Uncle Roger heaps praises on Gordon Ramsay’s egg fried rice (Gordon responds)
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I felt so odd watching the original video as I thought it was very much playing on stereotypes. It's also not my position to be offended on behalf of the asian community though, so I felt it best to just simply not share or promote the video myself since I'm not qualified to have an opinion judging it.
Soon after, almost every single one of my east asian friends was sharing the video and talked about how they related to various very specific things in the video (the scraping of the utensil on the plate was a common thread) and providing a lot of cultural context. I still felt uncomfortable.
I now look at it as a bit like The Chappelle Show where he's making jokes playing on stereotypes within his community for his community - but folks outside the community are watching too and could easily take it on a surface level where the joke is simply 'ha ha, he speaks English differently'.
Unlike Chappelle though, he wouldn't be fuck you rich enough to just stop without consequence if it bothers him.
Soon after, almost every single one of my east asian friends was sharing the video and talked about how they related to various very specific things in the video (the scraping of the utensil on the plate was a common thread) and providing a lot of cultural context. I still felt uncomfortable.
I now look at it as a bit like The Chappelle Show where he's making jokes playing on stereotypes within his community for his community - but folks outside the community are watching too and could easily take it on a surface level where the joke is simply 'ha ha, he speaks English differently'.
Unlike Chappelle though, he wouldn't be fuck you rich enough to just stop without consequence if it bothers him.
Gordon Ramsey is legit a badass chef, unlike the many tv personalities imposter chefs out there.
But his scrambled eggs is bullshit. Who has that cream paste ready to go for scrambled eggs?
But his scrambled eggs is bullshit. Who has that cream paste ready to go for scrambled eggs?
Yeah it's a fine line to tread.
It is not pivotal, really he's just flexing on home cooks.
It is way dialed up, but generally speaking in Singapore (same for Malesya) standard English and the local English are considered different dialect . And have different accent.
Most people can speak both, but they are normally are more comfortable speaking the local version, in this case he is using the local dialect.
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I find his character less grating with the accent than his flirting when he was with Hersha Patel. But that's just me.
I'm Cantonese btw.
I'm Cantonese btw.
This ain't even talent it's just knowledge of the right ingredients.
The talent part was him doing that rice toss. If I did that the rice would be in my hair, on the ground, and the kitchen would be on fire.
You do realize the guy's Chinese/Malaysian/Singaporean and he's putting on the accent from the area he's from, right? He's doing it from a sense of endearment, because nearly 100% of the people there will understand his accent and humor.
I'm from Singapore, and I've spent 2 years in Hong Kong myself. You do meet some people in Hong Kong who speak in the same tone as Uncle Roger when they communicate in English. Uncle Roger's accent is of course more exaggerated
Also, Mee Goreng >>> Nasi Goreng
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I love watching Jaime Oliver get dunked on.
"You hear sizzling, I hear my ancestors crying." fucking lmao
I cringed every time he used fucking OLIVE OIL
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I enjoyed it. I don't know who roger is, but he's definitely doing the hong kong/cantonese english accent. A lot of HK comedies would play up their accent like this
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It only plays for a second or two, but that Pornhub intro music during the "feel up the rice" part killed me.
I'm not too fond of bami, but you are right about the sate and pisang goreng!
I'm torn on Uncle Roger. I get the minstrel show criticism, but I'm also not going to call him out on it. This is coming from a place of complete fucking whiteness and knowing to stay in my lane. I do understand how that kind of persona, although it's elevated his online status, can be dangerous. That's the reason Chappelle quit his show.
Outside of the persona, in regard to the rest of the content, he's actually doing something pretty cool. In this thread, it's been discussed how Ramsay is not just a celebchef, but a bonafide chef who absolutely loves food. In addition, he loves to put a spotlight on cuisine from other cultures and does so with respect. This is what a person in his position should be doing in contrast to others.
I mean, look at that Jamie Oliver video posted above. It's insane what he's trying to pass off as egg fried rice, and people should be aware. A person could make his version but it shouldn't be called egg fried rice and instead some sort of Frankenstein rice dish.
Outside of the persona, in regard to the rest of the content, he's actually doing something pretty cool. In this thread, it's been discussed how Ramsay is not just a celebchef, but a bonafide chef who absolutely loves food. In addition, he loves to put a spotlight on cuisine from other cultures and does so with respect. This is what a person in his position should be doing in contrast to others.
I mean, look at that Jamie Oliver video posted above. It's insane what he's trying to pass off as egg fried rice, and people should be aware. A person could make his version but it shouldn't be called egg fried rice and instead some sort of Frankenstein rice dish.
He's from the old school of you have to yell at your staff if they do anything wrong. I find it just a shitty way of somehow proving how much you care about the food. Thankfully a lot more chefs these days are actually treating their staff well.
Also I find him pretty insufferable on that Gordon, Gino & Fred programme. The programme itself is entertaining but the man tries to make everything into a competition.
I appreciate that it could all be an act to push his persona and I respect his cooking but I just don't like the man.
Also I find him pretty insufferable on that Gordon, Gino & Fred programme. The programme itself is entertaining but the man tries to make everything into a competition.
I appreciate that it could all be an act to push his persona and I respect his cooking but I just don't like the man.
Do you mean creme fraiche? If so, I always have some in my fridge - it's amazing.
You can use greek yogurt or another thick yogurt too - changes the taste profile a little, but still delicious.
He is most of the time, but his carbonara is a travesty - https://www.gordonramsay.com/gr/recipes/gordons-carbonara-in-under-10-minutes/.
Yeah I saw that recently and was like "What in the actual fuck is he doing?!". I mean really, peas, chili, muchrooms, creme fraiche?!
I like Gordon's travel show where he visits different cultures. He is super respectful, genuine interested in the people not just the food, and even a bit self deprecating. A lot of these shows come off talking about the people like they are things and not standing right next to the host.
Wasn't there some controversy last year about his new restaurant using the words 'authentic Asian'?
Gordon Ramsay's new 'authentic Asian' restaurant kicks off cultural appropriation dispute | CNN
Gordon Ramsay's newest London restaurant, "Lucky Cat," has become embroiled in a dispute over alleged cultural appropriation after an Asian food critic accused the celebrity chef of tokenism.
edition.cnn.com
Looks like they removed the wording about it being authentic later on though:
Gordon Ramsay: ‘I love a challenge. It’s in my DNA’
The claws are out for Lucky Cat
He was tutored by Marco Pierre White for a hot minute. Albeit he made him cry when he worked for him and have been rivals since. Readily reheated by Ramsay:
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I'm indonesian and eat plenty of fried rice from street vendor (well, before the pandemic anyway) and I don't remember any street vendor ever put rendang in it, lol. but I guess without rendang, it's hardly any different than other region fried rice. personally, I identify Indonesian style fried rice more with sweet soy sauce or stinky bean than rendang
He is the closest person to Tony Bourdain in terms of love and respect for other cultures and their food. Gordon's show, while not the same as Tony's, gives me the same vibes.
I have to admit that Uncle Rodger makes me laugh and I enjoy his clowning of whites and British cooks, but I do hear people's concerns about him being a minstrel show. I do sort of see it as some like meta-commentary on what whites expect all Asians to sound like, so he clowns people that feel like they have superiority over Asians.
You should try with rendang its quite different. Source: me an Indonesian who sell Nasi Goreng Rendang lol
"So many people say MSG is bad for your body, but Uncle Roger say good food is better than body."
I just found my life coach!
I just found my life coach!
Same here, more of a nasi goreng kambing guy myself.
Oh and put away those stinky beans in the trash can where it belongs. (Btw, sidebar I find it pretty funny how Durian got all the rep for nasty odors internationally while I've heard not a peep about pete or jengkol )
Cool, know any good recommendation in jkt?
He's just basically using the leftover sauce flavoring from the rendang he made earlier in the episode I think. Even made rendang omelette lol
So Asians eat rice with spoon huh? Here in Brazil we use fork + knife (and we eat rice e-v-e-r-y day) but I assume the difference is exactly the presence of the knife (that helps the fork) because we 99% of the time have some piece of beef/chicken so you already need the knife on the table.
It depends on the region. He said that specifically for SE Asia.
No, we use a spoon. Gordon probably just pick fork in hurry or just prefer using fork in general. Tbh its not big a deal for me. Use fork when there is no spoon to eat rice/
Sad toxic masculinity towards vegans. Into the trash bin they both go. Being that pathetically aggressive towards vegans is just stupid & sad in this day & age. You have to be a pretty pathetic chef to be that hostile towards vegan food. You're just showing your own ass & lack of skill in cooking if you think meat/animal products are mandatory in cooking.
I think his stuff goes beyond just asian culture. I grew up in an African household and everything dude said in the first video (minus the MSG) I found super relatable because we cooked rice soooo much growing up.
Wasn't there some controversy last year about his new restaurant using the words 'authentic Asian'?
Gordon Ramsay's new 'authentic Asian' restaurant kicks off cultural appropriation dispute | CNN
Gordon Ramsay's newest London restaurant, "Lucky Cat," has become embroiled in a dispute over alleged cultural appropriation after an Asian food critic accused the celebrity chef of tokenism.
Looks like they removed the wording about it being authentic later on though:
Gordon Ramsay: ‘I love a challenge. It’s in my DNA’
The claws are out for Lucky Catwww.gq-magazine.co.uk
It's funny how Gordon Ramsay the TV show chef is so different from Gordon Ramsay the restaurateur. Even his tv persona is completely different here in the US where he's the raging (but brilliant) asshole while he's less an outright asshole and more sympathetic but tough (and realistic) in UK shows.
Authentic asian bistro always gets me though. It's completely absurd to even claim, especially as a white person, that your food from all over Asia restaurant has some semblance of overall authenticity.
As nice as it is seeing him nail and respect the cuisine of other cultures, it's even better when you see him get humbled for his attempts at relatively basic dishes.
Actually, in the contest between this chef and Gordon, serving to Buddhist monks, the monks preferred Gordon's.