii u all over again. Wii U floppwd hard and people thought it was begining of the end....no the wii u just sucked ha
The Switch Lite was there way of dropping the price by $100. The PS5 on the other hand had its cheapest SKU go UP by $50 last year
Xbox Series is doing much, much better than the Wii U tho. People are weird lol
You should not hurt people like that.
It is about the reactions not the sales.
ofc. which is why i'm saying people are weird. xbox will be fine. ps5 and switch are doing great. consoles will be ok.
I mean it isnt, its a much better console too. Xbox has more of a software issue. Funnily its kind of a opposite wii u in that sense. Strong 3rd party and hardware but weaker first party
it is absolutely doing much better than the wii u lol. it has good first party (ofc not nintendo level), waaaaaaaaaaay better 3rd party support, way better sales. comparing both is fanboy drivel stuff.
Same narrative popped up in 2013...that time it was because of the Wii U.
Funny how long that narrative lasted before the Switch and changed after the Switch.
Seems like most of the time one platform having issues somehow equals the entire industry.
The PlayStation consoles are more expensive in the UK compared to last gen launch aligned, the Xbox consoles are cheaper. Both manufacturers need a price drop though. £480 too high for where we are now in the life cycle.
gotta say though, ps5 is doing extremely well but saying that the high fidelity console biz and high fidelity game biz isn't seeing issues sure is burying your head in the sand. We'll see how the Switch 2 deals with this.
Switch the platform is doing fine but it ignores the fact that in order to get to fine you have to discount how dominant Nintendos handheld position was before they folded both hardware ecosystems into one hybrid one
Even the dark Nintendo times of wiiu and 3DS combined performed as admirably as the switch is as a hybrid for those two market segments. And the 7th gen timeline of DS and Wii crushed them all.
The console business is saturated, it's not an attack on consoles to recognise that and everyone saying wait for gta6 - I hope that game gets more people into console, I hope that works but waiting 11 years for rockstar to inject the console market share with new blood isn't the win you think it is. That's a dire assessment imo
The issue isn't really from a console perspective, but more from a software profit perspective. Which is obviously still bad, but the audience is there at least. Sony just needs to figure out how to grow it or get that existing userbase to spend more money.
People waiting for games to upgrade, in fact one of the biggest games in history, is not dire.
Specifically more money on fp games.
I don't see any evidence for console business failing
i do see evidence for xbox business failing, but that should not be extrapolated to the other console platforms that are actually doing well
i also see some evidence for many publishers struggling in how to manage budgets for their games, but i don't think that's industry-wide and it's also not a fundamentally unsolvable problem
i do see evidence for xbox business failing, but that should not be extrapolated to the other console platforms that are actually doing well
i also see some evidence for many publishers struggling in how to manage budgets for their games, but i don't think that's industry-wide and it's also not a fundamentally unsolvable problem
So then the industry has left behind its innovative phase and is following the movie trend of more heavily relying on blockbuster tentpole avengers movies (is this outdated now? Would avatar be a better analogy?) show signs of health?
I do appreciate you acknowledging one of the strengths of Nintendo is/was their handhelds and what the Switch as a hybrid means for Nintendo.
Because depending on the topic the hybrid nature of the Switch allows for some incredible goal post moving I have never really witnessed before.